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XBW Rumor: The Next Xbox Has A Wii U Like Tablet Controller With HD Screen, Buttons
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CoffeeExpress
Member
True but screens destroy the ergonomics of a controller. You cant just plomp down 3-6 inch screen onto a controller, even if you design around it, you still have something that is rather large and uncomfortable.
No. You're wrong. The screen has no relation to why handhelds are less comfortable than console controllers. If handhelds were allowed to be thicker with handles and more ergonomic curves, they could be just as comfortable as a console controller, even with a screen in the middle. But then they wouldn't fit in your pocket.
That's an inconvenience to me. Having to look down away from the screen to see things I normally see on a large TV isn't a benefit.
CoffeeExpress
Member
I used handhelds only as an example, I wasn't talking about them there.
Controllers with large screens (and in the case of WiiU) would simply be too big to be comfortable.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Do you think Microsoft and AMD will build a GPU with another EDRAM daughter die with at least 1 TeraBits/sec bandwidth?
Note that the XB360 has an EDRAM daughter die with 256/GigaBits/sec bandwidth. So 1 TeraBits/sec would only be 4x the current XB360.
Note that the XB360 has an EDRAM daughter die with 256/GigaBits/sec bandwidth. So 1 TeraBits/sec would only be 4x the current XB360.
Not likely, the 360 had edram as a way to get around the bandwidth limitations to the GDDR 3. Next Gen systems likely won't be using memory that slow, making edram less necessary.
They work fine for all the games I used them with, so I don't have any problem with the Wii U using them.
How about not having to pause your game to bring up an inventory, map or game options because its always there on the controller?
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I've been seeing people mention ergonomics.
A standard 360 controller might fit your hands, but your hands are in a position holding it that is far from natural. Your hands normally are far apart. Standard controllers keep your hands close together.
This is not natural. That's why hands cramp after extended play times.
A standard 360 controller might fit your hands, but your hands are in a position holding it that is far from natural. Your hands normally are far apart. Standard controllers keep your hands close together.
This is not natural. That's why hands cramp after extended play times.
True. I love how the Wii set up works...my hands are always pretty spread apart.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
That is a very good point. From all the Wii U controller impressions I've read, they cited this as one of the reasons the controller was comfy. The second good thing about it was the slide pads that so many here hate, because they allowed for both thumbs to rest on them at the same height.
Finally, some reason.
The seemingly standard assumption that the Wii U tablet is less comfortable than a standard controller flies in the face of common sense.
Indeed, it looks like we're heading directly into a Kinect-centric, video controller era. Microsoft has been admirably transparent about where they want to go in the future as far as their long-term goals and their enthusiasm for motion controls are concerned.
bigtroyjon
Member
lol, I hate to break it to you but hand cramps have nothing to do with the position of your hands in space. The human body has joints in the shoulders, elbows and wrists which determine where your hands are.
The only thing that will cause hand cramps are actions in which the hands are directly responsible for, like gripping something.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Hows about gripping something in a strange position for hours?
Honestly I just get creeped out by old school controllers because I'm holding the controller like I'm getting ready to fuck something and the only thing that small is a baby, and I don't wanna fuck no babbies.
You're going to look away from the screen while the game's running, potentially having something happen while you're not looking?
Also what would be the point? Whether you're looking down to check something or doing it through a pause menu, you're still not playing the game. Therefore I repeat...it's a gimmick.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
If you're going to talk about it being a gimmick then what you're currently saying isn't the gimmick. That'd actually be nice to look down touch a weapon icon, and have it switch.
No the gimmick would be something closer to the ninja stars thing they showed off last E3. Brushing your hand on the screen to throw the stars at the screen. That's gimmicky.
Holding a specific position, while seemingly an inaction, requires the use of certain muscles and muscle groups.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
And big congrats to Microsoft if they do indeed proceed with this! The more I read think about it, the more excited I get! =)
No that sounds like a gimmick to me. Touching a weapon icon to switch doesn't add anything to the game that I can't already do through a pause menu without worrying about something coming up and hitting me while I'm doing it.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Maybe it's different for people that game on DS and 3DS consistently. I've never had a problem with it, and that's in games a hell of a lot faster paced than a Skyrim. Tilting your head by a few degrees more.
Out of all the gimmicky things with the controller, this application seems far and away not. It seems helpful to me.
I just want a regular XBox controller that splits in the middle so I can separate my hands.
That would work wonderfully with Kinect.
And if need be have a screen attachment that can bind the two halves together, that actually has a wire that goes to the console so it doesn't require too much additional horsepower and acts as a charger for the two halves.
That would work wonderfully with Kinect.
And if need be have a screen attachment that can bind the two halves together, that actually has a wire that goes to the console so it doesn't require too much additional horsepower and acts as a charger for the two halves.
bigtroyjon
Member
What kind of weird fucking babies are you around that are as small as a controller?
let me guess, you are going to say monkey babies
evil solrac v3.0
Member
hey now, don't..... you know.... so how small are we talking about?
on topic, all next gen consoles will have a "gimmick" controller. the trick is to pick which is one is less intrusive to regular games.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It even has the stubby little legs you sick fucks!
Isn't that what happens in "real life," though? You need to look down at something and/or read something before you know how to proceed. Maybe you should find a safe place in-game, before you can divert your attention to something you're carrying? Seems pretty realistic to me.
It would indeed add to the sense of realism, which is quite admirable.
"Umm.. hold-on a sec, Mr Zombie. I need to pause to look at my map here. Ah.. mmm.. okay, now I see where I missed my turn. It was two rooms back and to my right! Silly me! Okay then.. unpause! Now, what business did you have with me, Mr Zombie? I'm ready to proceed!"
Yeah no thanks I'll take a pause screen like 99% of every game ever made. Dark Souls if anything reminded me how much I hate not having one for when the phone rings or whatever. The one thing it didn't make me do is think "realism".
Nizz
Member
I'd be pretty sad if the next Playstation didn't come with a Dualshock 4 as standard.
Hahahaha, I love you you hairy little bastard.
That's my nickname for his...nevermind.