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mosaic 11-30-2007 02:01 AM

Penny Arcade 11/30/2007 Jeff Gerstmann fired from Gamespot, allegedly for K&L review
 
So, tomorrow's comic was put up early:

[URL="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic"]http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic[/URL]

[IMG]http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20071129.jpg[/IMG]

And, umm, yeah... what happened in the last panel did happen... yesterday.

[QUOTE=acklame][B]Summary of latest development:
[/B]
- CNET issues totally predictable non-denial-denial statements trying to dodge their way out of this
- Josh Larson, the guy in charge who replaced Greg K when he left, is a marketing guy and he's in charge of the editorial content
- Previous article by Josh Larson: [url]http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/9509.asp[/url]
- an anonymous account by a possible gamespot editor of this whole debacle: [url]http://valleywag.com/tech/jeff-gerstmann/gamespot-editor--on-fired-reviewer-328775.php[/url]
- Alex N, a gamespot editor, posted this on his blog [url]http://www.gamespot.c-om/users/AlexN/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25234567[/url]
- Kevin V, another gamespot editor's blog post: [url]http://www.gamespot.c-om/users/Kevin-V/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25234747[/url][/QUOTE]

Grecco 11-30-2007 02:02 AM

Gertsmann got fired? What?

CoG 11-30-2007 02:02 AM

Gertsman got canned?

Kabuki Quantum Lover 11-30-2007 02:03 AM

Jeff was fired?

OatmealMu 11-30-2007 02:03 AM

Eh?

BastardSamurai 11-30-2007 02:04 AM

Buh?

Vark 11-30-2007 02:04 AM

Seriously?

The Orange 11-30-2007 02:04 AM

You guys are all puzzled by the last panel, I don't even get the middle one.

polyh3dron 11-30-2007 02:05 AM

Girthmann got fired for giving KANE & LYNCH a bad review?? After all the bullshit reviews it was finally this one that killed him then.. life is funny sometimes..

Oh yeah, 8.8 or something.

Christoff Yurievich 11-30-2007 02:05 AM

[IMG]http://i10.************/6sbceub.jpg[/IMG]

Costanza 11-30-2007 02:05 AM

hmm?

lastendconductor 11-30-2007 02:05 AM

Is that true?

Vark 11-30-2007 02:05 AM

[QUOTE=The Orange]You guys are all puzzled by the last panel, I don't even get the middle one.[/QUOTE]


Talking about the promotions and advertisements on the site. 'Sponsored events'.

Hellsing321 11-30-2007 02:06 AM

Is this for real!? Did they finally give into the Nintendo fans demands?

FartOfWar 11-30-2007 02:06 AM

8-10 scale, bitches. Enthusiasts ask for it more than the publishers.

Rlan 11-30-2007 02:07 AM

Gertsmaaaaaaan!!

He's been there for forever, hasn't he? He fits in very well with their whole group of people if the podcast is anything to go by.

explodet 11-30-2007 02:07 AM

[url]http://www.gamespot.com/misc/editorial.html[/url]

If he did get fired, they'd better get off their duffs and update this page.

DeathbyVolcano 11-30-2007 02:07 AM

Sucks for him, but he'll probably get a job somewhere else. He shouldn't be worried.

But Nintendo fans everywhere are cheering.

BastardSamurai 11-30-2007 02:07 AM

[QUOTE=FartOfWar]8-10 scale, bitches. Enthusiasts ask for it more than the publishers.[/QUOTE]

Wait, 8-10 is the new 7-9?!?!?!

ohmycar 11-30-2007 02:07 AM

[QUOTE=The Orange]You guys are all puzzled by the last panel, I don't even get the middle one.[/QUOTE]

There are huge ads for Kane & Lynch on GameSpot. Jeff gave Kane & Lynch a 6...put two and two together and so on and so forth.

jetjevons 11-30-2007 02:07 AM

Confirmation people? Was he fired?

lastendconductor 11-30-2007 02:08 AM

[QUOTE=BastardSamurai]Wait, 8-10 is the new 7-9?!?!?![/QUOTE]
yes

mosaic 11-30-2007 02:08 AM

I only have second-hand information, so I don't feel comfortable relating any of it.

But, did y'all notice there was no "On The Spot" show today? And no reviews went up?

The staff are, to put it mildly, skittish.

calder 11-30-2007 02:08 AM

I'm a little alarmed that anyone could read a web comic as a literal recounting of actual events. Stay away the Bible kids!

NichM 11-30-2007 02:09 AM

I hope no one's cheering if this is true, Nintendo fan or no. There's supposed to be an iron wall between advertising and editorial, and if it's been breached, that's a really sad thing both for Gerstmann personally and GameSpot professionally.

Femmeworth 11-30-2007 02:09 AM

[IMG]http://i11.************/8fee9le.gif[/IMG]

Jokes aside, it's sad to see he lost his job. :(

rs7k 11-30-2007 02:10 AM

[QUOTE=NichM]I hope no one's cheering if this is true, Nintendo fan or no. There's supposed to be an iron wall between advertising and editorial, and if it's been breached, that's a really sad thing both for Gerstmann personally and GameSpot professionally.[/QUOTE]

That's what I was gonna say. If it's true, then it'll be hard to consider Gamespot reviews as seriously as I used to.

I don't believe in review sites having biases in general, so whenever there's bitching about scores, I usually laugh at it.

TTG 11-30-2007 02:10 AM

That's the first genuinly funny PA comic I've seen. :lol

jetjevons 11-30-2007 02:10 AM

[QUOTE=NichM]I hope no one's cheering if this is true, Nintendo fan or no. There's supposed to be an iron wall between advertising and editorial, and if it's been breached, that's a really sad thing both for Gerstmann personally and GameSpot professionally.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention it'll give the conspiracy nuts material for the forever.

tanod 11-30-2007 02:11 AM

WHAT?! I was wondering why he wasn't on the Hotspot. Nobody said anything about him either.

TurtleSnatcher 11-30-2007 02:11 AM

I think they are just teasing the whole fact that the sites smothered in Kane & Lynch ads etc, yet it got a meh review from the site itself.

lastendconductor 11-30-2007 02:11 AM

[QUOTE=calder]I'm a little alarmed that anyone could read a web comic as a literal recounting of actual events. Stay away the Bible kids![/QUOTE]
Well, the OP stated the last panel is actually true.

FFChris 11-30-2007 02:11 AM

[QUOTE=calder]I'm a little alarmed that anyone could read a web comic as a literal recounting of actual events. Stay away the Bible kids![/QUOTE]

Penny Arcade, the new source of game journalist news!

[QUOTE=DKnight]Well, the OP stated the last panel is actually true.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I stand corrected. Giving a mediocre game a mediocre review is grounds for being fired now?

Rockman 11-30-2007 02:11 AM

The beginning of the end for Gamespot if true.

Bildi 11-30-2007 02:12 AM

[QUOTE=The Orange]You guys are all puzzled by the last panel, I don't even get the middle one.[/QUOTE]
Indeed.

[QUOTE=Penny Arcade]Did you happen to see that our readers can skin the entire site with Kane, Lynch, or with Kane and Lynch?[/QUOTE]
I have NO idea what that means. NO IDEA. Or the sentence after that actually.

pilonv1 11-30-2007 02:12 AM

[QUOTE=TurtleSnatcher]I think they are just teasing the whole fact that the sites smothered in Kane & Lynch ads etc, yet it got a meh review from the site itself.[/QUOTE]

Win.

duckroll 11-30-2007 02:12 AM

wow

Ganondorfo 11-30-2007 02:12 AM

But kane and lynch is a 6.0/10 game, he is right.

So everyone who gave kane and lynch a bad review must be fired?????

radioheadrule83 11-30-2007 02:13 AM

I'm certainly not cheering even though I seemed to disagree with him a lot.

I'll be interested to hear what happened. If he is fired wow, PA, fingers on the pulse at all times..

Beer Monkey 11-30-2007 02:13 AM

If Gerstmann got fired for any content, I disagree with the decision, regardless of how GAF feels about him. I think he is an asset, even though I sometimes disagree wtih him strongly.

Gary Whitta 11-30-2007 02:13 AM

This is an outrage if true. Especially since his score seems largely "correct" (mid-60s on metacritic)

Tyrone Slothrop 11-30-2007 02:14 AM

erm

if he let go i doubt it had anything to do with that score. i like how everybodys so paranoid about this sort of thing. i understand there're moneyhats abound but its dramatized

skip 11-30-2007 02:14 AM

this is horrible. absolutely horrible.

Ganondorfo 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

They should fire some of the guys who worked on kane and lynch, that would be justice:D

Salmonax 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

Can't be true. Must be them poking fun at... something.

Dante 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

To put it mildly the state of video game reviews is a total mess right now.

rollingstart 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

if this is true, my Gerstmann rookie card will be worth thousands!

gwiz210 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

Just for ole' times sake...
[IMG]http://i11.************/8g58utj.jpg[/IMG]

BrokenSymmetry 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

[QUOTE=Bildi]Indeed.


I have NO idea what that means. NO IDEA. Or the sentence after that actually.[/QUOTE]

On the home page of Gamespot, there's an ad for Kane & Lynch, with "click a character to skin the site". With this, gamespot visitors can skin the site with either Kane, Lynch, or both.

Rody 11-30-2007 02:15 AM

If he did get fired, I doubt it was because of the review. PA is just joking about the coincidence, maybe?


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