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king zell 01-27-2010 12:42 PM

Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 is confirmed.
 
[url]http://www.dqm-j.com/index.php[/url]

the next million seller from SE after DQ6?

Chris1964 01-27-2010 12:46 PM

I knew it:D

SilverLunar 01-27-2010 12:54 PM

Sweet! never finished the first one but i liked it.

Khrno 01-27-2010 12:59 PM

Come on SE, keep announcing new DS titles for FY10.

Kifimbo 01-27-2010 01:03 PM

Is there any other clues beside the number 2 on the front page ?

JustAnotherOtaku 01-27-2010 01:05 PM

Great news if true! Enjoyed the first one a lot and would definitely buy a sequel.

Jet Grind Radio! 01-27-2010 01:06 PM

Come on. Let SE cast a spell on this one.

Johnlenham 01-27-2010 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=JustAnotherOtaku]Great news if true! Enjoyed the first one a lot and would definitely buy a sequel.[/QUOTE]

This.

toythatkills 01-27-2010 01:09 PM

Thought the first one was OK, fun enough as a stop-gap before other games, but I certainly wouldn't play a sequel ahead of Pokémon SoulSilver or DQIX.

Unless it's massively better.

RBH 01-27-2010 01:15 PM

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7KwJzPEY10[/url]


[i]"I CAN CAHST A SPEHLLL!!!"[/i]

Segata Sanshiro 01-27-2010 02:12 PM

Hrm, more DQM is yay, but I don't like Joker well enough to take another ride with him. Another main character please?

Mejilan 01-27-2010 02:17 PM

Yeah, hopefully they get rid of the stupider aspects to it, such as the jet ski and vending machines. I like my DQs to be a little more... traditional, I suppose. And yeah, get rid of the main character. Awful design.

Gravijah 01-27-2010 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=SilverLunar]Sweet! never finished the first one but i liked it.[/QUOTE]

Yep, same here.

SilverLunar 01-27-2010 02:21 PM

make the main character Solitaire.

Drkirby 01-27-2010 02:41 PM

I haven't even opened the first one yet.

Totakeke 01-27-2010 02:44 PM

Hell yeah! Breeding chains that span tens of generations long here I come!

faridmon 01-27-2010 02:44 PM

liked the first one untill the moon and the sun dungeons which was annoying. so i stopped playing it.

hopefully tjhe second one becomes less about grining and more about adventures and other stuff.

Mr. Pointy 01-27-2010 02:46 PM

They'd be dumb not to do a sequel.

Also, Horii's gotta make some of his money back when DQX bombs.

Drkirby 01-27-2010 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pointy]They'd be dumb not to do a sequel.

Also, Horii's gotta make some of his money back when DQX bombs.[/QUOTE]
I expected anther DQ Monsters game, but not a Joker Sequel.

mugurumakensei 01-27-2010 02:55 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pointy]They'd be dumb not to do a sequel.

Also, Horii's gotta make some of his money back when DQX bombs.[/QUOTE]

The likelihood of DQX bombing is likely a negative value.

Mr. Pointy 01-27-2010 02:59 PM

[QUOTE=Drkirby]I expected anther DQ Monsters game, but not a Joker Sequel.[/QUOTE]
Joker itself did 1.4 million. I wouldn't know if the game had any negative buzz from players in Japan, but it's probably a safer bet to follow it up rather than do an unrelated Monsters title.

Besides, DQX is years away and what other million sellers do Square Enix have in Japan other than DQVIr in between then?

Versus XIII? Please.

jj984jj 01-27-2010 03:01 PM

But I wanted Slime Mori Mori 3 with a better adventure and Wi-Fi Tank Battles. :(

Mr. Pointy 01-27-2010 03:05 PM

^
So did I, man. So did I.

john tv 01-27-2010 03:05 PM

Are we sure that 2 hasn't been there for a while?

neo2046 01-27-2010 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=jj984jj]But I wanted Slime Mori Mori 3 with a better adventure and Wi-Fi Tank Battles. :([/QUOTE]
same here :(

Segata Sanshiro 01-27-2010 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=jj984jj]But I wanted Slime Mori Mori 3 with a better adventure and Wi-Fi Tank Battles. :([/QUOTE]
Ehn, Level 5 working on a sequel to DQMJ probably wouldn't interfere with TOSE doing another Slime Morimori if Enix wanted it to happen.

larvi 01-27-2010 03:08 PM

Great, I've been waiting for this to be announced. I played the heck out of the 1st.

Mr. Pointy 01-27-2010 03:10 PM

I kinda want a sequel to Swords, but done as an action RPG version of WSR's Swordplay Showdown.

Spiegel 01-27-2010 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=Segata Sanshiro]Ehn, Level 5 working on a sequel to DQMJ probably wouldn't interfere with TOSE doing another Slime Morimori if Enix wanted it to happen.[/QUOTE]

Uh?

TOSE made DQMJ, not L5

john tv 01-27-2010 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=Segata Sanshiro]Ehn, Level 5 working on a sequel to DQMJ probably wouldn't interfere with TOSE doing another Slime Morimori if Enix wanted it to happen.[/QUOTE]
Level-5 didn't make DQMJ, but yeah, it'd be different teams making those two anyway, I'm guessing. Rocket Slime didn't exactly fly off the shelves tho, even in Japan, right?

Segata Sanshiro 01-27-2010 03:13 PM

hahaha god I don't know where my brain is.

Ah well, point still stands. If Enix wanted both, we'd have both. Morimori 2 did indeed underperform in Japan. 300k isn't anything to sneeze at, though. I'm sure the series will get picked up again at some point.

Drkirby 01-27-2010 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=jj984jj]But I wanted Slime Mori Mori 3 with a better adventure and Wi-Fi Tank Battles. :([/QUOTE]
I do too. Come on SE, do it. [i]Do it![/i]

Segata Sanshiro 01-27-2010 03:20 PM

I checked Morimori's numbers... it only sold 350k. I guess it's hard to say if Rocket Slime let them down without knowing their expectations.

Pureauthor 01-27-2010 03:37 PM

I'm excited by this new!

Excitement! Yay!

BooJoh 01-27-2010 03:38 PM

Am I missing something? All I see is a site for the first DQMJ that hasn't been updated in several years.

Kishgal 01-27-2010 03:45 PM

I've been wondering whem it would show up. Horii talked about a sequel way back before DQ4 came out.

GaussTek 01-27-2010 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=BooJoh]Am I missing something? All I see is a site for the first DQMJ that hasn't been updated in several years.[/QUOTE]

Same here?? I don't get it. Sorry if it's too obvious or something.

Sacha 01-27-2010 03:49 PM

[QUOTE=GaussTek]Same here?? I don't get it. Sorry if it's too obvious or something.[/QUOTE]

The 2 doesn't show up for me either, but [url]http://i48.************/25hiveh.jpg[/url]

GhaleonQ 01-27-2010 03:51 PM

[QUOTE=neo2046]same here :([/QUOTE]

!

GaussTek 01-27-2010 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=Sacha]The 2 doesn't show up for me either, but [url]http://i48.************/25hiveh.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]

Ahh, thanks for the pic. Weird I can't see it (neither with Firefox/IE)

thebagofsand 01-27-2010 04:33 PM

They removed it.

Baki 01-27-2010 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pointy]Joker itself did 1.4 million. I wouldn't know if the game had any negative buzz from players in Japan, but it's probably a safer bet to follow it up rather than do an unrelated Monsters title.

Besides, DQX is years away and what other million sellers do Square Enix have in Japan other than DQVIr in between then?

Versus XIII? Please.[/QUOTE]Mark my words. Versus XIII will sell 1M in Japan.

@the guy who said DQX will bomb:

:lol :lol :lol

gamergirly 01-27-2010 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pointy]They'd be dumb not to do a sequel.

Also, Horii's gotta make some of his money back when DQX bombs.[/QUOTE]

Why in the world would DQX bomb? It's one of the most popular franchises in Japan. Even if it does bomb, it wont bomb [there]

neo2046 01-27-2010 05:38 PM

DQM Joker 2 for DS
the scan is out

slaughterking 01-27-2010 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=neo2046]DQM Joker 2 for DS
the scan is out[/QUOTE]
Oh, so it [I]is[/I] real. Nice, I guess. I was pretty disappointent with the first DS Monsters, though. I hope they fix some of the issues I had with it.

jaundicejuice 01-27-2010 05:49 PM

I invested around 60 hours in Joker, not the most remarkable of the Dragon Quest games but it was a fairly enjoyable distraction. I'll grab the sequel.

Add me to the list of people pining for a sequel to Rocket Slime.

ScrabbleDude 01-27-2010 06:04 PM

Awesome. I enjoyed the first game.

wsutton1 01-27-2010 06:25 PM

Enjoyed the first. Hope the overworld is more open, like DQ8, but that may be going against current trend.

Cygnus X-1 01-27-2010 06:30 PM

Almost surprised that it is announced so late.

Pureauthor 01-27-2010 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=Cygnus X-1]Almost surprised that it is announced so late.[/QUOTE]

The DS's last hurrah?

Bebpo 01-27-2010 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=neo2046]DQM Joker 2 for DS
the scan is out[/QUOTE]

What else is in famitsu this week?

Kishgal 01-27-2010 06:54 PM

Hey, no more punky hero. Thumbs up. Looks like the menus have a nicer design, too. Didn't care for all of the pinstripes in the first one.

Also, real-time wi-fi battles this time? Very, very nice.

DevelopmentArrested 01-27-2010 06:57 PM

PIPE DOWN WILL YA I DONT THINK A SPELL'S GOING TO WORK ON THIS ONE!!!!!

jj984jj 01-27-2010 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=Pureauthor]S-E's last hurrah on the DS?[/QUOTE]
Fixed, and I think it's likely.

Pureauthor 01-27-2010 07:00 PM

Given that they're calling it DQMJ2, I wonder if the Incarnus will show up again...

Hobbun 01-27-2010 07:01 PM

I hope the game still remains turn-based. If so, I am all over it when it (if) hits NA.

Kishgal 01-27-2010 07:01 PM

I think the actual real fights over WFC (like Pokemon) will make me go ahead and get this. I was really sad to find that DQMJ didn't have that feature. Glad to see it's in this one.

[quote=Hobbun]I hope the game still remains turn-based. If so, I am all over it when it (if) hits NA.[/quote]
It is.

Hobbun 01-27-2010 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=Kishgal]
It is.[/QUOTE]

Ok, thanks.

I can't access the link, blocked at work.

Sagitario 01-27-2010 07:10 PM

Where is my Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime sequel? >:(

[spoiler]I still have the first Joker sealed :P[/spoiler]

farnham 01-27-2010 07:13 PM

Hellz Yeah!

Princess Skittles 01-27-2010 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=Farore]Where is my Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime sequel? >:([/QUOTE]Seconded!

Boney 01-27-2010 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=jj984jj]Fixed, and I think it's likely.[/QUOTE]

Nah, they'll announce FF Vr. You'll see.

JoshuaJSlone 01-27-2010 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pointy]Joker itself did 1.4 million. I wouldn't know if the game had any negative buzz from players in Japan, but it's probably a safer bet to follow it up rather than do an unrelated Monsters title.[/QUOTE]
Ehh. Joker is the fourth unrelated DQM title and has sold the [i]third[/i] most, so I don't think a direct sequel is an obvious guess.

-WindYoshi- 01-27-2010 07:47 PM

YES!
The first one was a great experience.

Zhengi 01-27-2010 07:50 PM

Win! Now we also need a US release...

...and also a confirmation for Rocket Slime 2!

jj984jj 01-27-2010 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Boney]Nah, they'll announce FF Vr. You'll see.[/QUOTE]
As unlikely as I think it is at this point, they could. I don't think it would sell as well as FFIV though, much less FFIII, so this will be the last million seller for S-E on the DS.

Gospel 01-27-2010 07:53 PM

I hated the first one so hopefully they fix all the problems that it had.

A Link to the Snitch 01-27-2010 07:54 PM

They might as well wait until DS2 for FFV and VI.

Boney 01-27-2010 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=jj984jj]As unlikely as I think it is at this point, they could. I don't think it would sell as well as FFIV though so this will be the last million seller for S-E on the DS.[/QUOTE]

On that I agree. By the way, how many million sellers did SE have on the DS?

Dissonance 01-27-2010 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pointy]They'd be dumb not to do a sequel.

Also, Horii's gotta make some of his money back [B]when DQX bombs.[/B][/QUOTE]
What the...:lol

thestopsign 01-27-2010 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=Boney]On that I agree. By the way, how many million sellers did SE have on the DS?[/QUOTE]

Five so far.

Dragon Quest IX
Dragon Quest V
Dragon Quest IV
Dragon Quest Monster: Joker
Final Fantasy III

This is just in Japan, not sure about WW totals.

justchris 01-27-2010 08:15 PM

I'd like to put in another vote for a new Rocket Slime/Slime Mori Mori. Brilliant game.

jaundicejuice 01-27-2010 08:24 PM

Why are some of you so quick to dub this Square-Enix's last hurrah on for the DS?

farnham 01-27-2010 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=jaundicejuice]Why are some of you so quick to dub this Square-Enix's last hurrah on for the DS?[/QUOTE]
this. square enix has generated the most money on the ds this gen. why would they abandon their main source of profit..

thestopsign 01-27-2010 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=jaundicejuice]Why are some of you so quick to dub this Square-Enix's last hurrah on for the DS?[/QUOTE]

Including this, they only have 3 games announced for the DS to my knowledge (for this year): Dragon Quest VI, Lufia 2 Remake, and Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2. It seems like most of their support has switched over to the PSP and the consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a bunch more announcements coming for the DS, but for now, there isn't much.

A Link to the Snitch 01-27-2010 08:41 PM

[QUOTE=thestopsign]Five so far.

Dragon Quest IX
Dragon Quest V
Dragon Quest IV
Dragon Quest Monster: Joker
Final Fantasy III

This is just in Japan, not sure about WW totals.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty certain that Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days broke 1 million WW, and I'm guessing that Final Fantasy XII RW came close.

[QUOTE=thestopsign]Including this, they only have 3 games announced for the DS to my knowledge (for this year): Dragon Quest VI, Lufia 2 Remake, and Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2. It seems like most of their support has switched over to the PSP and the consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a bunch more announcements coming for the DS, but for now, there isn't much.[/QUOTE]

Eh? I just think that they're balancing out their support. They just decided that PSP was ideal for certain games, I reckon.

RPGManiac 01-27-2010 10:09 PM

I remember playing for 15 hours in the first only to accidently delete that file and never picked it up again.

toythatkills 01-27-2010 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=RPGManiac]I remember playing for 15 hours in the first only to accidently delete that file and never picked it up again.[/QUOTE]
Was that not long enough to finish it?

MikeE21286 01-27-2010 10:15 PM

[QUOTE=A Link to the Snitch]I'm pretty certain that Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days broke 1 million WW, and I'm guessing that Final Fantasy XII RW came close.


[/QUOTE]

what about Final Fantasy IV...not so much?

KuwabaraTheMan 01-27-2010 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=jj984jj]As unlikely as I think it is at this point, they could. I don't think it would sell as well as FFIV though, much less FFIII, so this will be the last million seller for S-E on the DS.[/QUOTE]

It probably wouldn't sell a million in Japan, but I'm sure it would worldwide. I think it would probably do around the same numbers as IV, though. It's been longer since V Advance compared to the gap between the two releases of IV on Nintendo handhelds.

[QUOTE=MikeE21286]what about Final Fantasy IV...not so much?[/QUOTE]

It did about 900,000 between the US and Japan (based on last known LTDs), and I'm sure it must have sold enough in Europe to put it over a million.

Nils 01-27-2010 10:29 PM

Semi-off topic, but I bought the first one for cheap but only played it for like 40 minutes. I turned it off mostly because I thought the capture system and by extension the battle system was almost completely random, thus lacking any depth. Was that first impression wrong or is that a generally accepted weakness of the game?

toythatkills 01-27-2010 10:37 PM

What do you mean when you say you found the battle system random? I don't understand why you'd feel that, unless you've never played a turn-based game before.

PataHikari 01-27-2010 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=Nils]Semi-off topic, but I bought the first one for cheap but only played it for like 40 minutes. I turned it off mostly because I thought the capture system and by extension the battle system was almost completely random, thus lacking any depth. Was that first impression wrong or is that a generally accepted weakness of the game?[/QUOTE]

Huh? It isn't random in the slightest. It's very easy to figure out how it works

When you try and "Capture" a monster, your party does an "attack" on the monster that fills up a meter. The higher the meter, the more likely the success is. The stronger your monsters, the more the "attack" does. And yes, tension [b]does[/b] effect this as well.

larvi 01-27-2010 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=Nils]Semi-off topic, but I bought the first one for cheap but only played it for like 40 minutes. I turned it off mostly because I thought the capture system and by extension the battle system was almost completely random, thus lacking any depth. Was that first impression wrong or is that a generally accepted weakness of the game?[/QUOTE]


It's all about the monsters, the depth comes from breeding your monsters to get higher ranked ones and better stats and skills. And then choosing what monsters to have on your team to beat the bosses. A lot of the play for me was working out a team/strategy to take on the wifi teams. Here's a decent FAQ that gives you an idea of the depth of what's involved in doing that:

[url]http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/933956/52164[/url]

farnham 01-27-2010 11:02 PM

the main character seriously reminds me of the blue dragon protagonist (shu was it..)

bttb 02-01-2010 04:19 AM

.

jj984jj 02-01-2010 04:38 AM

I didn't expect it to be so soon.

duckroll 02-01-2010 04:40 AM

It should be noted the press release also confirms it will support wireless and wifi online play, and it mentions that battles with other players are in real time. Whatever that means. The press release also notes that the game will only have a single save slot, and that while it supports 8 players multiplayer everyone will need their own cart to play, etc.

Jonnyram 02-01-2010 04:41 AM

1-8 players? o_O

Mr. Pointy 02-01-2010 04:42 AM

Golden Weekaton.

Kishgal 02-01-2010 04:43 AM

[quote=duckroll]It should be noted the press release also confirms it will support wireless and wifi online play, and it mentions that battles with other players are in real time. Whatever that means. The press release also notes that the game will only have a single save slot, and that while it supports 8 players multiplayer everyone will need their own cart to play, etc.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Jonnyram]1-8 players? o_O[/QUOTE]
It has real wireless battles, like Pokemon, now. In DQMJ1, all you did was upload your team, and then you'd be able to download another player's team, and you'd fight it controlled by the CPU.

HK-47 02-01-2010 04:45 AM

[QUOTE=thestopsign]Five so far.

Dragon Quest IX
Dragon Quest V
Dragon Quest IV
Dragon Quest Monster: Joker
Final Fantasy III

This is just in Japan, not sure about WW totals.[/QUOTE]

KH DS, FFXII RW, and FFIV. CT probably fell short, though it might have done it if not for the SE tax.

HK-47 02-01-2010 04:47 AM

[QUOTE=duckroll]It should be noted the press release also confirms it will support wireless and wifi online play, and it mentions that battles with other players are in real time. Whatever that means. The press release also notes that the game will only have a single save slot, and that while it supports 8 players multiplayer everyone will need their own cart to play, etc.[/QUOTE]

I heavily dislike RPG that go single save on DS.

ivysaur12 02-01-2010 04:48 AM

[QUOTE=Bebpo]What else is in famitsu this week?[/QUOTE]

This is my question.

Kishgal 02-01-2010 04:51 AM

[QUOTE=ivysaur12]This is my question.[/QUOTE]
I saw scans for Rooms (Wii/DS adventure game), Monster Hunter Frontier Online 360, Star Ocean 4 International, REGINLEV, Splinter Cell Conviction, Shadow Tower, Yakuza 4, God Eater, Hack//Link, and Etrian Odyssey 3. I never saw the ToC, though.

ethelred 02-01-2010 04:58 AM

I'm not really interested. But I agree with those saying they'd be totally down with a new Slime game.

HK-47 02-01-2010 05:49 AM

Tank battle where addictive. Some of the best moments I've had on the DS were tank battles. I'd love wireless/wifi tank battles.

SalsaShark 02-01-2010 05:52 AM

good news i guess ? first one is on my backlog

Bebpo 02-01-2010 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=ethelred]I'm not really interested. But I agree with those saying they'd be totally down with a new Slime game.[/QUOTE]

I never really played more than an hour or two of Joker. What makes a DQM game different from a mainline DQ game?

grandjedi6 02-01-2010 06:51 AM

[QUOTE=Bebpo]I never really played more than an hour or two of Joker. What makes a DQM game different from a mainline DQ game?[/QUOTE]
Its Pokemon*

*Yes I know about DQV but this example is more apt.


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