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enzo_gt 07-19-2011 02:42 AM

WOW HOLY SHIT WHAT.

How is this even..

so many fans silenced at once.. wow.

Busaiku 07-19-2011 02:43 AM

[QUOTE=Lance Bone Path]Who knows how much more money they would have had to spend before the prototype would have been ready for release on the 3DS store? Maybe even accounting for the projected number of sales of the prototype, they calculated that they would come out ahead by canceling now.[/QUOTE]
When they had showed off the Prototype on TV, didn't they state that they'd pretty much finished it?

AceBandage 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

[QUOTE=ShockingAlberto]I didn't say doom and gloom. The Wii is the best selling console in years.

I think the actual software ecosystem on the 3DS is going to closely match it, though.[/QUOTE]


I dunno about that.
The DS didn't have very good software for its few months either.
It just takes a spark to set it off.

Slime 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

Shitty? Yes. Surprising? Not really.

A new Legends game was always going to face an uphill battle, and with its main advocate gone, I think its cancellation was kind of an inevitability. The fact that we were [i]this close[/i] is always going to sting though. This sucks.

Takao 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

Wow.

Fuck you Crapcom.

I'd say they're joining the ranks of Namco Bandai, and Konami but those smucks still make games I'm interested in.

Why would you do that? 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

I had a random thought... What if the developers at Capcom make the MML development more open to the community, only so that the heads of Capcom would get a whole lot of grief if they didn't greenlight it?

It seems like it's working splendidly!

Father_Brain 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

[QUOTE=ShockingAlberto]I didn't say doom and gloom. The Wii is the best selling console in years.

I think the actual software ecosystem on the 3DS is going to closely match it, though.[/QUOTE]

I suppose we'll see. At the very least, it's certainly not a system whose sales (such as they are) are being driven by uber-casual titles, nor does that look to change for some time.

Regulus Tera 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

Oh wow.

Crapcom.

dallow_bg 07-19-2011 02:44 AM

So shitty.
I really wanted this.

luka 07-19-2011 02:45 AM

[QUOTE=Dr. Chaos]Atleast we finally got Megaman 9 (and 10).

Those bastards can't take that away from us.[/QUOTE]
Well, it's DD only, so technically they can. :P

Gaogaogao 07-19-2011 02:45 AM

[QUOTE=playoverwork]Hey, fuck some of you guys. Capcom are still some of the best game designers around and while this does suck, they should have made it a multiplatform PS3/360/PC game anyways.[/QUOTE]
when dragons dogma (the game that all the money and japanese devs are working on) comes out, and is a massive failure, you will realize its over.

Mature 07-19-2011 02:46 AM

Look what your careless hands have wrought, Capcom.

[spoiler]AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!![/spoiler]

EmmanuelMunoz 07-19-2011 02:46 AM

...I don't know....

madmaxx350 07-19-2011 02:46 AM

[QUOTE=luka]Well, it's DD only, so technically they can. :P[/QUOTE]

you really are giving them ideas???? Don't give them ideas!!!

Poyunch 07-19-2011 02:46 AM

[QUOTE=Gaogaogao]when dragons dogma (the game that all the money and japanese devs are working on) comes out, and is a massive failure, you will realize its over.[/QUOTE]
No they'll live off of more fighting games and Monster Hunter. :/

[spoiler]Nothing against those games though. Damn you Capcom.[/spoiler]

Jinfash 07-19-2011 02:47 AM

[QUOTE=AceBandage]I dunno about that.
The DS didn't have very good software for its few months either.
It just takes a spark to set it off.[/QUOTE]
What would be [I]the[/I] spark for the 3DS software sales, I wonder. I know that the Marios and Co. were the fuel to what Nintendogs and Brain Training started. Will the 3DS need that kind of offbeat catalyst or not, is something that is yet to be seen.

Riposte 07-19-2011 02:47 AM

Upcoming Capcom titles I can list off the top of my head (not counting HD remakes or ports)

Asura's Wrath (external)
Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City (external)
DmC (external)
Dead Rising 2 Off the Record (not sure if external or not)
Dragon's Dogma
Street Fighter vs Tekken
Gyakuten Kenji 2 (No NA version it seems)
Resident Evil Revelations

Speculation: (Very likely)
A new Marvel vs Capcom 3?
Monster Hunter 3rd G/Vita?
+three more Vita titles (could be ports. four if there isn't a MH in the works)

qq more 07-19-2011 02:47 AM

[QUOTE=luka]Well, it's DD only, so technically they can. :P[/QUOTE]
"Capcom To Pull Mega Man 9 And 10 from every st-

aw screw it, can't finish the joke because it's such a scary thought that it's actually possible


[spoiler]Thankfully Capcom wouldn't really do that[/spoiler]

AceBandage 07-19-2011 02:48 AM

[QUOTE=Jinfash]What would be [I]the[/I] spark for the 3DS software sales, I wonder. I know that the Marios and Co. were the fuel to what Nintendogs and Brain Training started.[/QUOTE]


Could literally be anything, honestly.
Personally, I'd like to see Heroes of Ruin really take off so we could see more Diablo clones on handhelds.

C-Jo 07-19-2011 02:48 AM

[QUOTE=Riposte]Upcoming Capcom titles I can list off the top of my head

Asura's Wrath (external)
Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City
DmC (external)
Dead Rising 2 Off the Record (not sure if internal or not)
Dragon's Dogma
Street Fighter vs Tekken
Gyakuten Kenji 2 (No NA version it seems)
Resident Evil Revelations
[/QUOTE]
Raccoon City is external, Off the Record is Capcom Vancouver and Gyakuten Kenji 2 came out in February.

ULTROS! 07-19-2011 02:49 AM

[QUOTE=Takao]Wow.

Fuck you Crapcom.

I'd say they're joining the ranks of Namco Bandai, and Konami but those smucks still make games I'm interested in.[/QUOTE]

Namco Bandai is way better than Capcom now (focus on Japanese development from what I've read, bringing a Tales game even if it's late).

Probably they're on par with Konami because Konami doesn't give two shits about Suikoden and keeps dragging down Silent Hill.

Why would you do that? 07-19-2011 02:49 AM

[QUOTE=Riposte]Upcoming Capcom titles I can list off the top of my head

*list*[/QUOTE]
There's also Nazo Waku Yakata for the 3DS, a game I'm personally looking forward to. It probably won't come out here, though...

One thing I can say good about Capcom right now is that they sure do localize their games, so I have hope. EDIT: Except Edgeworth 2... But it's late in the DS cycle, so yeah...

LiK 07-19-2011 02:49 AM

[QUOTE=Riposte]Upcoming Capcom titles I can list off the top of my head (not counting HD remakes or ports)

Asura's Wrath (external)
Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City (external)
DmC (external)
Dead Rising 2 Off the Record (not sure if external or not)
Dragon's Dogma
Street Fighter vs Tekken
Gyakuten Kenji 2 (No NA version it seems)
Resident Evil Revelations

Speculation: (Very likely)
A new Marvel vs Capcom 3?
Monster Hunter 3rd G/Vita?
+three more Vita titles (could be ports. four if there isn't a MH in the works)[/QUOTE]

yea, fuck them for not localizing Edgeworth 2. i wanna play that!

SolarKnight 07-19-2011 02:49 AM

[QUOTE=Green Scar]MvC3, you lose :P[/QUOTE]

Depends on who you ask, and even then that game was very clearly rushed =/


*sigh* I wish they could've at least released the Prototype, that was the one chance they had to prove that the people actually wanted this, but now it's gone.

Never would I have imagined that the future of the Megaman franchise of all things would ever feel so uncertain...

BocoDragon 07-19-2011 02:50 AM

WHAT???

This is a sad day :(

Lindsay 07-19-2011 02:50 AM

I was pretty sure this was vaporware all along but even so it was the one and only reason I had an interest in getting a 3DS sometime before 2013~14. Screw you Capcom! -_-

ReverseFate 07-19-2011 02:50 AM

I bought my 3DS for nothing.....

provo57 07-19-2011 02:51 AM

Guess I won't be getting a 3DS, at least for the time being.

Gaogaogao 07-19-2011 02:51 AM

[QUOTE=ReverseFate]I bought my 3DS for nothing.....[/QUOTE]
quick sell it before the price drops

The Mana Legend 07-19-2011 02:52 AM

A gaming world without Mega Man. Why didn't the Gaming Gods take Sonic instead?

Hot Coldman 07-19-2011 02:53 AM

[QUOTE=SolarKnight]Depends on who you ask, and even then that game was very clearly rushed =/[/QUOTE]

The majority of people who play that game seem to like it. But it was rushed for sure.

I think Capcom's problem is its big IPs don't mean much anymore. A numbered Resi will sell tons but that's about it. It needs to scale back, settle for lower profits and lower output and concentrate on more developer driven projects. If they let their devs go nuts with small DD projects they could turn some heads. As it is, they still think they're one of the big boys, when they're very much not.

SonicMegaDrive 07-19-2011 02:53 AM

[QUOTE=The Mana Legend]A gaming world without Mega Man. Why didn't the Gaming Gods take Sonic instead?[/QUOTE]

If Mega Man didn't die, he probably would end up like Sonic. It's for the best.

Eteric Rice 07-19-2011 02:53 AM

Should we be concerned about the 3DS?

Because I'm getting concerned...

Wallach 07-19-2011 02:54 AM

They should have never greenlit the prototype.

Nonoriri 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

R.I.P
 
;____;

Poyunch 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

I want to see Nintendo's reactions to all these cancellations.

luka 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

What exactly is Inafking up to these days? He needs to get his hands on the Rockman IP somehow. :(

Ashodin 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

[QUOTE=RurouniZel]... *sigh* What the fucking fuck is going on this year? Nintendo fail, Capcom fail, Sega fail, seriously what in the fucking fuck is going on??? >_<[/QUOTE]
Call it the "Great Japanese Critical Failure Era". Seriously.

Gravijah 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

[QUOTE=Wallach]They should have never greenlit the prototype.[/QUOTE]

You be quiet. You be [I]quiet[/I].

Mileena 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

[QUOTE=Green Scar]MvC3, you lose :P
[/QUOTE]
X-factor, everyone loses :(

B.K. 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

[QUOTE=Wallach]They should have never greenlit the prototype.[/QUOTE]

They should have never announced the project at all.

daffy 07-19-2011 02:55 AM

A Digimon game was greenlit in Japan for PSP.

for christ's sake

C-Jo 07-19-2011 02:56 AM

[QUOTE=PounchEnvy]I want to see Nintendo's reactions to all these cancellations.[/QUOTE]
reggie shrug

LiK 07-19-2011 02:56 AM

[QUOTE=B.K.]They should have never announced the project at all.[/QUOTE]

gotta give everyone some false hope.

ShockingAlberto 07-19-2011 02:56 AM

[QUOTE=AceBandage]I dunno about that.
The DS didn't have very good software for its few months either.
It just takes a spark to set it off.[/QUOTE]
It's not necessarily a lack of software, it's how the software that's announced is treated.

Konami clearly saw no financial viability in MGS3DS, so they yanked the budget. The result is a downgrade from a demo made in two weeks, on the actual hardware, that looks barely above the 2004 PS2 release, if noticeably at all.

Dream Drop Distance is barely being talked about. At this junction in Birth By Sleep's development, Sony showed that game off like crazy. Square and Nintendo have nothing to show. Square announced Chocobo Racing, with screenshots, and has hidden it away like Quasimodo since. Is it still ringing the bells over in Square's office? Who even fucking knows!

Capcom threw a quick cashgrab RE title with a 30 second demo and hilarious DRM at the system, a rushed port of a fighting game (where the next game in the series will not be coming to the 3DS, but is coming to the Vita with exclusive content), canceled a title they announced last year after pulling the promised demo from the 3DSware launch, announced a minigame collection that they refuse to acknowledge, and will maybe release an RE title middle-to-late next year that will likely get ported to other systems.

Time and time again, I see people saying "Well, Wii software would have had a chance if the developers put effort in!" Which is mostly true. A lot of that Wii software was shit or mis-marketed to the craziest possible aims. Those developers did not care to or want to treat those releases with respect, because they saw the system as a side-toy that could be used to siphon money from people who did not know better.

You see that same gleam in the eye of publishers on the 3DS. They're not going to respect the software like they do on HD consoles or like they did on the DS. They're going to find reasons not to develop on it, they're going to put out games that developers can work on in-between their HD projects or on their lunch breaks.

It's how it went down with the Wii.

It's how it will go down with the 3DS if something does not happen soon.

Hot Coldman 07-19-2011 02:57 AM

[QUOTE=corkscrewblow]X-factor, everyone loses :([/QUOTE]

DASH 3 just got Level 3 Dark Phoenix'd D:

Mafro 07-19-2011 02:57 AM

[QUOTE=Eteric Rice]Should we be concerned about the 3DS?

Because I'm getting concerned...[/QUOTE]
After 4-6 months? Nope.

So many knee-jerk reactions and faux outrage over a niche game getting cancelled.

Dambrosi 07-19-2011 02:57 AM

[QUOTE=ShockingAlberto]I didn't say doom and gloom. The Wii is the best selling console in years.

I think the actual software ecosystem on the 3DS is going to closely match it, though.[/QUOTE]
As has been said, the DS underperformed in both sales and games quality in its first eight months of release. It took the release of Mario Kart DS (I think) to spark the beginning of what would become one of the best-selling games machines of all time.

A lot of [spoiler]PSVita fanfriends[/spoiler]people seem to forget that it's not a sprint, but a marathon.

celcius 07-19-2011 02:57 AM

I didn't plan on buying a 3DS but was still interested in seeing how this game turned out. Sucks to hear it ended up like this. Too bad they don't start from scratch and make it for ps3...[spoiler]yeah right[/spoiler]

iKeepPlaying 07-19-2011 02:57 AM

[QUOTE=The Mana Legend]A gaming world without Mega Man. Why didn't the Gaming Gods take Sonic instead?[/QUOTE]
Hell, take Mario if they want.
I want my Megaman X9!!!!


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