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Father_Brain 07-19-2011 02:28 AM

Yeesh, if Capcom wanted to avoid anger over this decision, all they might have needed to do would be to release Prototype Version first. People might have been [I]begging[/I] for them to cancel it!

also, lol, people will use literally anything as an excuse for OMG 3DS DOOMED

Caelus 07-19-2011 02:28 AM

This could have been so good.

Soooooooo fucking good.

And now it's gone, I knew it was too good to be true. And we'll never get a ZX3, MM11 or MMX9 either.

Hot Coldman 07-19-2011 02:29 AM

holy shit

looks like marketing kicked the dev staff in the balls until they deleted all the work they'd done

Aeana 07-19-2011 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=Father_Brain]Yeesh, if they wanted to avoid anger over this decision, all they'd have needed to do would be to release Prototype Version first.[/QUOTE]
I think that would probably make things worse. Unless the prototype was really awful.

ULTROS! 07-19-2011 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=Riposte]I don't understand why people want to boycott games or are hoping other games bomb, like Dragon's Dogma. Don't you like videogames? What if Capcom releases a game you want to play? This thread seems really thick with angry fanboyism to the point of a mob mentality. Not a lot of thinking going on.[/QUOTE]

Sadly, Dragon's Dogma doesn't seem to catch my eye... At all.

The last few games that were able to catch my eye were from Mikami and Kamiya... And that was a long time ago (not into fighting games), oh and canon Resident Evil (namely RE5).

The next games that I will be buying from them is RE4 and RECVX HD.

Father_Brain 07-19-2011 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=Aeana]I think that would probably make things worse. Unless the prototype was really awful.[/QUOTE]

The footage I saw looked janky as fuck.

madmaxx350 07-19-2011 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=TheUnknownForce]How it went down in my derped mind.

"3DS is the next DS. We put all our money on PSP games first and that was bad. We need to support this big thing baaaadly! But we need games at the launch so we'll send a beefed up port and compilation-port-thingie. The big stuff'll come later, if they sell. Oh you want Megaman Legends 3? Ehhhh, well, Inafune is here, so we won't kill you for asking, come again later. That Universe game, though, it's on XBLA and PSN so GREEENLIT!"

...

"Oh, good, Inafune left. We can drop all Megaman projects already greenlit and move on with becoming a Western-focused publisher with the occasional Monster Hunter for Japan. Legends 3 isn't greenlit, so we won't cancel it now. Besides, it's on 3DS! It can't fail, what with the ports everyone put onto it at launch!"

...

"Oh, 3DS is a bit expensive it seems...and our big port launch title sold well but we shipped a million and it clearly didn't need that many at launch. Maybe it'll pick up a lot of steam shortly! As for Legends 3...we'll force them to release a prototype of it. Then when we cancel it and dash the fanbase's hearts and minds, we'll never need to speak of it ever again. GREAT PR MOVE!"

...

"Oh, 3DS didn't really boost up as we thought. DS is still selling pretty well, too. Damn, and we already cancelled all our DS US releases after sending Okamiden to die. Prototype Version not ready? Delay it, just before E3 happens. There's no way this can go wrong at all."

...

"PS Vita has a lot of support heading its way, and our Mercenaries compilation is stumbling at that 'can't-remove-save-data' debacle. 3DS might recooperate by holiday, but we LIVE IN THE NOW. Legends 3 team, get in here! The game's cancelled. Now get to work on Dragon's Dogma for PSVita. IT CANT LOSE!"[/QUOTE]

wouldn't surprise me if that actually happened. Though I don't see why people want other Capcom titles to bomb except DmC

MushroomSamba 07-19-2011 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=Riposte]There seems to be little to nothing to move. Like, this could be a case of "not getting the green light" rather than being canceled.


I don't understand why people want to boycott games or are hoping other games bomb, like Dragon's Dogma. Don't you like videogames? What if Capcom releases a game you want to play? This thread seems really thick with angry fanboyism to the point of a mob mentality. Not a lot of thinking going on.[/QUOTE]

I'll admit, it makes no sense and it'll probably hurt me more than it'd hurt them, but I'm feeling pretty damn pissed at the moment...spiteful enough to not want to support a company that just shat all over one of their most loyal, longtime fanbases.

Why would you do that? 07-19-2011 02:30 AM

[QUOTE=Serenade]Watch them announce Megaman 11 at TGS.[/QUOTE]
I'd love this more than MML. But the MML wounds will still be there. :(

Eusis 07-19-2011 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=Aeana]I think that would probably make things worse. Unless the prototype was really awful.[/QUOTE]
On the other hand it was the one piece that was within reach. Simply canceling a far off game's one thing, something that's almost RIGHT THERE and is all we'd ever have is worse when it comes to getting to play the game at all.

Jinfash 07-19-2011 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=Father_Brain]Yeesh, if they wanted to avoid anger over this decision, all they'd have needed to do would be to release Prototype Version first.[/QUOTE]
Then deem the experiment a failure based on undivulged statistics and numbers. At least in that case people would point fingers at each other instead of Capcom.

Busaiku 07-19-2011 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=Aeana]I think that would probably make things worse. Unless the prototype was really awful.[/QUOTE]
Even if it was awful, if they released it and it did horribly, I can understand why the project was canceled.
But they've already spent the money on the prototype, promoted it, and they're still not releasing it.

I just can't understand that.

Femmeworth 07-19-2011 02:31 AM

Shu Takumi needs to leave Capcom so I can finally say that they are 100% dead to me.

AceBandage 07-19-2011 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=Why would you do that?]I'd love this more than MML. But the MML wounds will still be there. :([/QUOTE]


Really?
I mean, I enjoy the classic MegaMan style as much as the next guy, but we just had two of them. I'd much rather have a new Legends or at least a new X.

Roto13 07-19-2011 02:32 AM

[QUOTE=Father_Brain]also, lol, people will use literally anything as an excuse for OMG 3DS DOOMED[/QUOTE]
Yes. Legends 3 was never, ever, EVER going to sell systems.

SonicMegaDrive 07-19-2011 02:32 AM

[QUOTE=Serenade]smh[/QUOTE]

At least we got Mega Man 9 and 10. I couldn't ask for a better send off than that.

Poyunch 07-19-2011 02:32 AM

Dragon's Dogma looked interesting when I thought it was a co-op Monster Hunter-like game. When it was revealed that it was exclusively single-player I lost all interest. The game looked pretty uninspired but I was willing to look past it at something that's Monster Hunter-ish. But nope.

Big Papa Husker 07-19-2011 02:32 AM

Fuck you Capcom!

Barkley's Justice 07-19-2011 02:32 AM

would get murked in retail. capcom made the right call.

lets place the blame on the real perpetrators: microsoft & sony for their iron-fisted control of xbla and psn respectively. if publishers had the power to sell their boxed titles digitally day-and-date with brick and mortar releases, as well as control their own pricing structure and sales, then this game would have a good chance at coming out.

playoverwork 07-19-2011 02:33 AM

Hey, fuck some of you guys. Capcom are still some of the best game designers around and while this does suck, they should have made it a multiplatform PS3/360/PC game anyways.

Jinfash 07-19-2011 02:33 AM

[QUOTE=Roto13]Yes. Legends 3 was never, ever, EVER going to sell systems.[/QUOTE]
Even [I]Chubigans [/I]didn't include it in the 3DS blackboard.

Ichor 07-19-2011 02:33 AM

First Bomberman was canceled.
Now Mega Man Legends 3!?!? WTF!?!

My favorite game series ever man. Just fuck.

BeautifulMemory 07-19-2011 02:33 AM

[QUOTE=playoverwork]Hey, fuck some of you guys. Capcom are still some of the best game designers around and while this does suck, they should have made it a multiplatform PS3/360/PC game anyways.[/QUOTE]


Name some good Capcom has made recently. I dare you .

AceBandage 07-19-2011 02:34 AM

[QUOTE=playoverwork]Hey, fuck some of you guys. Capcom are still some of the best game designers around and while this does suck, they should have made it a multiplatform PS3/360/PC game anyways.[/QUOTE]


There's no way this would have made back the cost of an HD title unless it was download only and super short.
As a handheld title, it could have done decently.

Riposte 07-19-2011 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=Busaiku]
But they've already spent the money on the prototype, promoted it, and they're still not releasing it.

I just can't understand that.[/QUOTE]

From the way I understand it, they probably didn't spend much money at all. If the picture Inafune painted rings true, then this was their(the team? not so much Inafune I guess) attempt to get the permission and funding to make the game. What we saw was very basic stuff. Blogs and concept art. At most it would have came to a very cheap prototype. Seems like the board of directors are smartening up to that tactic lol.

Hot Coldman 07-19-2011 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=BeautifulMemory]Name some good Capcom has made recently. I dare you .[/QUOTE]

MvC3, you lose :P

Capcom pretty much suck all around outside of their fighting game output though. The glory days of Clover/Mikami have passed

Cow Mengde 07-19-2011 02:35 AM

Oh look, Capcom trolling. What a surprise.

Father_Brain 07-19-2011 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=ShockingAlberto]And people thought I was totally fucking crazy for pointing out that the 3DS's life cycle might trend more toward the Wii than the DS.

I'm not going to call those people out, mostly because I can't remember who it was, but isn't it all starting to seem eerily familiar? The downgraded ports, the missing games, the announced titles that then completely disappeared?[/QUOTE]

Drawing 3DS doom-and-gloom conclusions from a cancellation that seems to be driven primarily by internal politics? I expect better from you. :/

I mean, I don't claim to be able to judge whether your prediction is wrong or not, but this does not seem like a good title to use as supporting evidence.

Kard8p3 07-19-2011 02:35 AM

I love how we aren't even half a year into the life of the 3DS and already we have people saying RIP.

To stay on topic though it sucks that this got cancelled. I guess this is the end for Mega Man.

MushroomSamba 07-19-2011 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=Roto13]Yes. Legends 3 was never, ever, EVER going to sell systems.[/QUOTE]

It would've at least sold one. :\

Unless a Fire Emblem game pops up there some time, I lost my sole reason for buying it.

Gospel 07-19-2011 02:37 AM

[QUOTE=playoverwork]Capcom are still some of the best game designers around [/QUOTE]
we wouldn't know since they aren't even developing their own games OH SNAP SON

Boney 07-19-2011 02:38 AM

[IMG]http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/dash3/en/img/pic_progress.jpg[/IMG]

ShyGuy0504 07-19-2011 02:38 AM

Words can't express how disappointed I am right now.

Poyunch 07-19-2011 02:38 AM

[QUOTE=Boney][IMG]http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/dash3/en/img/pic_progress.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Did you change your avatar because of this?

On-topic: wat?

Gospel 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

[QUOTE=Kard8p3]To stay on topic though it sucks that this got cancelled. I guess this is the end for Mega Man.[/QUOTE]
Nah, I'm sure there are sheepmen that will still buy the continuous stream of 8-bit regurgitations.

TheUnknownForce 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

So is this the first time EVER that there hasn't been a Megaman game in development?

Holy crap!

Gaogaogao 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

Fuck you capcom, all hope is lost.

good luck with dragons dogma, what the fuck.

Why would you do that? 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

[QUOTE=AceBandage]Really?
I mean, I enjoy the classic MegaMan style as much as the next guy, but we just had two of them. I'd much rather have a new Legends or at least a new X.[/QUOTE]
Being a classic Mega Man fan, I was unreasonably happy with MM9 and MM10, while at the same time, I never really played Legends, though the games look really fun. But that's just me. I'm still really annoyed about this, though. :(

Ichabod 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

You Broke my Legend
 
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pQPqFkBgw&feature=related"]do me a favore
call Keiji Inafune
Address...Year 20XX
tell him to go through the clickity-click boss gate
im soo sorry<3 [/URL]

we.are.the.armada 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

I really shouldn't have watched [I][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzzXnv5JYo&feature=youtu.be"]this[/URL][/I]... ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

RurouniZel 07-19-2011 02:40 AM

... *sigh* What the fucking fuck is going on this year? Nintendo fail, Capcom fail, Sega fail, seriously what in the fucking fuck is going on??? >_<

LiK 07-19-2011 02:40 AM

guess what? MORE STREET FIGHTER!

Lance Bone Path 07-19-2011 02:40 AM

[QUOTE=Busaiku]Even if it was awful, if they released it and it did horribly, I can understand why the project was canceled.
But they've already spent the money on the prototype, promoted it, and they're still not releasing it.

I just can't understand that.[/QUOTE]
Who knows how much more money they would have had to spend before the prototype would have been ready for release on the 3DS store? Maybe even accounting for the projected number of sales of the prototype, they calculated that they would come out ahead by canceling now.

BeautifulMemory 07-19-2011 02:40 AM

[QUOTE=LiK]guess what? MORE STREET FIGHTER and MVC3 [B]DLC[/B]![/QUOTE]


Added for emphasis

ShockingAlberto 07-19-2011 02:40 AM

[QUOTE=Father_Brain]Drawing 3DS doom-and-gloom conclusions from a cancellation that seems to be driven primarily by internal politics? I expect better from you. :/

I mean, I don't claim to be able to judge whether your prediction is wrong or not, but this does not seem like a good title to use as supporting evidence.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say doom and gloom. The Wii is the best selling console in years.

I think the actual software ecosystem on the 3DS is going to closely match it, though.

Hot Coldman 07-19-2011 02:41 AM

[QUOTE=LiK]guess what? MORE STREET FIGHTER![/QUOTE]

if capcom is going to make good games you should be thankful for it

doesn't seem to be a common occurrence from them nowadays

BannedEpisode 07-19-2011 02:41 AM

I feel for you megaman fans.

[spoiler]I have never really enjoyed Megaman and kinda lol'd when I read this on Capcom Unity[/spoiler]

evangd007 07-19-2011 02:41 AM

[QUOTE=madmaxx350]wouldn't surprise me if that actually happened. Though I don't see why people want other Capcom titles to bomb except DmC[/QUOTE]

DmC and Operation Raccoon City give away a lot about the company's general direction. And the fans feel that it is not a good direction.

qq more 07-19-2011 02:41 AM

[QUOTE=playoverwork]Hey, fuck some of you guys. Capcom are still some of the best game designers around and while this does suck, they should have made it a multiplatform PS3/360/PC game anyways.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha no. How about fuck your port begging? Sick of hearing "X SHOULD BE ON PS3/360".

RomanticHeroX 07-19-2011 02:42 AM

[QUOTE=RurouniZel]... *sigh* What the fucking fuck is going on this year? Nintendo fail, Capcom fail, Sega fail, seriously what in the fucking fuck is going on??? >_<[/QUOTE]
Gaming is dead. The upside is having no new games to buy frees up plenty of money to get into retro gaming, when things were good.


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