Has Nintendo said anything about that bullshit shortcut in one of the race? Wahu something? Can they eventually patch it?

[QUOTE=Bisnic;34009547]Has Nintendo said anything about that bullshit shortcut in one of the race? Wahu something? Can they eventually patch it?[/QUOTE]

A few people have said they've received e-mails from Nintendo saying they are aware of it, but they won't update it because "it would give an unfair advantage to owners of the original version" or something like that.

Not sure how true that is, but if it is it confirms the game has no ability to be patched which sounds more than likely. It's pretty disgusting that they will be selling DLC in Fire Emblem before putting out patches to fix games.

It's me and Brave in a lobby right now. Join!

edit:Shit I got disconnected

All those blue shells, I just can't keep up!

So fun though.

need 3 more, lets gooooo!

raito back out join on me

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34009620]All those blue shells, I just can't keep up!

So fun though.[/QUOTE]

They were both from me :)

[QUOTE=Ysiadmihi;34009613]A few people have said they've received e-mails from Nintendo saying they are aware of it, but they won't update it because "it would give an unfair advantage to owners of the original version" or something like that.

Not sure how true that is, but if it is it confirms the game has no ability to be patched which sounds more than likely. It's pretty disgusting that they will be selling DLC in Fire Emblem before putting out patches to fix games.[/QUOTE]

What does that even mean Nintendo?
-.-

[QUOTE=Raitosaito;34009635]What does that even mean Nintendo?
-.-[/QUOTE]
the mean it would probably be an optional patch. meaning that you could just not update it and still cheat.

That's one of the worst reason i ever heard, and honestly if i ever get that place again and see someone using that stupid shortcut, i'll just disconnect.

[QUOTE=Raitosaito;34009635]What does that even mean Nintendo?
-.-[/QUOTE]

It depends on how you interpret it, but to me it sounds like they can't update existing copies and only copies manufactured after a fix would not be able to perform the glitch.

In other words, the game is not patchable. Not the smartest thing to do with a game that is going to be immensely popular. Any other developer would find a workaround, which I'm sure is possible, but this is Nintendo.

Boo, got dc'd.

dat banana raitosaito

[QUOTE=braves01;34009771]dat banana raitosaito[/QUOTE]

LOL ily<3

but you still won in the end...

my battery's done so I'm out for tonight. fun playing with you all

Rainbow Road. First. No blue shell. Feels fucking good man

[QUOTE=Ysiadmihi;34009613]A few people have said they've received e-mails from Nintendo saying they are aware of it, but they won't update it because "it would give an unfair advantage to owners of the original version" or something like that.

Not sure how true that is, but if it is it confirms the game has no ability to be patched which sounds more than likely. It's pretty disgusting that they will be selling DLC in Fire Emblem before putting out patches to fix games.[/QUOTE]

Actually that sounds more like they won't release new GAME CARDS with a fix. Think about it. Considering the patch would be downloaded, anyone who didn't want it could choose not to or delete it, options that wouldn't be available to those who bought the game with the glitch fixed.

It really says nothing about the game's ability to be patched. If anything, the fact that they didn't outright say it couldn't be patched says something...

[QUOTE=Ysiadmihi;34009699]It depends on how you interpret it, but to me it sounds like they can't update existing copies and only copies manufactured after a fix would not be able to perform the glitch.

In other words, the game is not patchable. Not the smartest thing to do with a game that is going to be immensely popular. Any other developer would find a workaround, which I'm sure is possible, but this is Nintendo.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't they just put it into a full system update? It should not be that hard.


[QUOTE=Zoramon089;34009940]Actually that sounds more like they won't release new GAME CARDS with a fix. Think about it. Considering the patch would be downloaded, anyone who didn't want it could choose not to or delete it, options that wouldn't be available to those who bought the game with the glitch fixed.[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't that only apply to offline though? It should be possible to make a mandatory update appear when you go to online play.

[QUOTE=Zoramon089;34009940]Actually that sounds more like they won't release new GAME CARDS with a fix. Think about it. Considering the patch would be downloaded, anyone who didn't want it could choose not to or delete it, options that wouldn't be available to those who bought the game with the glitch fixed.

It really says nothing about the game's ability to be patched. If anything, the fact that they didn't outright say it couldn't be patched says something...[/QUOTE]

They could simply not allow any un-updated versions of the game online. Doing the glitch against the CPU or your local friends isn't going to do much harm. The online play is what suffers because of it.

[quote=-WindYoshi-]Couldn't they just put it into a full system update? It should not be that hard.[/quote]

I would assume so, but will they? More than likely not.

I'm not keeping any hope alive that it will be fixed. Not having patches for Brawl or MK Wii in 2008 was unacceptable. For a game released in late 2011, it's pathetic.

[QUOTE=-WindYoshi-;34009965]
Wouldn't that only apply to offline though? It should be possible to make a mandatory update appear when you go to online play.[/QUOTE]

Whether it's mandatory or not, there's nothing stopping people from finding the corresponding file by putting the SD card into their computer and deleting it, an option people with the fixed game card wouldn't have

[QUOTE=Zoramon089;34010038]Whether it's mandatory or not, there's nothing stopping people from finding the corresponding file by putting the SD card into their computer and deleting it, an option people with the fixed game card wouldn't have[/QUOTE]

Didn't think of that :x
Oh cruel world.

Ok, Sony needs to fix these connection problems.

I get dropped, I never Rage quit.

edit:Nintendo

LOL

[QUOTE=Raitosaito;34010075]Ok, [B]Sony[/B] needs to fix these connection problems.

I get dropped, I never Rage quit.[/QUOTE]

Freudian slip? ;)

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34010151]Freudian slip? ;)[/QUOTE]
No. Nintendo and Sony need to join forces to take down Iphone.

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34010151]Freudian slip? ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL I was in a Vita thread and yeah...

Team Rosa DOMINATION

This game is SO MUCH better with headphones! Whoa. I've really been missing out!

TEAM ROSA AND ANIMEGAF DOMINATION AGAIN!

More like Yoshi domination brah

I'm so salty right now.

[QUOTE=Busaiku;34010504]I'm so salty right now.[/QUOTE]

It's ok brah, I was salty in the first room I was in. I have found my Mt. Akina now.

Calling out GAF, let's finally race on Mirror! I'll be waiting.

Animegaf taking top 3 spots, feels good bros.

[QUOTE=-WindYoshi-;34010429]This game is SO MUCH better with headphones! Whoa. I've really been missing out![/QUOTE]


You're so right!

That was the most chaotic Waluigi Pinball I have ever been a part of... TOTAL ANARCHY!

(wow, I am seriously having the worst luck of my life today.... on a more positive note, thanks to everyone for not bitching out on Maka Wuhu!)

Cmon MK GAF. LETS MIRROR.

Mirror race would be neat, doesnt seem like people use the other groups much sadly.

I'm waiting!

i got d/c

wtf

[QUOTE=-WindYoshi-;34010583]That was the most chaotic Waluigi Pinball I have ever been a part of... TOTAL ANARCHY!

(wow, I am seriously having the worst luck of my life today.... on a more positive note, thanks to everyone for not bitching out on Maka Wuhu!)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, eight people doing a clean Maka Wuhu race... it was refreshing. And fun! It really is a great course.

3 folks in mirror now! Cmon! This is your chance to become #1 on a GAF leaderboard!

Yeah we are going to do a mirror circuit if anyone wants in.

Team peach for lyfe

Mirror racing is difficult.

Getting hit by a blue shell when you're in second because the guy in first just finished is heartbreaking.

[QUOTE=Papercuts;34011083]Getting hit by a blue shell when you're in second because the guy in first just finished is heartbreaking.[/QUOTE]
or when you're about to win the race, but you get hit with a shell. And then another shell. AND THEN 2 MORE. And then you go from 1st to 8th.

But going from 8th to first on the last lap has got to be the most exciting thing, Love this game

In Worldwide random wifi mode, if you play in Maka Wuhu and don't do the glitch, is 90% that you will be in the last places.
That's because, all people do the glitch and kill that course.

They really have to fix that glitch...I rarely get community games to work so I'm mostly stuck to worldwide matches.Having like 5 out of 8 idiots pick that course is infuriating.I can't even understand why you would do it? Most people know the trick and by doing it you end up spending more time waiting to play than actually racing.I rage quit everytime on that course now. /whinge

[QUOTE=Instro;34011050]Mirror racing is difficult.[/QUOTE]

In past Mario Karts the moment I unlocked mirror it was the only mode I used. However since most online racing is done in 150cc I've decided to stick to that so I don't risk developing muscle memory in the opposite direction of the course.

I noticed that retro Studios did a lot of the tracks in this game. are they some of the best in the series?

[QUOTE=Tunavi;34010999]Team peach for lyfe[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://asset3.neogaf.com/forum/image.php?u=73680&dateline=1325210423&type=thumb[/IMG]

[QUOTE=SomeDude;34012081]I noticed that retro Studios did a lot of the tracks in this game. are they some of the best in the series?[/QUOTE]

Think they only did the new DK track and the retro courses...I do love the DK stage tho.

I still don't really understand why people who don't like the glitch do it anyways.

Are the potential VR points gained really that much of an incentive?
Is it really going to wound your pride if you don't do the glitch and end up coming in 5th (or worse)?
Is the compulsion to take first more important than the desire to have fun on the track?

The VR points gained from any single race really aren't that significant, although I suppose you could argue that the collective total from cheating on Maka Wuhu adds up. The pride thing confuses me somewhat, as genuinely good players don't really have anything to prove—they end up doing well in almost every other race. And I understand the desire to be on top, but there can only be one person who finishes first in a race. If six people are doing the glitch, five won't win. Doing the glitch improves your chances of winning only marginally.


Needless to say, Maka Wuhu would be a lot more [I]fun[/I] if people who were complaining about it didn't do it in the first place. Even if one or two or three people cheated, you would still have a pretty fun race. But there's this bizarre sense of obligation to cheat and then promptly come on the internet and whine about cheating. If you don't like it, don't do it.

I'm actually glad it's become such a widespread problem in WW races. Maybe it'll make Nintendo realize they NEED to start utilizing patches.

I really can't bring myself to blame players for exploiting something in a game that won't be fixed because of pure laziness.

Nintendo has never been too keen on patches, so I don't know why they would start now. In a sense it's always been helpful to their brand; the lack of patching ability means they playtest their games relentlessly and almost always end up with an incredibly polished product. I've also kind of appreciated that they respect the "one and done" style of development, where they consider the game a finished product at release. But they've dragged their feet for way too long.

And the glitch doesn't really bother me personally; I couldn't care less about my VR or my pride. I'm just confused by people who say they don't like it and get up in arms about how terrible the track spamming and glitch abusing is, and then promptly cheat the moment they're given the opportunity.

Why can't it get a fix? Skyward sword get one, and mario kart is updated with ghosts everyday, I'm sure it will get challenges like the wii version too, so a patch could be easy.

I've never done it,but abstaining doesnt seem to help. And the idiots keep picking the course over and over. If you get otherwise decent players doing it,occasionally you don't even get to finish the damn race.I feel I have every right to bitch about this online.

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34012548]I still don't really understand why people who don't like the glitch do it anyways.

Are the potential VR points gained really that much of an incentive?
Is it really going to wound your pride if you don't do the glitch and end up coming in 5th (or worse)?
Is the compulsion to take first more important than the desire to have fun on the track?

The VR points gained from any single race really aren't that significant, although I suppose you could argue that the collective total from cheating on Maka Wuhu adds up. The pride thing confuses me somewhat, as genuinely good players don't really have anything to prove—they end up doing well in almost every other race. And I understand the desire to be on top, but there can only be one person who finishes first in a race. If six people are doing the glitch, five won't win. Doing the glitch improves your chances of winning only marginally.


Needless to say, Maka Wuhu would be a lot more [I]fun[/I] if people who were complaining about it didn't do it in the first place. Even if one or two or three people cheated, you would still have a pretty fun race. But there's this bizarre sense of obligation to cheat and then promptly come on the internet and whine about cheating. If you don't like it, don't do it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34012941]I'm just confused by people who say they don't like it and get up in arms about how terrible the track spamming and glitch abusing is, and then promptly cheat the moment they're given the opportunity.[/QUOTE]

If you're in a race where a significant number of other players are doing it, there is no reason to not do it yourself. You're not going to convince everyone else to race normally with you the next time the track comes up, nor are you going to convince the asswipe who votes for it every time to stop. There is no positive outcome from someone driving through the middle section all by themselves feeling like a dummy.

[quote=daakusedo]Why can't it get a fix? Skyward sword get one, and mario kart is updated with ghosts everyday, I'm sure it will get challenges like the wii version too, so a patch could be easy.[/quote]

The Skyward Sword "patch" is just a channel that edits your save file. MK7 was built with the ability to download ghosts to your save file. MK Wii's challenges were on the disc. All completely different things.

Oh, I think it's fine to complain about it. I've been complaining since I first heard about it, to the point where the folks in this thread are probably sick of me. I'm just genuinely interested in the rationale for doing it from people who don't like it. There will always be cheaters. The least some people could do is not cheat—especially if they're going to complain about it.

[QUOTE=daakusedo;34012975]Why can't it get a fix? Skyward sword get one, and mario kart is updated with ghosts everyday, I'm sure it will get challenges like the wii version too, so a patch could be easy.[/QUOTE]

Skyward Sword's fix was terribly awkward and involves downloading a channel to alter your save file. It isn't a direct patch. The problem for Mario Kart is that any such patch would be optional and ex post facto, and those who have an unpatched game would be able to exploit the glitch and have an unfair advantage.

Besides, if patching were possible, we either would have had one already - the game has been out for over a month now - or Nintendo would have made an official statement. We've had neither. I'm not getting my hopes up.

[QUOTE=Ysiadmihi]If you're in a race where a significant number of other players are doing it, there is no reason to not do it yourself. You're not going to convince everyone else to race normally with you the next time the track comes up, nor are you going to convince the asswipe who votes for it every time to stop. There is no positive outcome from someone driving through the middle section all by themselves feeling like a dummy.[/QUOTE]
No reason? The reason I don't do it is because I enjoy the track and competing against the ones that don't cheat. Again, there will always be cheaters. But if people who didn't like the glitch stopped doing it, the game would be more [I]fun[/I], and that's what I care about. And I hardly feel like a "dummy" because I don't cheat, although I suppose this reveals your feelings on the matter...

I never do the glitch in community races or worldwides with people I "know". That includes friends or GAFers who join through the recently played list or whatever. Totally fine with finishing 6th 7th and 8th or whatever. It's Mario Kart, who cares?

But alone in random WW rooms where people just pick it over and over, I'll do it faster and more efficiently than these useless cocksuckers until they start picking something else. And they do.

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34013109]No reason? The reason I don't do it is because I enjoy the track and competing against the ones that don't cheat. Again, there will always be cheaters. But if people who didn't like the glitch stopped doing it, the game would be more [I]fun[/I], and that's what I care about. And I hardly feel like a "dummy" because I don't cheat, although I suppose this reveals your feelings on the matter...[/QUOTE]

It's not cheating at this point. Literally (and I do mean literally) almost everyone does it when Maka Wuhu comes up. Believe me, I tried racing normally for the longest time before I realized the majority of the time I was the only one NOT doing it. There is no "fun" in running the middle section of the track BY YOURSELF. Wanting people who don't want to abuse the glitch to stop is an [b]impossibility[/b]. It's never going to happen. As far as WW races are concerned, Maka Wuhu without its second section is just how the track is.

Honestly though, it's just another problem with a game that should have been much better than it is. It's almost fitting that a lazy copy/paste job from Wii Sports Resort (one of TWO) should have a track ruining glitch.

[QUOTE=Ysiadmihi;34013412]It's not cheating at this point. Literally (and I do mean literally) almost everyone does it when Maka Wuhu comes up. Believe me, I tried racing normally for the longest time before I realized the majority of the time I was the only one NOT doing it. There is no "fun" in running the middle section of the track BY YOURSELF. Wanting people who don't want to abuse the glitch to stop is an [b]impossibility[/b]. It's never going to happen. As far as WW races are concerned, Maka Wuhu without its second section is just how the track is.

Honestly though, it's just another problem with a game that should have been much better than it is. It's almost fitting that a lazy copy/paste job from Wii Sports Resort (one of TWO) should have a track ruining glitch.[/QUOTE]

I did the same thing with not cheating and I agree that it's no fun doing the mid section alone and then not even bring able to finish the race due to being in 8th place.

YES YES YES YES!!!!!! God, VERY stressful experience trying to get this game to work and I FINALLY got it. Had to port forward the 3DS for it to finally get working but god am I relieved to have gotten
over this hurdle with the system. I'll definitely be joining KartGaf today.

;)

For those who are STILL having trouble with this game online and specifically are having an error where you can connect online to MK7 but can't connect to any race without having an instant disconnect error then I HIGHLY recommend doing the following.

[QUOTE]
Still not working? - Set up port forwarding in your router for the Nintendo 3DS.
Access your router's settings.
Find the "Port Forwarding" settings, which are often located in the section called "firewall," "security," or "applications and gaming."
When asked to enter a "name," enter “3DS."
For the starting port enter 1 and an end port of 65535.
Set to the "protocol" to TCP, UDP, or both.
Enter the IP address that you gave to the Nintendo 3DS earlier.
Select "Enable" or "Apply" to activate these settings and save the changes to the router.
Test the connection again and try to update.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.avforums.com/forums/15934211-post69.html[/url]

When you see someone do the Wuhu glitch you should turn around and start driving backwards. Then the game will disconnect you and you can try and hope into another race/do something else while those people are still finishing their race.

[QUOTE=Dr Prob;34013409]But alone in random WW rooms where people just pick it over and over, I'll do it faster and more efficiently than these useless cocksuckers until they start picking something else. And they do.[/QUOTE]


Yeah the glitch is a minor annoyance compared to the people repeatedly selecting it.

I hope everyone appreciates the legitimate cloudbushing to the right of the start line on the piranha plant track.

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34012548]I still don't really understand why people who don't like the glitch do it anyways.

Are the potential VR points gained really that much of an incentive?
Is it really going to wound your pride if you don't do the glitch and end up coming in 5th (or worse)?
Is the compulsion to take first more important than the desire to have fun on the track?

The VR points gained from any single race really aren't that significant, although I suppose you could argue that the collective total from cheating on Maka Wuhu adds up. The pride thing confuses me somewhat, as genuinely good players don't really have anything to prove—they end up doing well in almost every other race. And I understand the desire to be on top, but there can only be one person who finishes first in a race. If six people are doing the glitch, five won't win. Doing the glitch improves your chances of winning only marginally.


Needless to say, Maka Wuhu would be a lot more [I]fun[/I] if people who were complaining about it didn't do it in the first place. Even if one or two or three people cheated, you would still have a pretty fun race. But there's this bizarre sense of obligation to cheat and then promptly come on the internet and whine about cheating. If you don't like it, don't do it.[/QUOTE]

i found the issue yesterday for the first time (since i know the glitch exists, sure i have met it before and did not notice), people were selecting that track every fucking time, 2 or 3 of them, and after 4 times in a row decided to see how do the glitch and i did it myself, won them and left searching for another group without assholes. Bad luck. Fell again in the same group. QUit online frustrated.

Nintendo needs to fix this. They can

I was playing worldwide yesterday with people I know IRL and 4 anonymous. I didn't expect a 33yo acquaintance of mine would be [B]the only one[/B] to spam the Maka Wuhu and do the glitch!
I am 90% certain we were racing with kids also and only a 33yo dude was cheating, I fell sorry for him...

[QUOTE=Graphics Horse;34014061]I hope everyone appreciates the legitimate cloudbushing to the right of the start line on the piranha plant track.[/QUOTE]

I'm confused on this part.

Never played mario kart before. Is this game good?

[QUOTE=Wolfe;34018438]I'm confused on this part.[/QUOTE]
In Super Mario Bros., the cloud and bush sprites were the same; they just used a palette swap:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KQXud.jpg[/IMG]




Nintendo apparently paid homage to this bit of trivia by replicating the "cloudbush" in the Piranha Plant stage:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RD6zc.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Door2Dawn;34018660]Never played mario kart before. Is this game good?[/QUOTE]

Yes, if you know what to expect. Getting frustrated about items is part of the experience, so don't take it too seriously and you should have a great time.

[QUOTE=SecretMoblin;34019090]Nintendo apparently paid homage to this bit of trivia by replicating the "cloudbush" in the Piranha Plant stage:[/QUOTE]

That's hilarious. One of the things I love about Nintendo games is that they always do these little Easter eggs.

I was re-watching the Super Mario 3D Land SuperPlay video that Nintendo posted. I beat the game 100%, and I saw stuff that was entirely new to me. Like one part where if you kick a stone into a warp pipe, a 1up comes out. Who would even try that? And you can do it maybe once or twice in the whole game, but they put it in anyway.

[QUOTE=Dr Prob;34013409]I never do the glitch in community races or worldwides with people I "know". That includes friends or GAFers who join through the recently played list or whatever. Totally fine with finishing 6th 7th and 8th or whatever. It's Mario Kart, who cares?

[B]But alone in random WW rooms where people just pick it over and over, I'll do it faster and more efficiently than these useless cocksuckers until they start picking something else. And they do[/B].[/QUOTE]

This is true, some times there are like 3-5 players picking that course and doing the glitch but when you wipe their asses (doing the glitch :( ) and good skills they would either stop picking it or will leave the room (I have seen it at least 3 times).

I guess they will keep picking it for easy VRs, but when someone who knows his ways in mk destroys them in every waka wuhu race they stop or rage quit.


Also, [B]I love how some people rage at the blue shell[/B], is winning that important to you or enjoying the game? Besides not in every race you get blue shelled to death, I can usually eat one blue shell and still win. This game is like crack sadly I don't have a constant internet connection and will play online in short burst. I'm actually looking forward for some gaf community races, WW is far too easy (maybe because I only have like 2k VR) in the meantime I will keep playing time trails (some japanese ghosts are totally insane)

That cloudbush homage is AWESOME

[QUOTE=Ysiadmihi;34013412]Honestly though, it's just another problem with a game that should have been much better than it is. It's almost fitting that a lazy copy/paste job from Wii Sports Resort (one of TWO) should have a track ruining glitch.[/QUOTE]

Hold on, lazy copy-paste? There was no racing in Wii Sports Resort. The tracks were made for this game. I guess they probably used the island model from the flying game as a base, but that's kind of the point.

[QUOTE=Door2Dawn;34018660]Never played mario kart before. Is this game good?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Good for a first Mario Kart, and possibly my favorite MK.

Anyone playing?

[QUOTE=Amppelix;34022851]Hold on, lazy copy-paste? There was no racing in Wii Sports Resort. [/QUOTE]

There was cycle racing along the island road. I wouldn't say it was copy-pasted though.

[QUOTE=Phonomezer;34023013]Anyone playing?[/QUOTE]

Group of three here. Just waiting for now.

[QUOTE=Gospel;34023088]Group of three here. Just waiting for now.[/QUOTE]

Sweet, I'm in :)

Open lobby with 5 people!

[QUOTE=Phonomezer;34023215]Sweet, I'm in :)[/QUOTE]Great games!

Room open peeps. Three slots left.

Seems it left me behind...

I was wondering why you vanished at the track screen...

Back in the lobby!

Hrm, people need to stop starting games immediately upon entering. These are probably randoms though.

Well that was shitty; Wuhu spam and glitching >:(

It's time again! Whos up for some Mirror!?

how the hell someone just hit by a shell surpass my without boost is beyond me

EDIT: third time a fucking blue shell hits me as soon as I'm first. FUCK.

[QUOTE=kiryogi;34024487]It's time again! Whos up for some Mirror!?[/QUOTE]

I'm up for horribly failing here!

Got another lobby of five!

[QUOTE=SmithnCo;34025049]Got another lobby of five![/QUOTE]

Join the mirror lobby!

We got 3! Can we do 8?! Actually 5 would be nice XD

I got d/c from 150 so I joined mirror :D

It´s official, this is the [I]worst[/I] game ever.

Open group again in mirror!

This is the first time I went online with this, does it really not have a way to tell if a group is full? It says 1 group playing, I join, I get into an empty room. Is that 1 group full and it makes me start a second?

[QUOTE=Papercuts;34025696]This is the first time I went online with this, does it really not have a way to tell if a group is full? It says 1 group playing, I join, I get into an empty room. Is that 1 group full and it makes me start a second?[/QUOTE]

Not full but if it's started already then you can't join it until it's finished... The matchmaking here isn't the best unfortunately. But once you get things rolling, it's a blast.

[QUOTE=Papercuts;34025696]This is the first time I went online with this, does it really not have a way to tell if a group is full? It says 1 group playing, I join, I get into an empty room. Is that 1 group full and it makes me start a second?[/QUOTE]

If a group is playing you can't join with them, only waiting lobbies.

[QUOTE=Papercuts;34025696]This is the first time I went online with this, does it really not have a way to tell if a group is full? It says 1 group playing, I join, I get into an empty room. Is that 1 group full and it makes me start a second?[/QUOTE]

Every once in awhile it will throw you into the second race, but there seems to be no logic to how and when it happens.

Wow blue shell at the en d of the last lap. FUCK THIS SHIT :(

Thanks for clarifying the community stuff, makes sense I guess. Damn nintendo. :P

Annnnd, I fell off 2 times at the end of rainbow road and got knocked off a third. :(

Join mirror people!

I actually have no practice with mirror mode at all.