[QUOTE=frankie_baby;33457701]And as the ps3's first months showed there are a lot fewer of those type of people than anyone expected[/QUOTE]

The price isn't as extreme as the PS3 though. It will certainly struggle just like 3DS did in its first few months.

[QUOTE=frankie_baby;33457775]Kingdom hearts will no way sell a million in Japan alone[/QUOTE]
KH2 did and BBS wasn't far off (it actually did if you include it's Final Mix). I think it's fair to say there's at least [i]potential[/i] there.

I also wouldn't be surprised if stuff like Nintendogs + Cats or Girl's Mode 2 crawl past a million over the long haul either though. There's a lot of DS owners 3DS hasn't touched yet, and when they jump in I think we could see these sorts of games rising with the expanded base. I could also see OOT3D pulling a Mario 64DS, and slowly legging it to platinum.

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33457725]Future potential million sellers (announced games only) imo:

Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) spring 2012
Animal Crossing (Nintendo) 2012
Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix) 2012
Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) tba
Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) tba[/QUOTE]

No way for Kingdom Hearts, more in the 600-700k range.
More plausible Nintendogs + cats (in a decade).

Mario Tennis will probably have an online mode and be awesome. It could reach a million.

[QUOTE=frankie_baby;33457775]Kingdom hearts will no way sell a million in Japan alone[/QUOTE]

Maybe if the packaging read Kingdom Hearts III












DS

Instead of silly subtitle and no number.

[QUOTE=electroplankton;33457826]No way for Kingdom Hearts, more in the 600-700k range.
More plausible Nintendogs + cats (in a decade).[/QUOTE]

Maybe not that long for nintencats I can imagine it'll be picking up pretty well over xmas though not well enough we get numbers, might limp there by late next year

[QUOTE=marc^o^;33457832]Mario Tennis will probably have an online mode and be awesome. It could reach a million.[/QUOTE]

I think that one might too actually. Didn't MT64 sell a million in Japan?

[QUOTE=Dragon;33457790]The price isn't as extreme as the PS3 though. It will certainly struggle just like 3DS did in its first few months.[/QUOTE]3DS struggled until a huge price cut. Vita will need one just as much.

[QUOTE=allan-bh;33457544]Which 3DS game reaches 1 million first? Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 or Monster Hunter 3G?[/QUOTE]

Probably in this order... MK7, MH3rdG, SM3DL

how did nintendogs(as a franchise) die so quick?

[QUOTE=marc^o^;33457832]Mario Tennis will probably have an online mode and be awesome. It could reach a million.[/QUOTE]

According to garaph Mario Tennis on the N64 is the only Mario Sports game that even came close to selling a million (969,888 to be precise). I could see a new Mario Tennis selling really well in todays environment.

[QUOTE=Man God;33457857]Maybe if the packaging read Kingdom Hearts III












DS

Instead of silly subtitle and no number.[/QUOTE]
It reads [b]Kingdom Hearts 3[/b]D: Dream Drop Distance! lol

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33457948]I think that one might too actually. Didn't MT64 sell a million in Japan?[/QUOTE]

[N64] Mario Tennis 64 (Nintendo) - 213.422 / 833.908 / 25,59% 21/07/00

Seeing how much the Mario brand regained popularity, even with the mere sport spin-off titles...possible.

skyrim~ mk7~

[QUOTE=Mpl90;33457126][b]01./00. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 520,138 / NEW
[/b]

01./00. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 521.959 / NEW

Holy shit :lol[/QUOTE]

If you get all the charts handy, how did perform Wii sales-wise back then, compared to 3DS?
And when exactly did Tri launch, was it in Summer or Autumn perhaps?

[QUOTE=Gianni Merryman;33458029]If you get all the charts handy, how did perform Wii sales-wise back then, compared to 3DS?
And when exactly did Tri launch, was it in Summer or Autumn?[/QUOTE]

WII | 95,357 LTD: 8,288,417

It launched on 1st August 2009, two days counted like MH3G.

[QUOTE=idwl;33457969]how did nintendogs(as a franchise) die so quick?[/QUOTE]

One-hit wonder: sometimes it is impossible to replicate a success because based on conditions which are not always present. Anyway, Nintendogs saw a huge success in the West, while in Japan it sold well but not extremely well (barely 2mln copies, when Animal Crossing, Brain Training 2, Mario e Pokémon are all above 5mln). Anyway, it must be evaluated in the long-run, since it won't get a sequel anytime soon on 3DS and it will have the chance to sell until the end of the console lifetime.

Wow, I didn't realize that pink marshmallow was more popular in Japan! Kirby games do tend to feel more unique than Zelda, though. So maybe it isn't entirely shocking. Playing Mass Attack right now on my 3DS, very cool game.

nintendogs+cats was also a really lazy sequel. so disappointing.

[QUOTE=Gianni Merryman;33458029]
And when exactly did Tri launch, was it in Summer or Autumn perhaps?[/QUOTE]

Tri launched in summer (Aug I think).

EDIT: beaten

[QUOTE=idwl;33457969]how did nintendogs(as a franchise) die so quick?[/QUOTE]The game is merely prettier. It's more polished but has less interesting activities than the first (the obstacle course was the best part and it has been removed). Few people would recommend the 3DS version to someone who already has Nintendogs.

[QUOTE=idwl;33457969]how did nintendogs(as a franchise) die so quick?[/QUOTE]

It hasn't really died it was more of a mistimed release, it should've launched later (maybe this xmas) when the userbase was larger and there were more casuals, as it is its still chugging along consistently and will surely eventually hit a million maybe more

[QUOTE]04./00. [PS3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2011.12.08} (¥7.980) - 75.865 / NEW [/QUOTE]

Sorry Japan.

Fucking fuck, what am I seeing?
The Wii rises out of its slump, the 3DS kills everything else, 75% of the software chart is Nintendo, the PSP is selling in spite of the Vita's impending release, the triple punch on the 3DS is dominating, Skyward Sword bombing, Skyrim selling...

Madness.

[QUOTE=Mpl90;33458048]WII | 95,357 LTD: 8,288,417

It launched on 1st August 2009, two days counted like MH3G.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your prompt reply!

So Monster hunter tri did no effect Wii hardware sales, whereas conversely MH3G's attach rate is quite impressive!

So 75.865 users got a defective product, "it supplies me to an extreme degree with" a bit of sadness. So how can people be protected in this case?

Of course im assuming the games become as unplayable as they say.

now there only need to be the next Pokemon and game's closed

Okay, so reconsidering it all:

Guaranteed 3DS million sellers
-Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix)
-Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
-Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom)
-Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom)
-Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
-Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)

Potential/possible 3DS million sellers
-Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
-Mario Tennis (Nintendo)
-nintendogs + cats (Nintendo)
-Style Savvy (Nintendo)
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)


Does that seem fair? Anything I'm overlooking (lolIEGo)?

[QUOTE=Gianni Merryman;33458148]Thank you for your prompt reply!

So Monster hunter tri didd no effect Wii hardware sales, whereas conversely MH3G's attach rate is quite impressive![/QUOTE]
95K in August is a good number.
Also around that time Wii ecosystem began to fold in Japan.

[QUOTE]da fuk @ these charts

Some insanity going on all up in here.

Also, :lol @ DCharlie [/QUOTE]

not at 800k yet, don't count your bacon just yet






(you may count your bacon)

[QUOTE=pramath;33458140]Fucking fuck, what am I seeing?
The Wii rises out of its slump, the 3DS kills everything else, 75% of the software chart is Nintendo, the PSP is selling in spite of the Vita's impending release, the triple punch on the 3DS is dominating, Skyward Sword bombing, Skyrim selling...

Madness.[/QUOTE]

Yeah PSP selling a bunch heading into the Vita launch makes me wonder if that is a good or bad thing. Could just be the holiday bump though.

[QUOTE=frankie_baby;33458104]It hasn't really died it was more of a mistimed release, it should've launched later (maybe this xmas) when the userbase was larger and there were more casuals, as it is its still chugging along consistently and will surely eventually hit a million maybe more[/QUOTE]
I wonder if launching now also wouldn't have helped Layton?

[QUOTE=Mrbob;33458255]Yeah PSP selling a bunch heading into the Vita launch makes me wonder if that is a good or bad thing. Could just be the holiday bump though.[/QUOTE]

I don't know, wouldn't people be holding off for one week to buy the latest and greatest system instead of the PSP now?
If someone lives in Japan, what's the general mood regarding the Vita like?

[QUOTE=Refreshment.01;33458171]So 75.865 users got a defective product, it [B]feels [/B]me with a bit of sadness. So how can people be protected in this case?

Of course im assuming the games become as unplayable as they say.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ITwGx.png[/IMG]

wouldn't have thought 3d land would perform more like a 2d title.

just noticed SM3DL and Kirby bumps. looks like Mario's gonna stay on chart for a long time

[QUOTE=DCharlie;33458242]not at 800k yet, don't count your bacon just yet






(you may count your bacon)[/QUOTE]

Don't feel bad. You can always say that you forgot to take into account the growth of the franchise. MH has grown a 26% in sales since MH3 was released (3.4M -> 4.6M).

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33458223]Okay, so reconsidering it all:

Guaranteed 3DS million sellers
-Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix)
-Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
-Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom)
-Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom)
-Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
-Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)

Potential/possible 3DS million sellers
-Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
-Mario Tennis (Nintendo)
-nintendogs + cats (Nintendo)
-Style Savvy (Nintendo)
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)


Does that seem fair? Anything I'm overlooking (lolIEGo)?[/QUOTE]

What about Super Smash bros?
It will be its first time ever on a handheld console so it's something unprecedented, but Jump Superstar did quite well on DS, didn't it?

So what are the expectations for Inazuma Eleven 3DS? It's releasing this week, right?

[QUOTE=Gianni Merryman;33458459]What about Super Smash bros?
It will be its first time ever on a handheld console so it's something unprecedented, but Jump Superstar did quite well on DS, didn't it?[/QUOTE]

I forgot! I think it's probably a sure thing, depending on how Sora handles it.

[QUOTE=GCX;33458472]So what are the expectations for Inazuma Eleven 3DS? It's releasing this week, right?[/QUOTE]
400k shipment iirc, probably going to do like half that I think.

Stinkin Japanese. Buy Zelda x_x

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33458223]Okay, so reconsidering it all:

Guaranteed 3DS million sellers
-Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix)
-Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
-Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom)
-Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom)
-Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
-Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)

Potential/possible 3DS million sellers
-Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
-Mario Tennis (Nintendo)
-nintendogs + cats (Nintendo)
-Style Savvy (Nintendo)
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)


Does that seem fair? Anything I'm overlooking (lolIEGo)?[/QUOTE]

I demand Ace Attorney vs. Layton to be on the "guaranteed" list, because I want it to sell that much.

A 21% increase for 3D Land? Impressive.

And look @MonHun go.

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33458223]Okay, so reconsidering it all:

Guaranteed 3DS million sellers
-Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix)
-Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
-Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom)
-Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom)
-Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
-Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)

Potential/possible 3DS million sellers
-Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
-Mario Tennis (Nintendo)
-nintendogs + cats (Nintendo)
-Style Savvy (Nintendo)
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)


Does that seem fair? Anything I'm overlooking (lolIEGo)?[/QUOTE]

While it seems very PS3 list ish, adding whatever game The Pokémon Company is going to release next year is a pretty safe bet.

Seeing the ~50k difference between Famitsu and Media Create on TriG, i wonder how the 2nd week will look on both trackers.


[QUOTE=electroplankton;33457634]I'd say Mario Kart 7.[/QUOTE]
I think so too. Unless TriG gets a huge shipment soon :)

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6XVgj.png[/IMG]

last week for reference: [URL="http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png"]http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png[/URL]

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33457819]KH2 did and [U]BBS wasn't far off (it actually did if you include it's Final Mix).[/U] [/QUOTE]

You're probably confusing entries.

Famitsu, combining all releases:

KH - 1.48
KH2 - 1.58
KHBBS - 0.86

million units.

There sure were a lot of increases.
Seems the Kirby effect is in full swing.

Here we go again

[QUOTE=demonturkey;33457709]
OT: I remember Miyamoto saying the 3DS was going to receive a 3D Mario game and a 2D Mario game... did he actually state that they were separate games or was he being tongue-in-cheek about the 3D/2D nature of 3D Land?[/QUOTE]

Considering the last 2D Mario handheld game sold nearly 6 million. I think Nintendo would be extremely foolish to not release a 2D Mario on 3DS.

[QUOTE=Pocks;33459077][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6XVgj.png[/IMG]

last week for reference: [URL="http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png"]http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png[/URL][/QUOTE]

A perfect PacMan

[QUOTE=Pocks;33459077][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6XVgj.png[/IMG]

last week for reference: [URL="http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png"]http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png[/URL][/QUOTE]

Waka Waka

[QUOTE=Pocks;33459077][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6XVgj.png[/IMG]

last week for reference: [URL="http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png"]http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png[/URL][/QUOTE]

I'd love to see a reappearance of the [I]other[/I] pac-man charts.

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33458223]Okay, so reconsidering it all:

Guaranteed 3DS million sellers
-Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix)
-Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
-Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom)
-Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom)
-Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
-Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)

Potential/possible 3DS million sellers
-Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
-Mario Tennis (Nintendo)
-nintendogs + cats (Nintendo)
-Style Savvy (Nintendo)
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)


Does that seem fair? Anything I'm overlooking (lolIEGo)?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure Dragon Quest Monsters is a guaranteed million seller. It'll do well and it might reach a million, but it's pretty hard to say. It is a remake of a spinoff after all. The original only did 2 million and the recent DQM games have been in the 1.5M range so to expect it to do nearly as well as a new game or as a mainline remake is a bit optimistic. I'd guess more like in the 600-800k range

[QUOTE=Road;33459176]You're probably confusing entries.

Famitsu, combining all releases:

KH - 1.48
KH2 - 1.58
KHBBS - 0.86

million units.[/QUOTE]
Yikes! Okay, I was way off... I think I might've been thinking Dissidia maybe?

[QUOTE=Gianni Merryman;33458459]What about Super Smash bros?
It will be its first time ever on a handheld console so it's something unprecedented, but Jump Superstar did quite well on DS, didn't it?[/QUOTE]

Well, yeah, but that's a looooooooooong ways off.

[QUOTE=beril;33459746]I'm not sure Dragon Quest Monsters is a guaranteed million seller. It'll do well and it might reach a million, but it's pretty hard to say. It is a remake of a spinoff after all. The original only did 2 million and the recent DQM games have been in the 1.5M range so to expect it to do nearly as well as a new game or as a mainline remake is a bit optimistic. I'd guess more like in the 600-800k range[/QUOTE]

It's basically continuing on from Joker 2 in terms of monsters and mechanics, I expect pretty much the same fanbase to keep going with it. I'd also argue DQ4-6 DS aren't really remakes but conversions (like DQ1-3 GBC), though some have been based off remakes rather than the originals (1-3 GBC based off the SFC remakes, 4/5 DS based off the PS1/PS2 remakes).

If DQVII 3DS exists and it is a full remake (unlike the GBC/DS ones), I think it'll be HUGE. Maybe even 2m huge.

GO GUNDAM !

KEEP IT ON !!!!!

Skyward Sword :_(

I knew Zelda was more popular outside of Japan by a wide margin but that's just sad to see it drop off so quickly. Hopefully it picks up the closer we get to Christmas and perhaps after that.

Perhaps this is why Nintendo via Miyamoto is publicly talking about how Retro Studios might be a good fit to tackle the series at some point. Nintendo has tried to attract the Japanese gamer more and more with each version, at least for the consoles games, and it doesn't seem to be working. Even if handhelds are more popular then consoles other console games from Nintendo seem to do well. Maybe it's just Zelda in general. Or they don't like it on consoles. Perhaps to time consuming compared to other games. Rather be able to play it whenever? I assume that's part of why Monster Hunter became so popular (I know local multiplayer was a big part as well.) on the PSP compared to the original console versions. Where Ocarina of Time 3D ends up should be telling I think. Then the big test will be the new 3DS Zelda. If those don't do well then perhaps they need to stop focusing it's design on the Japanese market. Give it a more worldwide appeal since that is where it sells the most.



Edit: Reworded what I wanted to say better.

Could someone repost the HW totals please? I'm viewing from Secondapps and they're not visible to me. :(

I'd really appreciate it!

[QUOTE=Effect;33460443]Nintendo has tried to attract the Japanese gamer more and more with each version, at least for the consoles games, and it doesn't seem to be working. [/QUOTE]

I don't think think the artistic style has ever tried to cater directly to Japan, but rather appeal to both kids and adults, at least in the case for Wind Waker. If anything Twilight Princess appealed directly to the West.

[QUOTE=slaughterking;33456859]Looks like MonHan could actually reach 1 million before Mario Kart or 3D Land.[/QUOTE]

Not a chance. Mario Kart will win the race.

[QUOTE=Colonel Mustard;33460514]Could someone repost the HW totals please? I'm viewing from Secondapps and they're not visible to me. :(

I'd really appreciate it![/QUOTE]

Had the same issue earlier on my phone - here you go:

3DS 350.321
PSP 51.191
WII 46.018
PS3 44.661
NDS 6.630
360 3.211
PS2 1.268

[QUOTE=Chris1964;33460577]Not a chance. Mario Kart will win the race.[/QUOTE]

Even if Monster Hunter has a blue shell?

[QUOTE=cw_sasuke;33460590]Had the same issue earlier - here you go:

| 3DS | 350.321
| PSP # | 51.191
| WII | 46.018
| PS3 | 44.661
| NDS # | 6.630
| 360 | 3.211
| PS2 | 1.268[/QUOTE]Thank you! Much appreciated.

Expected huge 3DS sales. Big PSP numbers too. Crazy considering the imminent Vita launch.

[QUOTE=Colonel Mustard;33460672]Thank you! Much appreciated.

Expected huge 3DS sales. Big PSP numbers too. Crazy considering the imminent Vita launch.[/QUOTE]

Does it mean that consumers are crazy for Sony handhelds in general (ergo Vita will do wonderfully) or that consumers aren't that interested in the Vita (ergo opposite of other parenthetical)?

[QUOTE=Dr. Feel Good;33460535]I don't think think the artistic style has ever tried to cater directly to Japan, but rather appeal to both kids and adults, at least in the case for Wind Waker. If anything Twilight Princess appealed directly to the West.[/QUOTE]

No, SS definitely carries a lot of anime tropes which I found pretty striking in the intro section: Zelda is now a childhood friend who goes to school with you and lectures you about not taking things seriously, Link's "Rival" is a bully with a crush on her. It's not just the art style, there was a conscious effort to tweak the story and style to appeal to a Japanese audience but it just didn't hit the mark for whatever reason.

[QUOTE=GameplayWhore;33460851]Does it mean that consumers are crazy for Sony handhelds in general (ergo Vita will do wonderfully) or that consumers aren't that interested in the Vita (ergo opposite of other parenthetical)?[/QUOTE]

Well, how was ds doing before 3Ds was released?

Re: PSP/Vita, how have previous PS systems sold in the week before it's successor launched (ie: PS1 before PS2, PS2 before PS3)?

[QUOTE=EloquentM;33460939]Well, how was ds doing before 3Ds was released?[/QUOTE]
Hard to compare due to time of year when 3DS launched. The December before, DS was selling more than PSP is now though.

Garpah is just a few clicks away:

[url]http://garaph.info/weeklyoverview.php//week/2000-02-21[/url]

Just change the date.

Has Sony said how many Vita systems will be available at launch?

[QUOTE=Road;33461159]Garpah is just a few clicks away:

[url]http://garaph.info/weeklyoverview.php//week/2000-02-21[/url]

Just change the date.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I'd forgotten PS2 was a spring launch, that makes any comparison there iffy as well. PS3 might be better, but it launched earlier than I remembered too (mixed it and Wii up I guess).

[QUOTE=Road;33461159]Garpah is just a few clicks away:

[url]http://garaph.info/weeklyoverview.php//week/2000-02-21[/url]

Just change the date.[/QUOTE]

PoS 18,841

N-Gage come out Japan, and it sold that much?

[spoiler]:p[/spoiler]

[QUOTE='[Nintex];33457427']I noticed Nintendo has a neat holiday commercial:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nqW72aMsI[/url]

But even they ignore Zelda lol.[/QUOTE]

That is just sad :/

[QUOTE=GameplayWhore;33460851]Does it mean that consumers are crazy for Sony handhelds in general (ergo Vita will do wonderfully) or that consumers aren't that interested in the Vita (ergo opposite of other parenthetical)?[/QUOTE]I don't believe it's indicative of either, really. The holiday season, coupled with the fact that the PSP still gets new software would account for the hardware spike. In my opinion, at least.

Nintendo effectively killed the original DS when the 3DS launched, something Sony doesn't seem to be doing with the Vita/PSP. We'll only be able to assess either of those points after the holiday season.

[QUOTE=BurntPork;33461314]PoS 18,841

N-Gage come out Japan, and it sold that much?

[spoiler]:p[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

What in the world is PoS stand for?

[QUOTE=Dr. Feel Good;33461576]What in the world is PoS stand for?[/QUOTE]

PocketStation

[QUOTE=Dr. Feel Good;33461576]What in the world is PoS stand for?[/QUOTE]

Pocket Station

Slow

[QUOTE=Chris1964;33461627]Pocket Station

Slow[/QUOTE]

I had no idea it put up respectable numbers like that. Bizarre.

[QUOTE=Dr. Feel Good;33461576]What in the world is PoS stand for?[/QUOTE]

Piece of Shit.

[SPOILER]I know, too easy...I couldn't resist :( [/SPOILER]

EDIT: And you had your answer even two times in a row.

[QUOTE=Pocks;33459077][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6XVgj.png[/IMG]

last week for reference: [URL="http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png"]http://i.imgur.com/zCxoC.png[/URL][/QUOTE]

Brings back memories.

3DS d-d-d-d-d-DOMINATION

and Zelda is dead as shit. Retro Zelda confirmed.

Looks like SM3DL is going to sprint past 1m rather than crawl like the Galaxy twins.

[QUOTE=Anth0ny;33462116]3DS d-d-d-d-d-DOMINATION

and Zelda is dead as shit. Retro Zelda confirmed.[/QUOTE]

Time to bench Zelda, sadly.

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33458223]Okay, so reconsidering it all:

Guaranteed 3DS million sellers
-Animal Crossing (Nintendo)
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix)
-Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
-Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom)
-Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom)
-Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
-Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)

Potential/possible 3DS million sellers
-Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
-Mario Tennis (Nintendo)
-nintendogs + cats (Nintendo)
-Style Savvy (Nintendo)
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)


Does that seem fair? Anything I'm overlooking (lolIEGo)?[/QUOTE]

Here's the same list with the Vita :

Is Skyward Sword tracking the same as Twilight Princess still?

[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33458533]400k shipment iirc, probably going to do like half that I think.[/QUOTE]

you mean first week, right? ;)

[QUOTE=saichi;33463121]you mean first week, right? ;)[/QUOTE]

maybe it well end up selling 800k! nah that was another game.

[QUOTE=Boken;33462994]Time to bench Zelda, sadly.[/QUOTE]

Nope. It's just like this in Japan. Though I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to do that because they do make decisions with only Japan in mind regardless if a franchise (or situation is different) is more popular and sells more outside of it.

[QUOTE=French;33463066]Here's the same list with the Vita :[/QUOTE]

However, the Vita does seem to have a good, healthy variety of lower and mid tier games that can sell 40k-300k, depending.

What it really does lack (as you sarcastically referenced here) is the 500k+ sellers, let alone 1M+ sellers. Speaking purely of Japan, there just doesn't seem to be very many big games coming to the Vita in the near future or on the distant horizon.

I think this will be an interesting case study of software sales. I personally believe that the vast majority of system hardware is sold on the backs of the top 5% of games, with the huge number of 150k sellers or 50k sellers subsisting off of users who buy the system for (for example) Final Fantasy, then also buy Tales of ____, because it's a similar type of game and they already have the system. If I am correct, then the Vita may struggle; if I were Sony, I'd trade every single one of those good-but-not-great sellers for a single great seller if I had the chance.

If I am wrong, however -- and I very well could be! -- then the Vita's success will be informative. It will suggest that a wide variety of AA games can push a system even when the AAA games are lacking.

[QUOTE=Opiate;33463445]However, the Vita does seem to have a good, healthy variety of lower and mid tier games that can sell 40k-300k, depending.

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Beside HSG 6 and mayyybe DW, which game could possibly reach the 200-300k range?

To be quite honest, I see nothing onthe Vita right now (at least in Japan) to drive sales.

[QUOTE=Fularu;33464215]Beside HSG 6 and mayyybe DW, which game could possibly reach the 200-300k range?

To be quite honest, I see nothing onthe Vita right now (at least in Japan) to drive sales.[/QUOTE]


After seeing Uncharted performance on PS3 in Japan, I would adds UC:Vita to the list of titles that could possibly see the 250k range.

[QUOTE=Cipherr;33464268]After seeing Uncharted performance on PS3 in Japan, I would adds UC:Vita to the list of titles that could possibly see the 250k range.[/QUOTE]

It sold 150k on the PS3 what makes you think it would do 100k more on the brand new Vita?

[QUOTE=Fularu;33464215]Beside HSG 6 and mayyybe DW, which game could possibly reach the 200-300k range?

To be quite honest, I see nothing onthe Vita right now (at least in Japan) to drive sales.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps Persona 4 the Golden? How did P3P perform?

We hardly knew yee Vita :(

But yeah sony badly needs "that game" that can sell 500K+ in Japan.

[QUOTE=jeremy1456;33464454]Perhaps Persona 4 the Golden? How did P3P perform?[/QUOTE]

P3P did 210k (best and regular releases combined), there's no chance of P4P doing 250k. (for reference Persona 4 did 315k (regular and best combined) on PS2)

[QUOTE=Fularu;33464433]It sold 150k on the PS3 what makes you think it would do 100k more on the brand new Vita?[/QUOTE]

It's a handheld system. Lots of franchises do more on handhelds than they do on consoles in Japan. It isn't a slam dunk (because the Vita is a new system, as you note) but it does strike me as a possibility.

Regardless, the discussion is moot. I said low to mid range; I also said 40k-300k. Then, for some reason, you narrowed that down to a discussion exclusively about mid range games, and exclusively about games doing 200-300k.

My point was that Vita has a variety of games that can do 40k-300k and be appealing "AA" franchises -- but these are typically viewed as supplemental games to flesh out a library, rather than system sellers in their own right. At least, that's my theory. Vita will be a good living expirement to test that theory.