|
[QUOTE='[Nintex];33485001']if you can think you can bomb this chocobo
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4[/url] bombaaaaa[/QUOTE] This is the worst Chocobo theme rendition and I usually love heavy arrangements like this. |
[QUOTE=Ridleyscott;33480190]N64 sold in more regions and sold more quickly due to the 3D novelty but it bombed later. OoT came out with no competition and when the hype was still in. Hence it did well. The video-game market had already been well reestablished. Zelda and the initial NES games had to overcome the stigma from the preceding video-game crash in the early 80s. Its not really comparable. For the time [B]LoZ kicked dick - almost 7 million (we don't know the real numbers)[/B] for an action/RPG. The only other games like that were Nerdy computer games that weren't popular. Then its sequel had people driving all over the damn place just to get it since there was a shortage. Its sales were gimped due to the chip shortage. OoT didn't even have to do any work, it sold because of the ground-work laid by the originals, the 3D hype and no competition.
[/QUOTE] Um... [IMG][URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/graphhm.png/][IMG]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8435/graphhm.png[/IMG][/URL][/IMG] |
[QUOTE=AMoreHumbleSquare;33489145]Um...
[IMG][URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/graphhm.png/][IMG]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8435/graphhm.png[/IMG][/URL][/IMG][/QUOTE] Which color belongs to whom? |
[QUOTE=Arsenic;33489334]Which color belongs to whom?[/QUOTE]
Uh... Sarcasm? |
[QUOTE=Arsenic;33489334]Which color belongs to whom?[/QUOTE]
Red is Japan. |
Damn yo, Skywardu Swaarad flopped like a dolphin.
|
[QUOTE=-Pyromaniac-;33489668]Damn yo, Skywardu Swaarad flopped like a dolphin.[/QUOTE]
look i told people zeldas new hairstyle is dumb and look what happened |
To put the FF debut-comparison topic in perspective:
[IMG][URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/graph1p.jpg/][IMG]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5044/graph1p.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/IMG] |
[quote=Gravijah;33489773]look i told people zeldas new hairstyle is dumb and look what happened[/quote]
yeah man I always knew motion controlz sucked too! |
[QUOTE=Kandinsky;33488157]Yeah this, wait for actual reports/numbers people!.[/QUOTE]
Why wait for them? Retailers talk for a slow start. Inazuma the same. |
[QUOTE=Chris1964;33490053]Why wait for them? Retailers talk for a slow start.
Inazuma the same.[/QUOTE] Inazuma a bit expected, but it can recover a lot in the weekend, since it's a game that doesn't have to rely on the short term, being a bit a "casual" game, especially compared to all the other RPGs. ...And its rise could be even better since 3DS will probably see high weekend sales. About FFXIII-2...eh, expected as well. |
[QUOTE=Ridleyscott;33479403]No more OoT![/QUOTE]
If anything, isn't the lesson of this year that OOT sells more in Japan than something else? [img]http://garaph.info/linecomparegamejp.php//dayend/150/width/500/height/300/gid-0/5138/title/5138+-+The+Legend+of+Zelda%3A+Ocarina+of+Time+3D+-+3DS[/img] EDIT: To compare to other portable ports. [img]http://garaph.info/linecomparegamejp.php//daydatemode/0/sum/1/perc/0/html/0/gid-0/1568/abb-0/GBA+Zelda+I/gid-1/1630/abb-1/GBA+Zelda+II/gid-2/1185/abb-2/GBA+LTTP/gid-3/5138/abb-3/3DS+OOT[/img] |
[QUOTE=Chris1964;33490053]Why wait for them? Retailers talk for a slow start.
Inazuma the same.[/QUOTE] Still, slow start does not necessarily mean bomba nor the kind of talk we are getting in this thread regarding XIII-2 :/ |
Well, from the famitsu article posted earlier...
[IMG][URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/ffxiii2u.jpg/][IMG]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4456/ffxiii2u.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/IMG] There's a couple dozen lined up. Would be nice to get some reports on the situation two years ago by comparison. |
[QUOTE=BurntPork;33489475]Uh... Sarcasm?[/QUOTE]
Skyward Sword numbers threw me off. I could have sworn they were higher in Japan |
[QUOTE=Kandinsky;33490466]Still, slow start does not necessarily mean bomba nor the kind of talk we are getting in this thread regarding XIII-2 :/[/QUOTE]
Less than 600k is bomba. [IMG]http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/DealWithIt/bieberdealwithit.gif[/IMG] |
[url]http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B005LML9ZC/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP[/url]
24% off MHTriG, and this time sold by Amazon.jp themself. Bomba?! Kidding hehe :P |
[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33483988]So maybe DCharlie's 800k bomba bin prediction will come true, only he got the game wrong. ;)[/QUOTE]
Ok, I laughed at this one. Well played [IMG]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4738/01laugh.gif[/IMG] |
[QUOTE=test_account;33496241][url]http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B005LML9ZC/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP[/url]
24% off MHTriG, and this time sold by Amazon.jp themself. Bomba?! Kidding hehe :P[/QUOTE] DCharlie and French were right!?! D: This is it for 3DS. It'll be discontinued next week... |
Seeing as amazon is being mentioned again, apart from a few hours earlier mh has been above ff most of the time since ff came out
|
[QUOTE=test_account;33496241][url]http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B005LML9ZC/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP[/url]
24% off MHTriG, and this time sold by Amazon.jp themself. Bomba?! Kidding hehe :P[/QUOTE] giga bomba |
Media Create:
MH3 - 325k pre-orders MH3G - 444k pre-orders [360] Skyrim - 91.12% sell-through. |
[QUOTE=BurntPork;33496358]DCharlie and French were right!?! D:
This is it for 3DS. It'll be discontinued next week...[/QUOTE] 3DS more like 3DreamcaSt. Nintendo going third party! |
[QUOTE=Kenka;33486009]A post about the actual sales of this week, hurrah ! Yeah, I overlooked it but it is nice to see Namco actually reach their own expectations. Didn't end up into another Namco x Capcom-like projection, he he.[/QUOTE]For a game as good as Gundam Extreme VS is, even with it's arcade popularity, that pricing could have made a big impact on its sell-through. Not bad for Namco at all. I wonder how many total units the game has sold in both Japan and Asia so far.
|
[QUOTE=Road;33498491]Media Create:
MH3 - 325k pre-orders MH3G - 444k pre-orders [360] Skyrim - 91.12% sell-through.[/QUOTE] Capcom really shipped 1 million MH3 with only 325K pre-orders? lol. |
[QUOTE=cvxfreak;33500046]Capcom really shipped 1 million MH3 with only 325K pre-orders? lol.[/QUOTE]
Same as XIII-2 essentially? |
[QUOTE]DCharlie and French were right!?! D:
This is it for 3DS. It'll be discontinued next week... [/QUOTE] mentioned this yesterday in another thread (the amazon/street price drop), was told my anecdotal evidence wasn't believable and contrary to others. Bath of tears. Pills and vodka. A night alone. :( :( :( |
Am i alone in finding 'bomba' annoying as a made up word?
|
[QUOTE=Timbuktu;33500443]Am i alone in finding 'bomba' annoying as a made up word?[/QUOTE]
Nah, it's as irritating as fuck and one of the reasons the media-create threads top out at 200 replies outside of system releases. |
FFXIII-2 faces an uphill battle. Releasing a sequel to a game many people were disappointed in wasn't exactly the best idea.
|
[QUOTE=Timbuktu;33500443]Am i alone in finding 'bomba' annoying as a made up word?[/QUOTE]
It's not really a made up word, [URL="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bomba"]you know[/URL]. |
[QUOTE=Timbuktu;33500443]Am i alone in finding 'bomba' annoying as a made up word?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rQIVMtm1E[/url] |
[QUOTE=Kagari;33500762]FFXIII-2 faces an uphill battle. Releasing a sequel to a game many people were disappointed in wasn't exactly the best idea.[/QUOTE]
It's not like they had a lot of options on the table. Yes, it's a bad decision, but it was pretty much an [i]inevitable[/i] bad decision after all the other screwups they made over the course of this generation backing them into a corner. |
[QUOTE=Kagari;33500762]FFXIII-2 faces an uphill battle. Releasing a sequel to a game many people were disappointed in wasn't exactly the best idea.[/QUOTE]
well thank god ffxiii-3 will fix all that. |
[QUOTE=Pureauthor;33501951]It's not like they had a lot of options on the table.
Yes, it's a bad decision, but it was pretty much an [i]inevitable[/i] bad decision after all the other screwups they made over the course of this generation backing them into a corner.[/QUOTE] They can also hope to win back some interest in the franchise, assuming FF13-2 is a good game and has positive word of mouth. |
[QUOTE=Kagari;33500762]FFXIII-2 faces an uphill battle. Releasing a sequel to a game many people were disappointed in wasn't exactly the best idea.[/QUOTE]
duckroll said only trolls were disappointed in it and I believed him since I liked it :( |
[QUOTE=Road;33498491]Media Create:
MH3 - 325k pre-orders MH3G - 444k pre-orders [360] Skyrim - 91.12% sell-through.[/QUOTE] Clearly they under shipped this time. They should have followed MH3 example and added 200K to the preorders and shipped that amount. |
[B]Dengeki[/B]
01./00. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (Ľ5.800) - [B]525,138 / NEW [/B] [url]http://news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html[/url] |
I think the undershipping is gonna bite them in the ass, because from now until the end of the year, Mario Kart 7 is gonna be the big seller. I don't see MH3G having legs because of MK's popularity.
|
[QUOTE=Jonnyram;33504350]I think the undershipping is gonna bite them in the ass, because from now until the end of the year, Mario Kart 7 is gonna be the big seller. I don't see MH3G having legs because of MK's popularity.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why both can't have legs. |
[QUOTE=onipex;33504510]I don't see why both can't have legs.[/QUOTE]Seriously?
One's a popular game to play in schools while the other is a popular game to play in schools. No friction there at all. |
[QUOTE=AMoreHumbleSquare;33490807]Well, from the famitsu article posted earlier...
[IMG][URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/ffxiii2u.jpg/][IMG]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4456/ffxiii2u.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/IMG] There's a couple dozen lined up. Would be nice to get some reports on the situation two years ago by comparison.[/QUOTE] I was there. That was the line to get into the countdown event. Granted, most people bought the game then and there, but by no means did everyone in there (including myself) buy the title. |
[QUOTE=Kagari;33500762]FFXIII-2 faces an uphill battle. Releasing a sequel to a game many people were disappointed in wasn't exactly the best idea.[/QUOTE]
Yup. I have almost zero interest in FF13-2 after playing FF13 for about 10 hours and giving up. |
[QUOTE=cvxfreak;33504589]I was there. That was the line to get into the countdown event. Granted, most people bought the game then and there, but by no means did everyone in there (including myself) buy the title.[/QUOTE]
but everyone was there for Yuko! |
[QUOTE=Road;33498491]Media Create:
MH3 - 325k pre-orders MH3G - 444k pre-orders [360] Skyrim - 91.12% sell-through.[/QUOTE] And also brutal comebacks on 3DS Nintendogs 24th Pokemon 41st Zelda 48th Two things 1)last week's Famitsu data reported a great increase for Rocket Heroes 3, which made it back to 25th position, while for Media Create...it wasn't even in top 50. Considering how the games from this DQ derivative brand behave, we could probably see it again in top 30. Different trackers are different indeed :lol 2) but no tracker difference can make up for the absence in top 50 of PES 2012, completely destroyed by MH, at this point :lol Seeing how much high are the numbers, it could have had a Wiiesque debut (7-8k)...and it could have legs. But, however, great job again, Konami! |
On a side note I wanna ask you guys one thing: if FFXIII-2 doesn't sell well, how much your sure it's related to XIII's output and how more related to japanese players loosing interest in home console games? Afterall, Skyward Sword too had low sales and was already a sequel of a great game and even better than the previous one. Ni No Kuni had a bad destiny too. Monster Hunter tri on Wii too didn't achieve the same success of portable versions. And so on.
The point I make then is easy: maybe it's not FF loosing fans, it's japanese players that want their saga to move on portables like Dragon Quest did. |
[QUOTE=Perfo;33507116]On a side note I wanna ask you guys one thing: if FFXIII-2 doesn't sell well, how much your sure it's related to XIII's output and how more related to japanese players loosing interest in home console games? Afterall, Skyward Sword too had low sales and was already a sequel of a great game and even better than the previous one. Ni No Kuni had a bad destiny too. Monster Hunter tri on Wii too didn't achieve the same success of portable versions. And so on.
The point I make then is easy: maybe it's not FF loosing fans, it's japanese players that want their saga to move on portables like Dragon Quest did.[/QUOTE] I think, japanese gamers respond to stimuli like all other gamers in the world. Advertise in famitsu, have a demo, show high production values and a fun gameplay premise and you are set. There's not much you can do, regardless of whether a game is on a handheld or a home console. |
Monster Hunter did worse than the Wii game on home consoles before Japan went all handheld to this extent so I don't think that's relevant.
It's just a special case since it exploded when it went portable despite being a PS2 game previously so, it's the social aspect that sells it. Ni No Kuni doesn't count either since Level 5 games often bomb, I think, while the DS Ni No Kuni game bombed badly too. |
[QUOTE=Jonnyram;33504585]Seriously?
One's a popular game to play in schools while the other is a popular game to play in schools. No friction there at all.[/QUOTE] 2 different genre. And do u know MH is way more popular than MK , right? |
[QUOTE=Perfo;33507116]
The point I make then is easy: maybe it's not FF loosing fans, it's japanese players that want their saga to move on portables like Dragon Quest did.[/QUOTE] We have seen games being successful on the PS3 pretty recently so I don't there's a sudden lack of interest in console release. Ni No Kuni failed for a few reasons imo... It's targeted at kids on a console not really populated by them, it's by Level-5 after 2 very mediocre ps3 rpgs, it wasn't clearly different in content compared to the DS game... I think FF XIII soured a lot people and they're not interested in exploring that world further. It's also starring characters that weren't major actors in the first game. (On the other hand FF X is one of the most beloved game in the series and FF X-2 starred its most popular character). [QUOTE="Alextended"]Ni No Kuni doesn't count either since Level 5 games often bomb, I think, while the DS Ni No Kuni game bombed badly too.[/QUOTE] Not really, until recently most of their game were pretty successful. And Ni No Kuni DS didn't bomb, it sold more than 550k(that's huge for a new IP). But it was vastly overshipped (kind of like Mh Tri) |
Oh, I thought it did much less for some reason. What other successful games did they make on their own (so not some Dragon Quest)?
I know WKC did well but don't know of another. Edit: wait, they have insane popular stuff like Inazuma too right? Maybe I had a brain fart and confused them with another... Anyway, there are games that do well when handled well, see the Tales of games on PS3, Sengoku Basara 3, and others. But really, what JRPG for example, on a home console, could possibly appeal to people as much as DQIX did? X could have, alas it's an MMORPG now. |
[QUOTE=Alextended;33507259]Oh, I thought it did much less for some reason. What other successful games did they make on their own (so not some Dragon Quest)?
I know WKC did well but don't know of another. Edit: wait, they have insane popular stuff like Inazuma too right? Maybe I had a brain fart and confused them with another...[/QUOTE] Inazuma and Layton yeah. The original LBX on the PSP did close to 400k (or more, I don't remember) too. |
[QUOTE=Perfo;33507116]On a side note I wanna ask you guys one thing: if FFXIII-2 doesn't sell well, how much your sure it's related to XIII's output and how more related to japanese players loosing interest in home console games? Afterall, Skyward Sword too had low sales and was already a sequel of a great game and even better than the previous one. Ni No Kuni had a bad destiny too. Monster Hunter tri on Wii too didn't achieve the same success of portable versions. And so on.
The point I make then is easy: maybe it's not FF loosing fans, it's japanese players that want their saga to move on portables like Dragon Quest did.[/QUOTE] Tales of Xillia sold extremely well, so I don't think there's any absence of people wanting to play RPGs on consoles. |
[QUOTE=Erethian;33507891]Tales of Xillia sold extremely well[/QUOTE]
It's rare anyway a success like that. And I was not speaking only of jRPGs though. All console games I "think" sell less in this generation in Japan compared to portables. Do we have total sales for software in Japan, PS3 vs DS vs PSP? I'd be curious to see if there's really a big difference in that. |
[b][u]Dengeki Sales, Dec 05 - 11, 2011[/u][/b] (Week 50)
01. (__) [B] [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom) - 525,138 / 525,138 [/B] 02. (01) [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 179,757 / 602,216 [i](-57%)[/i] 03. (03) [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) - 88,157 / 713,503 [i](+20%)[/i] 04. (__) [B] [PS3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda) - 76,271 / 76,271 [/B] 05. (02) [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 63,940 / 399,830 [i](-81%)[/i] 06. (__) [B] [PS3] Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Tenkaichi (Bandai Namco) - 45,050 / 45,050 [/B] 07. (__) [B] [NDS] Magician's Quest: Osharena Mahoutsukai (Konami) - 44,324 / 44,324 [/B] 08. (07) [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) - 41,024 / 318,225 [i](+62%)[/i] 09. (__) [B] [360] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda) - 32,364 / 32,364 [/B] 10. (__) [B] [PSP] Toaru Kagaku no Railgun (ASCII Media Works) - 31,448 / 31,448 [/B] 11. (17) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 30,367 / ? [i](+88%)[/i] 12. (15) [WII] Just Dance Wii (Nintendo) - 29,765 / 278,042 [i](+66%)[/i] 13. (__) [B] [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 29,519 / 29,519 [/B] 14. (__) [B] [NDS] Metal Max 2: Reloaded (Kadokawa Games) - 29,400 / 29,400 [/B] 15. (16) [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World (Pokemon Co.) - 25,929 / 112,458 [i](+56%)[/i] 16. (05) [WII] The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo) - 21,859 / 258,081 [i](-36%)[/i] 17. (21) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 21,747 / ? 18. (12) [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle! 2 New World (Bandai Namco) - 21,212 / 190,247 [i](+9%)[/i] 19. (13) [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience - Boost (Level 5) - 20,606 / 102,930 [i](+6%)[/i] 20. (18) [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) - 20,127 / 69,250 [i](+27%)[/i] *ST: Sell-through => estimated copies shipped. [U]Other software (first week / LTD):[/U] 2009-08-01 [WII] Monster Hunter Tri (Capcom) - 527,000 / 1,099,000 [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G - 85~90% sell-through in almost every shop. [3DS] Hardware - 357,000 (+73.5%) / 3.26 million LTD. [url]http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/439/439442/[/url] [url]http://megalodon.jp/2011-1216-1855-57/news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html[/url] [URL=http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33310646&postcount=518]Week 49: 11-28~12-04[/URL] |
[QUOTE=Perfo;33507925]It's rare anyway a success like that. And I was not speaking only of jRPGs though. All console games I "think" sell less in this generation in Japan compared to portables. Do we have total sales for software in Japan, PS3 vs DS vs PSP? I'd be curious to see if there's really a big difference in that.[/QUOTE]
If you're talking about total software sales the DS in its peak years destroys everything else. But if we're talking about mainline Final Fantasy titles, those can still do well on a console, and arguably the kind of experience that people look for from the series are more easily achieved on a console. |
[QUOTE=Road;33507961]
[3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G - 85~90% sell-through in almost every shop. [/QUOTE] Alright, so we have had a 521/.9 = 580k first shipment ? Or does this number include the restock that occured quickly after launch ? |
[QUOTE=Road;33507961][U]Other software (first week / LTD):[/U]
2009-08-01 [WII] Monster Hunter Tri (Capcom) - 527,000 / 1,099,000 [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G - 85~90% sell-through in almost every shop. [3DS] Hardware - 357,000 (+73.5%) / 3.26 million LTD.[/QUOTE] Spookily close to Tri's FW sales, but clearly with a far, far better ST. It sounds like a major restock went out over the last day or so, so the question now is whether it's going to perform like Tri and hit ~750-800k before slumping and crawling to a million, or whether it will have the legs of its PSP cousins. I still think Capcom should exceed their 1.2 million shipment estimate, but this coming week should be the decider - the game will be restocked, we're hitting the height of the Christmas period and the system is popular. If it's going to do better than Tri, we'll see the signs next week. |
Happy about this:
14. (__) [NDS] [B]Metal Max 2: Reloaded[/B] (Kadokawa Games) - 29,400 / 29,400 The third one went to sell roughly 80k copies, and these results are way higher than Metal Saga on both DS and GBA. Hope the series will continue somewhere since there are the conditions to do that. |
[QUOTE=Cosmonaut X;33508368]Spookily close to Tri's FW sales, but clearly with a far, far better ST.
It sounds like a major restock went out over the last day or so, so the question now is whether it's going to perform like Tri and hit ~750-800k before slumping and crawling to a million, or whether it will have the legs of its PSP cousins. I still think Capcom should exceed their 1.2 million shipment estimate, but this coming week should be the decider - the game will be restocked, we're hitting the height of the Christmas period and the system is popular. If it's going to do better than Tri, we'll see the signs next week.[/QUOTE] It's going to crush Tri. |
[QUOTE=Nuclear Muffin;33508400]It's going to crush Tri.[/QUOTE]
I would hope so - it has far more going for it in terms of platform, launch period etc. - but I've seen so many sales surprises over the past year or two that I'm no longer prepared to be so certain. I think DCharlie is right in his interpretation of the appeal of the game to the MH fanbase, though wrong in his conclusions about where that will leave sales, but I think we need at least one more week's data to get a real idea of what's going to happen. [QUOTE=allan-bh;33508444]PS Vita first shipment may top 700k [URL="http://andriasang.com/comze0/vita_shipments/"]http://andriasang.com/comze0/vita_shipments/[/URL][/QUOTE] Ah, finally. Will be interesting to see how things go here... |
[QUOTE=Kenka;33508357]Alright, so we have had a 521/.9 = 580k first shipment ? Or does this number include the restock that occured quickly after launch ?[/QUOTE]
The shipments numbers trackers estimate aren't necessarily the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. shipment. They estimate how many copies were available on stores and how many were sold by the end of that week (then, they just divide one number by the other). It could have been that the first shipment for MH3G was 600k or that it was 420k and got a second shipment. We can't be 100% sure just from the sell-through number. Also, since Dengeki was more vague about the ST in this case, I didn't make any extrapolation. But using 87.5% (the average between 85% and 90%), the first week shipment would be 600k. We'll probably only have better info with the MC White Paper released in 2012. |
[QUOTE=allan-bh;33508444]PS Vita first shipment may top 700k
[URL="http://andriasang.com/comze0/vita_shipments/"]http://andriasang.com/comze0/vita_shipments/[/URL][/QUOTE] Alright. Sounds like a good start to begin with. |
[QUOTE=allan-bh;33508444]PS Vita first shipment may top 700k
[URL="http://andriasang.com/comze0/vita_shipments/"]http://andriasang.com/comze0/vita_shipments/[/URL][/QUOTE] Sounds good! |
Best debut in Japan is PS2 with 630K (famitsu) I believe.
|
[QUOTE=Road;33508482]I didn't make any extrapolation. But using 87.5% (the average between 85% and 90%), the first week shipment would be 600k. We'll probably only have better info with the MC White Paper released in 2012.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the explanation in your post. I hope we can witness a maximal 50% drop rate each week until the end of the holidays and see its sales level off 20k for the rest of the winter. In this comfortable scenario, it could reach 1.5M easily. I don't see it go further though. Recall me please : the game has no online but it has local multi, right ? How limited is that compared to MHP3 ? |
I'm going to split your first post out for a new thread in a moment.
I hope you don't mind. :P I'll leave the rest in here though. |
[QUOTE=Kenka;33508529]Thanks for the explanation in your post. I hope we can witness a maximal 50% drop rate each week until the end of the holidays and see its sales level off 20k for the rest of the winter. In this comfortable scenario, it could reach 1.5M easily. I don't see it go further though.
Recall me please : the game has no online but it has local multi, right ? How limited is that compared to MHP3 ?[/QUOTE] MHP3 didn't have online either, unless you count adhoc party. |
[QUOTE=Jonnyram;33504585]Seriously?
One's a popular game to play in schools while the other is a popular game to play in schools. No friction there at all.[/QUOTE] Previous Mario Karts and Monster Hunters coexisted leggily. I don't see why it would be much worse now that it's more convenient to supplement one with the other by taking up an additional cubic centimeter of pocket space. |
[B]FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 (this week biggest release) [/B]
[url]http://www.true-gaming.net/home/52609/[/url] [url]http://www.true-gaming.net/home/52582/[/url] [B]more releases for the week[/B] [url]http://www.true-gaming.net/home/52595/[/url] |
[QUOTE=king zell;33508829][B]FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 (this week biggest release) [/B]
[url]http://www.true-gaming.net/home/52609/[/url] [url]http://www.true-gaming.net/home/52582/[/url] [B]more releases for the week[/B] [url]http://www.true-gaming.net/home/52595/[/url][/QUOTE] Mashallah. But where are the queues ? |
[QUOTE=Kenka;33508849]Mashallah. But where are the queues ?[/QUOTE]
Yesss, DCharlie led me to believe more queues = more sales greater than 800k! FFXIII sold a little more than 1.7mil in japan, right? XIII-2 will probably break a million, but is FF still a huge draw in Japan? And by that I mean do people go nuts for it, not will people buy it. |
Looks like 3DS finally caught up with DS first year trend. Really interesting complete shift from launch aligned PSP performance to DS performance actually.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JwcFL.png[/IMG] It'll be a big ask for it to keep up with that pace though, since the DS holiday season is coming up. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gQti3.png[/IMG] It all hinges on how Monster Hunter continues to push hardware in the first few months of the new year. |
Very promising first shipment.
|
[QUOTE=slaughterking;33509061]Very promising first shipment.[/QUOTE]
here's to a successful handheld gaming gen! |
So next week will be the last for predictions this year, there are a few interesting software releases so I think we'll do them and no hardware or older software. Is it okay or do everyone want pissing contest entries (MH3G 3rd week vs FFXIII-2 2nd, 3DS vs Vita)?
|
[QUOTE=Sage00;33509002]
It'll be a big ask for it to keep up with that pace though, since the DS holiday season is coming up. [/QUOTE] In aligned plots, 3DS will always be behind DS because of its launch date, and then catch up and then lose it and so on. Ds has the benefits of launching around christmas, so after approx 1 year it had benefited from two christmas, as your plot shows up. |
Yeah, DS will definitely take the lead again. When it comes to the first 52 weeks, though, looks like 3DS's only real competition is GBA.
[img]http://garaph.info/linecompare.php//sum/1/title/First+52+weeks/html/0/sys-0/GBA/date-0/2001-03-19/tra-0/fam/sys-1/Wii/date-1/2006-11-27/tra-1/mc/sys-2/3DS/date-2/2011-02-21/tra-2/mc[/img] Note: tracker mixing since Media Create info starts after GBA launch. |
[QUOTE=JoshuaJSlone;33508572]Previous Mario Karts and Monster Hunters coexisted leggily. I don't see why it would be much worse now that it's more convenient to supplement one with the other by taking up an additional cubic centimeter of pocket space.[/QUOTE]DS audience was spread across many age groups, PSP was more specific. Right now, we don't know where 3DS is, as Nintendo has yet to release data with the current userbase.
|
[QUOTE=Kurosaki Ichigo;33509587]So next week will be the last for predictions this year, there are a few interesting software releases so I think we'll do them and no hardware or older software. Is it okay or do everyone want pissing contest entries (MH3G 3rd week vs FFXIII-2 2nd, 3DS vs Vita)?[/QUOTE]
There isn't the big release, taking a break for some weeks won't be bad. |
[QUOTE=Perfo;33507925]Do we have total sales for software in Japan, PS3 vs DS vs PSP? I'd be curious to see if there's really a big difference in that.[/QUOTE][url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=PS3&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0]PS3: ~33.7m[/url].
[URL="http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=PSP&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0"]PSP: ~61.4m[/URL]. [URL="http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=DS&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0"]DS: ~168.2m.[/URL] |
Sell-through percentages in the first week (Famitsu)
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 746,313 90.29% [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG - 823,265 95.83% [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd - 2,146,467 95.08% [Wii] Monster Hunter 3 - 582,548 54.36% |
[QUOTE=Spiegel;33511381]Sell-through percentages in the first week (Famitsu)
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 746,313 90.29% [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG - 823,265 95.83% [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd - 2,146,467 95.08% [Wii] Monster Hunter 3 - 582,548 54.36%[/QUOTE] In line with the portable entries. MH3 the original seems out of place after those three 90%. |
[QUOTE=Jokeropia;33511351][url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=PS3&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0]PS3: ~33.7m[/url].
[URL="http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=PSP&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0"]PSP: ~61.4m[/URL]. [URL="http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=DS&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0"]DS: ~168.2m.[/URL][/QUOTE] That's it ;) |
[QUOTE=Chris1964;33510716]There isn't the big release, taking a break for some weeks won't be bad.[/QUOTE]
No faith in Orochi, is it? Not a bad way to end the year with the Vita launch week (plus whole december results in early january) either. [I]Could [/I]be a long break though. |
Get6-2 has shared his impressions on yesterday
Looking at it with Google Translator, I can only understand that FFXIII-2 is considered bad and unexpected, while Inazuma Eleven Go sold more than the expected (with growth in weekend that will follow according to him) on the first day, and the shipment shouldn't be so low with Holidays incoming? Since this is coming from Google Translator, I'm asking to you to translate, Japan GAF! FFXIII-2 [QUOTE]昨日発売の「PS3&360：FF13-2」は、 個人的には期待していなかった分悪くないスタートという印象。 しかし世間的にはメーカー提示数をそのまま発注していた問屋が、 発売前から掛安案内をしている事から不調という事なのかも。 スクエニのタイトルはコンビニ枠や量販シェアが高く、 販売数予測はとても難しいためパス。 当然の事ではありますが「13」超えはないでしょう。[/QUOTE] Inazuma Eleven Go [QUOTE]2番手には発売前にバタバタしていた「3DS：イナズマイレブンGO」。 週末以降からの伸びに期待したいタイトルでしたが、 発売初日から予想以上に売れているようです。 ただ、出荷数がそこそこなので、 品薄感は今のところありません。 人気コンテンツですしクリスマス～正月まで品揃えしたいタイトルです。 その他のタイトルは忙しくて細かくみれませんでした。[/QUOTE] |
It really isn't looking good for XIII-2 so far...
|
I am also interested in the translation. It can't be that late in Japan, right ? J-GAF has gone clubbin or wat :)
|
Well, it launched during the middle of the week. This is quite unusual for a Final Fantasy, but the Vita took the weekend spot away :P Probably many people will buy it the coming days. XIII-2 isn't the typical "must have day 0 title". Let's wait and see :)
|
[QUOTE]I think DCharlie is right in his interpretation of the appeal of the game to the MH fanbase, though wrong in his conclusions about where that will leave sales, but I think we need at least one more week's data to get a real idea of what's going to happen.[/QUOTE]
my theory also banks on Nintendo still having a shitty pressing deal on carts and that -if- sales slump they'll slam the brakes on. If this coming week does slump into sub 100k units, then i'd say 800k is a lock. 200k it's clearly all over! ;) but yeah, i agree that i've still probably got the figures wrong - i expect about 180k this week. Seems to be massive stock everywhere, but the price is super attractive now. I think that's been driven by Amazon rather than it being an attempt to spur on flaggin demand (though it's clearly went down since the first few days) |
[QUOTE=Zhund0r;33512168]Well, it launched during the middle of the week. This is quite unusual for a Final Fantasy, but the Vita took the weekend spot away :P Probably many people will buy it the coming days. [B]XIII-2 isn't the typical "must have day 0 title". Let's wait and see :)[/B][/QUOTE]
There are VERY few examples of J-RPGs showing legs. The Final Fantasy series has never been known for showing for a long time in the charts. It's almost as legless as the Gundam series. |
[QUOTE=Jokeropia;33511351][url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=PS3&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0]PS3: ~33.7m[/url].
[URL="http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=PSP&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0"]PSP: ~61.4m[/URL]. [URL="http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?platform=DS&std=2011-11-28&orderby=SalesLTD+DESC&opt=0"]DS: ~168.2m.[/URL][/QUOTE] What about Wii and 360? |
[QUOTE=Kenka;33512221]There are VERY few examples of J-RPGs showing legs. The Final Fantasy series has never been known for showing for a long time in the charts. It's almost as legless as the Gundam series.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but it's still only the very first week. |
Get6-2 indeed does paint a bleak picture for FFXIII-2 and says that it's pretty obvious it won't do as well as FFXIII.
Inazuma Eleven Go should do well during the weekend, but it had a better than expected start. |
[QUOTE=lunchwithyuzo;33512273]What about Wii and 360?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?titleenglish=&stte=0&titlejapanese=&platform=Wii&stpl=0&publisher=&stpu=0&date1=&date2=&std=&price1=&price2=&sltd1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1]Wii: ~56.8m[/url] [url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?titleenglish=&stte=0&titlejapanese=&platform=x360&stpl=0&publisher=&stpu=0&date1=&date2=&std=&price1=&price2=&sltd1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1]Xbox 360: ~8.4m[/url] Does anyone have 3rd party numbers VS 1st party numbers for all the systems in this generation by the way? |
[QUOTE=test_account;33512322][url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?titleenglish=&stte=0&titlejapanese=&platform=Wii&stpl=0&publisher=&stpu=0&date1=&date2=&std=&price1=&price2=&sltd1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1]Wii: ~56.8m[/url]
[url=http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?titleenglish=&stte=0&titlejapanese=&platform=x360&stpl=0&publisher=&stpu=0&date1=&date2=&std=&price1=&price2=&sltd1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1]Xbox 360: ~8.4m[/url][/QUOTE] Cool, thanks. :) |
[QUOTE=Jonnyram;33504585]Seriously?
One's a popular game to play in schools while the other is a popular game to play in schools. No friction there at all.[/QUOTE] I don't think the audience overlaps enough to stop one game from selling. |
[QUOTE=onipex;33512332]I don't think the audience overlaps enough to stop one game from selling.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I mean it's not like Pokémon killed Mario Kart or vice versa before. |
[QUOTE=cvxfreak;33512286]Get6-2 indeed does paint a bleak picture for FFXIII-2 and says that it's pretty obvious it won't do as well as FFXIII.[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone was really expecting it to do as well as XIII. I think more people will be using the X:X-2 ratio to determine success. It will do well enough, but I have a feeling they won't be needing another shipment. |
[QUOTE=DCharlie;33512200]my theory also banks on Nintendo still having a shitty pressing deal on carts and that -if- sales slump they'll slam the brakes on. If this coming week does slump into sub 100k units, then i'd say 800k is a lock. 200k it's clearly all over! ;)
but yeah, i agree that i've still probably got the figures wrong - i expect about 180k this week. Seems to be massive stock everywhere, but the price is super attractive now. I think that's been driven by Amazon rather than it being an attempt to spur on flaggin demand (though it's clearly went down since the first few days)[/QUOTE] I do wonder about the manufacturing process - it was the source of [b]lots[/b] of complaints from publishers with the DS, but with Sony moving to solid-state as well I wonder if there's actually [b]less[/b] pressure on Nintendo to improve that side of things. A glimpse behind the curtain would be interesting... |
| All times are GMT. The time now is 11:46 PM. |