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[Nintex] 01-19-2012 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=AzaK;34406534]Dunno of Crytek are going to do anything themselves, but let's hope they have something REALLY sexy to show off their engine. It's a prime opportunity for Crytek and Epic to get their engines on the new platform to wow developers. Epic I can see waiting because, well, they are Epic and are up their own arses and seem to have disdain for Nintendo. Crytek though could lead the pack.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know Crytek has nothing in production for Wii U at this time. They problably won't do a very late Crysis 2 port and their next scheduled title is Ryse in 2013 followed by Homefront 2 in 2013/2014. TimeSplitters 4 was heavily rumored to be in production for the next Xbox as a launch game but evidence has yet to surface.

bgassassin 01-19-2012 10:09 PM

[QUOTE=Dragon;34406409]It was announced without including it.

Resident Evil 5 was not on the Wii.

There's more evidence against it than for it at this time. I think you're crazy for assuming so yeah.[/QUOTE]

Darksiders 2's recent trailer didn't have a Wii U logo either. And we know that's coming to Wii U.

18-Volt 01-19-2012 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=Dragon;34406409]It was announced without including it.[/QUOTE]

Arkham City and Darksiders 2 were announced without mentioning Wii U. (damn, beaten)

Nintendo is probably keeping third parties quiet and planning a E3 launch software explosion. Every H2 2012 third party game is potential Wii U launch game.

Emitan 01-19-2012 10:10 PM

Oh, man, if TimeSplitters 4 isn't on Wii U or PC I might have to buy a 2nd console next gen. I never owned any of them, but I played them splitscreen at parties. The games are so crazy there has to be a lot of great uses for the touchscreen, especially for map making (they had map making, right?).

[Nintex] 01-19-2012 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=Billychu;34406828]Oh, man, if TimeSplitters 4 isn't on Wii U or PC I might have to buy a 2nd console next gen. I never owned any of them, but I played them splitscreen at parties. The games are so crazy there has to be a lot of great uses for the touchscreen, especially for map making (they had map making, right?).[/QUOTE]

TimeSplitters 4 is rumored to be in production since forever but with Crytek UK on Homefront 2 I doubt it'll surface. It's probably one of those pet projects that they're always messing around with.

Emitan 01-19-2012 10:13 PM

Star Wars Battlefront III and Timesplitters 4 as the Wii U's holiday multiplayer online showcase. Believe!

Sadist 01-19-2012 10:13 PM

[QUOTE=Dragon;34406409]It was announced without including it.

Resident Evil 5 was not on the Wii.

There's more evidence against it than for it at this time. I think you're crazy for assuming so yeah.[/QUOTE]
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, Resident Evil, Resident Evil Zero, Resident Evil the Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles were :)

?oe?oe 01-19-2012 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=royalan;34405772]The only thing that makes me nervous about RE 6 is that it seems like Capcom has already prepared a lot early press materials for the game, and there's no Wii U logo in sight.[/QUOTE]

Recent trailers of Darksiders II have no Wii U either. It's probably one of the more discussed Wii U titles from 3rd party developers, yet no logo.

Thus, Nintendo Ninjas.

Father_Brain 01-19-2012 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=18-Volt;34406807]Arkham City and Darksiders 2 were announced without mentioning Wii U. (damn, beaten)

Nintendo is probably keeping third parties quiet and planning a E3 launch software explosion. Every H2 2012 third party game is potential Wii U launch game.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

It's hardly guaranteed that every H2 2012 multiplatform HD title will get a Wii U version, and the percentage that do/don't will be very telling of the platform's future for good or ill. But keep in mind that, AFAIK, DQX is the only Wii U game to be announced since E3, and that almost none of the official PR materials for the already-announced Wii U multiplatform titles mention the Wii U version.

So either Nintendo is keeping things under wraps to an absurd degree, or literally none of the multiplatform HD titles announced in the past six months are coming to the platform. I know which I think is more likely.

AzaK 01-19-2012 10:25 PM

[QUOTE='[Nintex];34406746']As far as I know Crytek has nothing in production for Wii U at this time. They problably won't do a very late Crysis 2 port and their next scheduled title is Ryse in 2013 followed by Homefront 2 in 2013/2014. TimeSplitters 4 was heavily rumored to be in production for the next Xbox as a launch game but evidence has yet to surface.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I wasn't meaning a game, but some sort of tech demo of their engine running in Wii U all maxed out.


[QUOTE=Father_Brain;34407179]
So either Nintendo is keeping things under wraps to an absurd degree, or literally none of the multiplatform HD titles announced in the past six months are coming to the platform. I know which I think is more likely.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. No way will the Wii U have 0 3rd party titles.

[Nintex] 01-19-2012 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=Father_Brain;34407179]Exactly.

It's hardly guaranteed that every H2 2012 multiplatform HD title will get a Wii U version, and the percentage that do/don't will be very telling of the platform's future for good or ill. But keep in mind that, AFAIK, DQX is the only Wii U game to be announced since E3, and that almost none of the official PR materials for the already-announced Wii U multiplatform titles mention the Wii U version.

So either Nintendo is keeping things under wraps to an absurd degree, or literally none of the multiplatform HD titles announced in the past six months are coming to the platform. I know which I think is more likely.[/QUOTE]

There's still a bunch of fall titles that haven't been unveiled/announced yet like Assassins Creed III, Call of Duty, Need for Speed by Criterion and more. And those happen to be the titles I expect to land on Wii U. When it comes to games like DMC, Dead or Alive 5, GTAV and others I'm not at all certain they'll release on Wii U. Third parties seem to look at this on a case by case basis.

-Pyromaniac- 01-19-2012 10:31 PM

Nintendo is going to do one of those things at E3, the old logo splash on the screen. You'll see all the game logos or company logos they've partnered with.

Andrex 01-19-2012 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=Dragon;34406409]It was announced without including it.

Resident Evil 5 was not on the Wii.

There's more evidence against it than for it at this time. I think you're crazy for assuming so yeah.[/QUOTE]

On the one hand, it's been an entire generation since a Nintendo home console got a mainline Resident Evil game.

On the other hand, the GameCube got a port of every single RE game, as well as built-from-the-ground-up games (4 and 0.) The 3DS is getting a "mainline-ish" RE game while its competitor is not, and if the MH deal is anything to go by, Nintendo and Capcom are on pretty good ground right now.

I'm 50/50 on it.

AceBandage 01-19-2012 10:40 PM

[QUOTE=-Pyromaniac-;34407429]Nintendo is going to do one of those things at E3, the old logo splash on the screen. You'll see all the game logos or company logos they've partnered with.[/QUOTE]

Likely.
I mean, they can't show EVERY single game for the Wii U.
They will, however, demo Killer Freaks and any first party launch games.

-Pyromaniac- 01-19-2012 10:41 PM

Only 5 more months...

Father_Brain 01-19-2012 10:46 PM

[QUOTE='[Nintex];34407397']There's still a bunch of fall titles that haven't been unveiled/announced yet like Assassins Creed III, Call of Duty, Need for Speed by Criterion and more. And those happen to be the titles I expect to land on Wii U. When it comes to games like DMC, Dead or Alive 5, GTAV and others I'm not at all certain they'll release on Wii U. Third parties seem to look at this on a case by case basis.[/QUOTE]

True. We shouldn't take every PC/PS3/360 announcement at face value and assume the worst for Wii U, but nor should we assume that every such title is getting a Wii U port. We'll have to wait and see, and I can't say I'm wildly optimistic.

wsippel 01-19-2012 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=Infinite Justice;34404063]seems port begging was the culprit[/QUOTE]
Probably not. Port begging happens in every other 3DS thread and nobody gets banned.

Caelus 01-19-2012 10:55 PM

I'm truly excited for this year, I want to see the first-party titles especially.

Gravijah 01-19-2012 10:58 PM

he was banned 2 weeks for port begging.

Jackano 01-19-2012 11:00 PM

RE6 will be a symbolic game to follow when you will judge third party support for the Wii U at E3.

Nov.20th? Could be a really big name in a launch line-up. [I]If[/I] Nintendo manage to actually build the Wii U like they claim to want in order to have more third party developers support, RE6 will be there on day one. Best case scenario, it will be right away the "superior" version.

Middle scenario, it will come in early 2013, like the PC version.

Worst case scenario, no RE6, Nintendo doomed, etc... Sounds unlikely when you look at Gamecube and 3DS, but it just sounds more possible if you take RE5.

Alternate scenario: RE5 port!

PSGames 01-19-2012 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=wsippel;34408008]Probably not. Port begging happens in every other 3DS thread and nobody gets banned.[/QUOTE]

It's not an iron-clad rule. Just when a mod determines it's gotten out of hand.

luffeN 01-19-2012 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=bgassassin;34406782]Darksiders 2's recent trailer didn't have a Wii U logo either. And we know that's coming to Wii U.[/QUOTE]

German PR about the trailer still mentions that a Wii U version is coming. They even mention that it is a launch game for Wii U.

wsippel 01-19-2012 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=PSGames;34408283]It's not an iron-clad rule. Just when a mod determines it's gotten out of hand.[/QUOTE]
It gets out of hand in every other 3DS thread, too. If that truly was the reason, I don't really know what to think.

Bullza2o 01-19-2012 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=Skiesofwonder;34384449]Wow.... That's like having school on Christmas Day. :(

Hopefully you don't have one scheduled during the conference.[/QUOTE]
I think E3 conferences start on a Saturday?

wsippel 01-19-2012 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=Billychu;34406828]Oh, man, if TimeSplitters 4 isn't on Wii U or PC I might have to buy a 2nd console next gen. I never owned any of them, but I played them splitscreen at parties. The games are so crazy there has to be a lot of great uses for the touchscreen, especially for map making (they had map making, right?).[/QUOTE]
From what I've heard, Crytek ported their engine over quickly, and it works (and looks) great, but they're not working on any Wii U games. I personally think that's stupid, as there's obviously no better marketing for an engine than an actual game, but yeah... It's what I was told.

AzaK 01-19-2012 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=wsippel;34408724]From what I've heard, Crytek ported their engine over quickly, and it works (and looks) great, but they're not working on any Wii U games. I personally think that's stupid, as there's obviously no better marketing for an engine than an actual game, but yeah... It's what I was told.[/QUOTE]

Well if they're under the same NDAs as every other third party publisher seems to be, I imagine they can't even hint at having Wii U versions of anything in the works.

HylianTom 01-19-2012 11:31 PM

I fully expect something like [B]RE6: Cooking Pork Chops with Leon n' Jill[/B] to be Capcom's RE-flavored contribution to the Wii U. Color me skeptical.

-Pyromaniac- 01-19-2012 11:33 PM

Timesplitters 4 is gonna be glorious. When that comes out, fuck COD/other shooters. And I'm a COD fan.

Hiltz 01-19-2012 11:42 PM

A Resident Evil 6 port to Wii U seems like it will happen. Even if Capcom doesn't bother to up the graphics or add exclusive content, it can just use the console's streaming ability and now you've got something special about the Wii U version of RE 6.

Gravijah 01-19-2012 11:53 PM

timesplitters 4 is never going to happen. time to just give it up. :/

AceBandage 01-19-2012 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=Gravijah;34409802]timesplitters 4 is never going to happen. time to split[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

royalan 01-19-2012 11:56 PM

[QUOTE=AceBandage;34409839]Fixed.[/QUOTE]

HAHA! That was good.

ultrazilla 01-20-2012 12:02 AM

First post! Go easy on me guys, hello! :)

I'm totally excited about the Wii U and will be buying it day 1.

Since we will *most* likely get the release date for the system at E3, will major retailers begin taking preorders for the system the day of the announcement?

AceBandage 01-20-2012 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=ultrazilla;34410011]First post! Go easy on me guys, hello! :)

I'm totally excited about the Wii U and will be buying it day 1.

Since we will *most* likely get the release date for the system at E3, will major retailers begin taking preorders for the system the day of the announcement?[/QUOTE]

Probably a lot of them will start taking it that week at least.

Gravijah 01-20-2012 12:05 AM

pre-orders usually go up when the price is announced.

Shadowlink 01-20-2012 12:11 AM

They should just announce Yoshi's Island on Wii U already.

ReyVGM 01-20-2012 12:14 AM

[QUOTE=MadOdorMachine;34405685]We'll have to wait until E3 unless someone has some info they want to share, but I also thought it was a bad sign that Metal Gear Rising wasn't coming to Wii U - at least it hasn't been announced. Kojima also said Project Ogre wasn't to Wii U though which is major. He's Konami's primary game producer so this to me means we might not get Castlevania either. That's a huge loss of Japanese third party support and games that are also targeted at western audiences. It doesn't bode well for Wii U if this is the case, but hopefully Nintendo is courting these developers if they are serious.[/QUOTE]

Kojima has never made a game for a Nintendo console (not portable), so I wouldn't be surprised if Project Ogre never comes to the Wii U.

guek 01-20-2012 12:14 AM

I'll be very surprised if RE6 isn't shown in some form during nintendo's E3 presser. I'm just not sure if I want to play it yet...I really missed the isolated feel of previous REs when I played RE5, and RE6 looks no different.

maeda 01-20-2012 12:15 AM

Do you guys know when will amazon start charging taxing on purchases made from CA? I hope the preorders for Wii U go up before that.

brochiller 01-20-2012 12:15 AM

[QUOTE=Shadowlink;34410284]They should just announce Yoshi's Island on Wii U already.[/QUOTE]

This [B]needs[/B] to happen. That art style would look glorious in HD.

ReyVGM 01-20-2012 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=AceBandage;34406237]Of course RE6 will be on the Wii U...
You guys are crazy to think otherwise.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure it will come too... however...

Will it come the very same day it's released for the other consoles or will we have to wait weeks or months until the Wii U version is released?

I wouldn't mind that if that meant better graphics/framerate + good wiipad implementation, but it probably won't.

I'll be just like the Gamecube days, where we got stuff later and not always the best version :(

MDX 01-20-2012 12:27 AM

[QUOTE=Dragon;34406409]It was announced without including it.

Resident Evil 5 was not on the Wii.

There's more evidence against it than for it at this time. I think you're crazy for assuming so yeah.[/QUOTE]

Its very clear what Nintendo is doing.
They dont want to associate the WiiU with this gen.

They will probably have special WiiU advertisement for these games
Hopefully showing a difference in the quality of the graphics and the unique control scheme.

TunaLover 01-20-2012 12:28 AM

It will not be RE5 or RE6 for WiiU, game over guys, time to go home.

JoshuaJSlone 01-20-2012 12:32 AM

[quote=The Xtortionist]It's different for no reason. If they want it to be symmetrical, it should follow the dualshock layout. Clearly there are a ton of people who like it...why be different?[/quote]
So if they want it to be symmetrical, they also have to ditch the "analog over d-pad" standard that every non-Sony controller of the last decade has used?

ElTopo 01-20-2012 12:32 AM

[QUOTE=TunaLover;34410809]It will not be RE5 or RE6 for WiiU, game over guys, time to go home.[/QUOTE]

Resident Evil: Outbreak Chronicles

A railshooter as a test. What could possibly go wrong ?

MDX 01-20-2012 12:42 AM

I wouldnt be surprised if Nintendo shrinks down the WiiU to the Wii size.
Just replacing one box for another.

AceBandage 01-20-2012 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=MDX;34411186]I wouldnt be surprised if Nintendo shrinks down the WiiU to the Wii size.
Just replacing one box for another.[/QUOTE]

What would be the reason for that?

Andrex 01-20-2012 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=ElTopo;34410928]Resident Evil: Outbreak Chronicles

A railshooter as a test. What could possibly go wrong ?[/QUOTE]

No, first they'll port RE5 but it'll be co-op optional making it the best version by default, [I]then [/I]they'll spring the on-rails rehashes.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7HQ9F.png[/IMG]

botty 01-20-2012 12:55 AM

Do you guys know if the Wii U controller is capable of a sorta "dual-play"?

Where you have one experience on the TV and another on the controller; say you're playing Pikmin and you command Olimar on TV, and Louie on the controller (by using the screen).

Or maybe a better example would be a TWEWY style game.

AceBandage 01-20-2012 12:56 AM

[QUOTE=botty;34411546]Do you guys know if the Wii U controller is capable of a sorta "dual-play"?

Where you have one experience on the TV and another on the controller; say you're playing Pikmin and you command Olimar on TV, and Louie on the controller (by using the screen).

Or maybe a better example would be a TWEWY style game.[/QUOTE]

Yes.
It's asymmetrical gameplay and it's already been demoed.
Such as:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ESOxPIOF10[/url]


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