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Esura 02-23-2012 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35407728]
Hmm... what tips do you need specifically? Keep in mind that I haven't really touched her seriously for a while. I think I got ONE midscreen BNB yesterday out of like... 10-20 matches... so I'm really out of touch with her. The main thing is to learn when to use wind and setting up pumpkins/frogs.

The main midscreen BNB that I would suggest you learning is 6A, 5B, sj.C, 2D, jc, [delay], j2C (level 2), 236B, j.C, dj, j.C, j.214C, (land), frog. Her 6A is really versatile since it can be used on the ground, or as an AA. On counterhit AA 6A, you wanna run up to the opponent a little bit and then 5B, then finish combo as usual.

I DO hear that the new thing to do is 6A, 5B, sj.C, 2D, jc, [delay], j2C (level2), 2A [whiff], 5C[whiff]C to put the opponent into the corner... but again I would have to mess around with it.[/QUOTE]

Mostly just a general gameplan I should incorporate with Rachel and a starter BnB. After getting this combo off on someone for like 4500 damage with Noel I think I'm ready to try Rachel again. My execution was horrible in CT.

Thanks for this.

Prototype-03 02-23-2012 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Esura;35409540]Mostly just a general gameplan I should incorporate with Rachel and a starter BnB. After getting this combo off on someone for like 4500 damage with Noel I think I'm ready to try Rachel again. My execution was horrible in CT.

Thanks for this.[/QUOTE]

Sure, no problem.

A good oki setup combo (meterless and midscreen) is 6A, 5B, sj.B, j.A, j.B, j.C, dj, (slight delay), j.2C, j.214B (air pumpkin). If you want more damage, from the double jump, you can do j.B, j.C, 236A.

I also think that a CH 6B now wall bounds? Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't so I don't really know, but I think it's guaranteed if you follow it up with 5D (6D). So you can do CH 6B, 6D, 66 (dash), 5B, into air combo... I THINK.

Esura 02-23-2012 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35410035]Sure, no problem.

A good oki setup combo (meterless and midscreen) is 6A, 5B, sj.B, j.A, j.B, j.C, dj, (slight delay), j.2C, j.214B (air pumpkin). If you want more damage, from the double jump, you can do j.B, j.C, 236A.

I also think that a CH 6B now wall bounds? Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't so I don't really know, but I think it's guaranteed if you follow it up with 5D (6D). So you can do CH 6B, 6D, 66 (dash), 5B, into air combo... I THINK.[/QUOTE]

Ah, ok. I'm gonna write these down on my flashcards. Thanks.

TheExodu5 02-23-2012 07:11 PM

I really wish I could buy this for both PS3 and Vita for an acceptable price. I really don't want to shell out $80 for a single fighting game. =\

sixteen-bit 02-23-2012 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=TheExodu5;35410882]I really wish I could buy this for both PS3 and Vita for an acceptable price. I really don't want to shell out $80 for a single fighting game. =\[/QUOTE]

You could save like 5 bucks if you buy the Vita one off PSN

Skilletor 02-23-2012 07:21 PM

I played the very first BB and I used Bang. I'm liking the way Makoto and Tsubaki look. How does Bang compare to the vanilla release?

Who are some good players I could watch for any of those characters? If I like playing it on the Vita enough, I'll uprgrade to a console so I can play with a stick. :D


[QUOTE=blackflag;35408421]Yes, it definitely has an amazing d-pad. So easy to pull off moves. It is a tad small for my huge hands but I got used to it pretty much already.[/QUOTE]

I don't have a problem with the dpad, but the buttons being so small makes it really difficult to do simultaneous buttons. I'm going to have to figure out how to configure L and R.

DoctorWho 02-23-2012 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=TheExodu5;35410882]I really wish I could buy this for both PS3 and Vita for an acceptable price. I really don't want to shell out $80 for a single fighting game. =\[/QUOTE]

I'm spending $100 on the MLB: The Show combo. Can't resist.

blackflag 02-23-2012 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=nicoga3000;35408443]Just bought a pair of PDP Trigger Grips. As soon as I get out of work, I'll be trying BlazBlue to see how it feels with a bit of palm support on the Vita. :)[/QUOTE]

I was looking at those on amazon. They actually looked like they'd make it a lot more comfy.

Akuun 02-23-2012 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=Skilletor;35411217]I played the very first BB and I used Bang. I'm liking the way Makoto and Tsubaki look. How does Bang compare to the vanilla release?

Who are some good players I could watch for any of those characters? If I like playing it on the Vita enough, I'll uprgrade to a console so I can play with a stick. :D[/QUOTE]
Try Dora for Bang.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmGok3nYBo[/url]

Don't know the big names for the other characters.

Skilletor 02-23-2012 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=Akuun;35411356]Try Dora for Bang.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmGok3nYBo[/url]

Don't know the big names for the other characters.[/QUOTE]

OMG! Who's the other character? He turned into Talbain! INSTANT INTEREST!

Akuun 02-23-2012 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=Skilletor;35411430]OMG! Who's the other character? He turned into Talbain! INSTANT INTEREST![/QUOTE]
The guy he's against? Valkenhayn.

sixteen-bit 02-23-2012 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=Skilletor;35411430]OMG! Who's the other character? He turned into Talbain! INSTANT INTEREST![/QUOTE]

Valkenhayn.

He's also top-tier. Just sayin'.

Prototype-03 02-23-2012 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=Esura;35410860]Ah, ok. I'm gonna write these down on my flashcards. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I'd also recommend to watch some vids. Kure Hane's Rachel is amazing.

ex vid: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zxY_dhfGmNc#t=384s[/url]

edit: another vid, except this one, I have no idea who it is - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St5nAxJPFA0#t=2m56[/url]

MechaX 02-23-2012 07:46 PM

Assuming one wants to get into this version (especially since I just got decent internet at the start of the year), I should pretty much just chuck my original Continuum Shift copy, right?

sixteen-bit 02-23-2012 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=MechaX;35411937]Assuming one wants to get into this version (especially since I just got decent internet at the start of the year), I should pretty much just chuck my original Continuum Shift copy, right?[/QUOTE]

Sure, unless you like, have an attachment to the old score attack mode, I guess.

Roto13 02-23-2012 08:58 PM

Including the CT story mode shows that the localization is better in CS. I'm playing Tsubaki's story mode now and there's a flashback with Jin and he actually sounds like a child, unlike in CT. :P Also the writing was worse in CT. A lot of it sounded too much like an anime fansub.

Speaking of Story mode, does Hakumen's story mode ever unlock? >_>

Risk Breaker 02-23-2012 10:15 PM

So... I got this on Vita but I'm a complete noob. What characters are good for noobs? :D

Prototype-03 02-23-2012 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Risk Breaker;35416873]So... I got this on Vita but I'm a complete noob. What characters are good for noobs? :D[/QUOTE]

I would highly recommend you to go with the character that you like rather than going with the easiest to use. Try out the basic training about the mechanics, then go through the characters' challenges to get a feel.

If you REALLY just want least amount of effort to high reward, go for Ragna or Hakumen. They're both easier to use than most of the cast and high damage output.

Akuun 02-23-2012 10:28 PM

I second that. Pick someone you like and then try to learn him or her.

Barring that, learn Ragna. IMO he is the easiest character to learn, and one of the best to boot.

sixteen-bit 02-23-2012 10:30 PM

Yeah pick Ragna

Risk Breaker 02-23-2012 10:32 PM

Okay, I'll try everyone a little and choose the coolest/hottest, as usual :P But I'll keep in mind Ragna, just in case.

I like fighters but I've never been even remotely pro and I have almost no idea of how this game works, but the couple matches I've played have been fun. AND I have to review it so yeah, I needed some guidance so that I wouldn't choose the hardest route.

Thanks guys!

Prototype-03 02-23-2012 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=Risk Breaker;35417465]Okay, I'll try everyone a little and choose the coolest/hottest, as usual :P But I'll keep in mind Ragna, just in case.

I like fighters but I've never been even remotely pro and I have almost no idea of how this game works, but the couple matches I've played have been fun. [B]AND I have to review it [/B]so yeah, I needed some guidance so that I wouldn't choose the hardest route.

Thanks guys![/QUOTE]

Well, this makes it easy! Just learn the in game tutorial and jump into story mode.

Risk Breaker 02-23-2012 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35417524]Well, this makes it easy! Just learn the in game tutorial and jump into story mode.[/QUOTE]

Oh, didn't have time to check that out yet, just did some quick fights... will do :)

I must say that the game is gorgeous in motion, I didn't think it would look so good. And the controls are pretty responsive for now :D

cj_iwakura 02-24-2012 04:42 AM

I'm not done with 'baki yet. She's still got it!

Relius is still awesome though.



Anyone done the new story yet? Makoto's is insane.


Time travel? WTF?

Roto13 02-24-2012 04:46 AM

[QUOTE=cj_iwakura;35428407]I'm not done with 'baki yet. She's still got it!

Relius is still awesome though.



Anyone done the new story yet? Makoto's is insane.


Time travel? WTF?[/QUOTE]

I know, right, wtf was that? Parallel universes.

Her "Help Me Prof. Kokonoe" was pretty great, though.

Papercuts 02-24-2012 04:51 AM

Without knowing much at all about Relius, is his drive similar to Carl or do you not need to hold it down as much(I see his robot isn't always out like Ada). I'm on a pad and would have to remap the D button to play Carl right, wondering if Relius would need that too.

[QUOTE=cj_iwakura;35428407]I'm not done with 'baki yet. She's still got it!

Relius is still awesome though.



Anyone done the new story yet? Makoto's is insane.


Time travel? WTF?[/QUOTE]

I've only done hers so far, the gag ending was hilarious.

TheExodu5 02-24-2012 04:53 AM

Well fuck it. Bought the Vita version. I figured I can have some fun and get a few games in here and there. Maybe I'll pick up the console version in the future if I really get into it.

Prototype-03 02-24-2012 05:04 AM

[QUOTE=Papercuts;35428632]Without knowing much at all about Relius, is his drive similar to Carl or do you not need to hold it down as much(I see his robot isn't always out like Ada). I'm on a pad and would have to remap the D button to play Carl right, wondering if Relius would need that too.[/QUOTE]

You do not need to hold her to move. She just follows you behind. Press D once to summon, press it again to make her disappear. She also disappears if she gets hit (except for projectiles) or if Relius gets hit.

cj_iwakura 02-24-2012 05:06 AM

[QUOTE=Roto13;35428502]I know, right, wtf was that? Parallel universes.

Her "Help Me Prof. Kokonoe" was pretty great, though.[/QUOTE]

No joke.

[quote]The bitch herself.[/quote]



Hazama's new voice is growing on me. I haven't heard his insane voice yet, though.

Ha ha, nice.

[quote]You LIVE to cockblock me, don't you!?
Well, UNlive. You know what I mean.[/quote]

TheExodu5 02-24-2012 05:09 AM

How's Rachel now? Used to play her in Calamity Trigger but they changed her quite a bit in Continuum Shift...didn't like her as much.

Prototype-03 02-24-2012 05:18 AM

[QUOTE=TheExodu5;35428988]How's Rachel now? Used to play her in Calamity Trigger but they changed her quite a bit in Continuum Shift...didn't like her as much.[/QUOTE]

Lies, you gave up after like 2 weeks. She's closer to CS Rachel than CT Rachel.

Prototype-03 02-24-2012 06:24 AM

Noel's voice up in the BB store

TheExodu5 02-24-2012 06:37 AM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35429204]Lies, you gave up after like 2 weeks. [/QUOTE]

:(

Tekno's Nu demoralized me.

Man, this game looks damned good on the Vita.

Akuun 02-24-2012 06:42 AM

My copy just shipped! Yay!

Don't worry about Nu. Lambda is a Nu that has been nerfed to reasonable levels.

Hitokage 02-24-2012 06:44 AM

[QUOTE=Akuun;35430898]Don't worry about Nu either. Lambda is a Nu that has been nerfed to reasonable levels.[/QUOTE]Nu had actual space control. :(

Kerrby 02-24-2012 06:56 AM

Bought this for Vita, can't get into it at all. The game is absolutely beautiful though, loving just watching how good it looks. It's such an old school fighter and I feel it's really hard to fight if you aren't standing right next to the enemy.

Disappointing, maybe it's just not for me.

Prototype-03 02-24-2012 08:19 AM

[QUOTE=Kerrby;35431158]Bought this for Vita, can't get into it at all. The game is absolutely beautiful though, loving just watching how good it looks. It's such an old school fighter and I feel it's really hard to fight if you aren't standing right next to the enemy.

Disappointing, maybe it's just not for me.[/QUOTE]

Play for the story then. I hear it's really good.

Fugu 02-24-2012 08:22 AM

[QUOTE=Hitokage;35430930]Nu had actual space control. :([/QUOTE]
Lambda has great space control. Lambda can completely shut down air approaches because even if she misses with swords/act parser wankery she still has crescent saber and a head invulnerable AA, and she has pinwheel, swords, act parser, well, and spike gimmicks for ground.

Kerrby 02-24-2012 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35432307]Play for the story then. I hear it's really good.[/QUOTE]

That's actually why I bought it lol, I'm interested in the anime cutscenes.

Hitokage 02-24-2012 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=Kerrby;35431158]It's such an old school fighter...[/quote]Wat.

[quote]...I feel it's really hard to fight if you aren't standing right next to the enemy.[/QUOTE]WAT.

[QUOTE=Fugu;35432341]Lambda has great space control. Lambda can completely shut down air approaches because even if she misses with swords/act parser wankery she still has crescent saber and a head invulnerable AA, and she has pinwheel, swords, act parser, well, and spike gimmicks for ground.[/QUOTE]Lambda cannot cancel into anything on a whiffed D.

Fugu 02-24-2012 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=Hitokage;35432355]Lambda cannot cancel into anything on a whiffed D.[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah because that would be dumb.

Extollere 02-24-2012 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=Hitokage;35432355]

Lambda cannot cancel into anything on a whiffed D.[/QUOTE]Jump cancel?

Reknoc 02-24-2012 12:30 PM

Wow, didn't this game only come out this week? The thing is like golddust in Nottingham. Went to HMV, nothing. Went to Grainger Games, nothing. Went to GAME right across the way from Grainger Games, nothing but I did get to play a bit of Gravity Rush (didn't care for the Vita but the game itself was a lot of fun). Went to Gamestation, nothing. Went to the other GAME, nothing, but this was the first time seeing the Vita version of the game, it was like; 33 and had a sticker on it saying downloadable only. I laughed my way out of the store. Finally found a copy of it in a local store, they had like 1 LE and 1 regular. Needless to say I swooped down on that LE and had anyone else even looked at it at the time I would have had to settle things like gentlemen.

In the end it was worth it for the godlike boxart (sure as hell isn't worth it for the contents).

[quote=Pictured: Godlike boxart in glorious 3DS camera quality. also; Hito's avatar][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5cOiu.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

This game made me salty before I even managed to buy it! >:(

Salz01 02-24-2012 12:37 PM

Does the vita version loose any of the animation or background quality compared to the big brothers on the console?

TheExodu5 02-24-2012 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=Salz01;35434680]Does the vita version loose any of the animation or background quality compared to the big brothers on the console?[/QUOTE]

It might lose a bit of background quality due to the the lack of anti-aliasing (though I can't recall if the game on PS3 has anti-aliasing or not). It's really not very noticeable though, since the game is running at native res and looks gorgeous anyways.

Theonik 02-24-2012 02:15 PM

[quote=TheExodu5;35435701]It might lose a bit of background quality due to the the lack of anti-aliasing (though I can't recall if the game on PS3 has anti-aliasing or not). It's really not very noticeable though, since the game is running at native res and looks gorgeous anyways.[/quote]
PS3 version has quincunx AA for backgrounds so if that were missing from Vita I would even call it an improvement. Thankfully the Vita isn't anything like BBCT PSP which had 2D versions of the backgrounds.

GuardianE 02-24-2012 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=_dementia;35411981]Sure, unless you like, have an attachment to the old score attack mode, I guess.[/QUOTE]

There's also the CT set of Teach Me, Ms. Litchi! that is strangely omitted. Otherwise, CS:EX seems to include pretty much everything to date.

Roto13 02-24-2012 04:06 PM

Does Rachel have a different voice actor in Valkenhayn's arcade mode? >_>

Lumination 02-24-2012 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=Akuun;35411356]Try Dora for Bang.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmGok3nYBo[/url]

Don't know the big names for the other characters.[/QUOTE]
I see your Dora and raise you [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TENIr7XgXZs&feature=channel_video_title"]Nezu, the God-Bang[/URL].

Pretty sure he beat Dora at God's Garden as well.

Pookmunki 02-24-2012 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Reknoc;35434620]Wow, didn't this game only come out this week? The thing is like golddust in Nottingham. Went to HMV, nothing. Went to Grainger Games, nothing. Went to GAME right across the way from Grainger Games, nothing but I did get to play a bit of Gravity Rush (didn't care for the Vita but the game itself was a lot of fun). Went to Gamestation, nothing. Went to the other GAME, nothing, but this was the first time seeing the Vita version of the game, it was like; 33 and had a sticker on it saying downloadable only. I laughed my way out of the store. Finally found a copy of it in a local store, they had like 1 LE and 1 regular. Needless to say I swooped down on that LE and had anyone else even looked at it at the time I would have had to settle things like gentlemen.

In the end it was worth it for the godlike boxart (sure as hell isn't worth it for the contents).



This game made me salty before I even managed to buy it! >:([/QUOTE]

My Zavvi copy should be with me tomorrow, seeing as I'm in Nottingham too I would assume a good connection if you want to fight sometime?


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