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danmaku 02-10-2012 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=Busaiku;35001537]Bah, I hate number notation.[/QUOTE]

Fact: number notation is superior.

dwix 02-10-2012 03:29 PM

Totally forgot about this game until I saw the OT, so thanks for the reminder :)

I haven't played an Arc System Works fighter since Guilty Gear XX, looking forward to jumping back in (and getting my ass handed to me)!

Heretic Kazuma 02-10-2012 04:24 PM

Haven't touched this series since CSII. Count me in. Let's see how rusty my Carl has gotten, lol.

Prototype-03 02-10-2012 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=Heretic Kazuma;35016285]Haven't touched this series since CSII. Count me in. Let's see how rusty my Carl has gotten, lol.[/QUOTE]

CSII was the last one, so you haven't missed out on anything.

SolarPowered 02-10-2012 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=cj_iwakura;34994804]PSN: cj_iwakura

I main Tsubaki, so you know I'll die fast![/QUOTE]
She still didn't have it as bad as Tager. You'll do fine in this version.

Prototype-03 02-10-2012 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=SolarPowered;35016529]She still didn't have it as bad as Tager. You'll do fine in this version.[/QUOTE]

People are placing Tager somewhere around mid-tier (still A, LOL). Tsubaki is consistently placed bottom 3 (still B-C tier).

I can live with S-C tier

Westlo 02-10-2012 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=Akuun;34984178]As far as I can tell, everyone is viable except maybe Makoto. Maybe not Tsubaki, either.[/QUOTE]

Why do they keep shitting on the previous versions top tier characters?

Akuun 02-10-2012 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=Westlo;35016577]Why do they keep shitting on the previous versions top tier characters?[/QUOTE]
I don't know. My guess is that they try to balance them but then go way too far. What should have been a nerf stick turns into a nerf truck.

Prototype-03 02-10-2012 05:53 PM

[QUOTE=Akuun;35018170]I don't know. My guess is that they try to balance them but then go way too far. What should have been a nerf stick turns into a nerf truck.[/QUOTE]

Well, you guys are only quoting the two characters who got nerfed hard.

Remember that Arakune from CT to CS was VERY viable (and still is). Ragna remained in high tier from CS to EX. Nu went from S tier to B tier. Valkenhayn has remained high tier too.

Rachel and Mak were pretty much the only ones who got screwed.

Busaiku 02-10-2012 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=danmaku;35010342]Fact: number notation is superior.[/QUOTE]

Liars.

cj_iwakura 02-10-2012 08:27 PM

The Blazen comic series is no longer on the internet.

:(

[img]http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leqo4iQpdD1qf2hnlo1_500.png[/img]

It spiraled down into mediocrity, but the good comics were amazing.

Cristina V even dubbed one of them!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epn-fg48i9M[/url]

Magna_Mixalis 02-10-2012 08:36 PM

He took Blazen offline completely?! Damn it...

At least I grabbed the Rachel/Cow Jester comic. It still makes me laugh out loud every time I read it.
Boundary Bros. and Ragna/Tao; you will be missed.

cj_iwakura 02-10-2012 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=Magna_Mixalis;35023369]He took Blazen offline completely?! Damn it...

At least I grabbed the Rachel/Cow Jester comic. It still makes me laugh out loud every time I read it.
Boundary Bros. and Ragna/Tao; you will be missed.[/QUOTE]

We ride!


:(


Someone had to have archived them, right?



Hazama's Troll Booth was the stuff of legends.

[img]http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad282/Holy_Valkyrie/TrollingBooth1.png[/img]

Dreavus 02-10-2012 09:40 PM

Might be a good time to get back into the game. I kinda fell out of playing sometime after CSII came out. I couldn't relearn all of that stuff when the patch came out for CSII.

Might take the opportunity of a new game to try and learn Arakune again... I remember I was just getting those big curse combos down when I kind of stopped playing. I'll pick it up in a month or so when I actually have some time to sink into it. ^^

Prototype-03 02-10-2012 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=Dreavus;35025094]Might be a good time to get back into the game. I kinda fell out of playing sometime after CSII came out. I couldn't relearn all of that stuff when the patch came out for CSII.

Might take the opportunity of a new game to try and learn Arakune again... I remember I was just getting those big curse combos down when I kind of stopped playing. I'll pick it up in a month or so when I actually have some time to sink into it. ^^[/QUOTE]

So no more Jin?

cj_iwakura 02-10-2012 10:04 PM

If anyone's down to bid farewell to CSII, hit me up for some matches. I'm around for an hour or so.

Dreavus 02-11-2012 04:52 AM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35025463]So no more Jin?[/QUOTE]

Oh there will still be Jin! Arakune is one of my favourite characters in the series, so I really want to practice him up too. :D

Not for a little while unfortunately... though I do look forward to some matches with you again proto!

Brettison 02-11-2012 05:09 AM

Worth it at least on the Vita because they finally got it right by adding in online mode. IMO that's probably the launch game I'd want to get with a Vita since Gravity is launch "windows".

I wish we were getting a new 3ds version with online though. :(

awwyeahgurrl 02-11-2012 05:13 AM

So how are rachel and arakune looking in EX so far. Last time I put any effort into this they were both godlike but I know they pretty much put rachel in a wheelchair for a bit.

Fugu 02-11-2012 05:54 AM

[QUOTE=awwyeahgurrl;35035266]So how are rachel and arakune looking in EX so far. Last time I put any effort into this they were both godlike but I know they pretty much put rachel in a wheelchair for a bit.[/QUOTE]
Rachel is good. She has a very good set of tools and handles most characters well. Arakune is very polarizing; he takes a lot of patience to play but he gets rewarded immensely for landing curse.

Really, the only character whose tier placement should be a factor in your choice is Makoto.

Retro_ 02-11-2012 07:05 AM

How is Makoto is this version?

Prototype-03 02-11-2012 07:46 AM

[QUOTE=Retro_;35036609]How is Makoto is this version?[/QUOTE]

REALLYYYY? You couldn't scroll up a little? Mak is considered bottom 3 in this game. I think C tier.

Retro_ 02-11-2012 07:54 AM

Haha my bad just saw Fugu's post

Fugu 02-11-2012 09:31 AM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35036965]REALLYYYY? You couldn't scroll up a little? Mak is considered bottom 3 in this game. I think C tier.[/QUOTE]
Makoto is bottom 1. She is often categorized by herself.

SolarPowered 02-11-2012 09:58 AM

The one thing I hate about BB's balancing is how they seem to go overboard when a character is too good. I remember looking at the matchup charts/tier lists for CT and seeing positions literally flip in later releases. Looking at them and how balancing goes I feel really lucky about Bang. He was lowish in the first game, mid in CSII after being top in CS and high tier for Extend so far.

I know the overall matchups are a lot closer than ever before, but they should easy up a bit on the top/high tiers when they make BB3.

Master Milk 02-11-2012 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=SolarPowered;35037814]The one thing I hate about BB's balancing is how they seem to go overboard when a character is too good. I remember looking at the matchup charts/tier lists for CT and seeing positions literally flip in later releases. Looking at them and how balancing goes I feel really lucky about Bang. He was lowish in the first game, mid in CSII after being top in CS and high tier for Extend so far.

I know the overall matchups are a lot closer than ever before, but they should easy up a bit on the top/high tiers when they make BB3.[/QUOTE]

But if that trend continues, even if Bang ends up being low tier in the next one, that would likely only mean B tier.

Prototype-03 02-11-2012 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=Fugu;35037631]Makoto is bottom 1. She is often categorized by herself.[/QUOTE]

That bad, eh? Mak is Rachel 2.0

[QUOTE=Master Milk;35039167]But if that trend continues, even if Bang ends up being low tier in the next one, that would likely only mean B tier.[/QUOTE]

Ah... I can see it now.

Everyone except Bang: S tier
Bang: B tier

Master Milk 02-11-2012 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=Prototype-03;35040678]Ah... I can see it now.

Everyone except Bang: S tier
Bang: B tier[/QUOTE]

Most balanced game ever?

2+2=5 02-11-2012 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=_dementia;34952651]There is sprite downscaling. Blazblue arcade runs natively at 1280 x 768 so the sprites are downscaled for the 544p qHD display on PSVita.
As you can see from [URL="http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33610201&postcount=831"]the OS-level screenshots[/URL] though, it scales quite nicely, unlike the old PSP and 3DS ports of CT and CSII.


In short, Blaz is both slower paced and easier than Guilty. Lots of GG diehards hold that against BB, but I don't care.
There are lots of parallels in game systems. Dead Angle Attack, Burst, Barrier Block, Instant Block, Roman Cancels, Negative Penalty, etc. are all there in some repsect or another.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! :D

SolarPowered 02-11-2012 03:05 PM

[QUOTE=Master Milk;35039167]But if that trend continues, even if Bang ends up being low tier in the next one, that would likely only mean B tier.[/QUOTE]
I already said the matchups are close. It just seems a bit reactionary is all.

Edit: Damn, I want this game bad. It feels like I'm finally coming back home where I belong with this game...

Grokbu 02-11-2012 03:08 PM

nvm

Busaiku 02-11-2012 06:25 PM

Siliconera's been doing a feature "The Art of BlazBlue" with some nice info on the processes.
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/08/the-art-of-blazblue-part-1-concept-phase/"]Concept Phase[/URL]
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/09/the-art-of-blazblue-part-2-animation-phase/"]Animation Phase[/URL]
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/10/the-art-of-blazblue-part-3-background-phase/"]Background Phase[/URL]

sixteen-bit 02-11-2012 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Busaiku;35045423]Siliconera's been doing a feature "The Art of BlazBlue" with some nice info on the processes.
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/08/the-art-of-blazblue-part-1-concept-phase/"]Concept Phase[/URL]
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/09/the-art-of-blazblue-part-2-animation-phase/"]Animation Phase[/URL]
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/10/the-art-of-blazblue-part-3-background-phase/"]Background Phase[/URL][/QUOTE]

Neat, that's really interesting stuff.

cj_iwakura 02-11-2012 06:32 PM

Why do they rebalance high tier characters by knocking them straight to the bottom?

I never even fought that many Makotos in CSII when she was considered god tier. I mostly run into Ragnas and Tagers.

And Noels. I hate Noels.

Busaiku 02-11-2012 06:37 PM

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2pfEc.jpg[/IMG]

I would've liked that Nu-13 on the right.

Master Milk 02-11-2012 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=cj_iwakura;35045599]Why do they rebalance high tier characters by knocking them straight to the bottom?

I never even fought that many Makotos in CSII when she was considered god tier. I mostly run into Ragnas and Tagers.

And Noels. I hate Noels.[/QUOTE]

I can't imagine they mean to make the top tier the worst in the new version, but like Solar said, they manage to take things too far. It's not like they can really be sure of how tiers will play out until people get their hands on the game and play it. We can at least be sure it's not intentional unbalancing like with a Capcom game because the games get more balanced with every new edition.

And of course, they probably only look at Japanese arcades when considering balance.

And Noel is worthy of being hated.

Volcynika 02-11-2012 06:53 PM

Noel is the best.

cj_iwakura 02-11-2012 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=Master Milk;35045957]I can't imagine they mean to make the top tier the worst in the new version, but like Solar said, they manage to take things too far. It's not like they can really be sure of how tiers will play out until people get their hands on the game and play it. We can at least be sure it's not intentional unbalancing like with a Capcom game because the games get more balanced with every new edition.

And of course, they probably only look at Japanese arcades when considering balance.

And Noel is worthy of being hated.[/QUOTE]

I like the character, but a pro Noel is Tsubaki's worst nightmare.

QisTopTier 02-11-2012 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Volcynika;35045985]Noel is the best.[/QUOTE]

You spelled Mu-12 wrong.

cj_iwakura 02-11-2012 07:05 PM

Why was I not told there's a Tsubaki/Jin theme now!?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhoqOJ7dS8[/url]

This is the first vocal one I like more than the instrumental.

SolarPowered 02-11-2012 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Busaiku;35045423]Siliconera's been doing a feature "The Art of BlazBlue" with some nice info on the processes.
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/08/the-art-of-blazblue-part-1-concept-phase/"]Concept Phase[/URL]
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/09/the-art-of-blazblue-part-2-animation-phase/"]Animation Phase[/URL]
[URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/10/the-art-of-blazblue-part-3-background-phase/"]Background Phase[/URL][/QUOTE]
I was thinking about making a thread out of it, but this works too.
[QUOTE=cj_iwakura;35045599]Why do they rebalance high tier characters by knocking them straight to the bottom?[/QUOTE]
I don't know, but this method of balancing does have a plus side. You can have an idea of what to expect unlike Capcom's balancing. They should ease up on the nerfs a bit though.

Esura 02-11-2012 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=cj_iwakura;35045599]
And Noels. I hate Noels.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Master Milk;35045957]
And Noel is worthy of being hated.[/QUOTE]

Heheheheh

*trollface*


[QUOTE=Volcynika;35045985]Noel is the best.[/QUOTE]

Damn straight. :)

raven777 02-11-2012 08:54 PM

I am thinking of getting this for my vita launch title.

I never played any blazblue series so this will be my first entry to the series.
From what I read the graphics are great and everything seems almost identical to the console version, so my only questions would be how are the controls? Is it easy to pull off commands and combos with vita d-pad or analog(if u can use)?

Kokonoe 02-11-2012 08:57 PM

I wish this game was out today, I need a fighting game to play.

cj_iwakura 02-11-2012 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=raven777;35048483]I am thinking of getting this for my vita launch title.

I never played any blazblue series so this will be my first entry to the series.
From what I read the graphics are great and everything seems almost identical to the console version, so my only questions would be how are the controls? Is it easy to pull off commands and combos with vita d-pad or analog(if u can use)?[/QUOTE]

I use d-pad. Both work fine.

Master Milk 02-12-2012 11:56 AM

Why doesn't Amazon have release day shipping for this? ._.

Esura 02-12-2012 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=Master Milk;35064339]Why doesn't Amazon have release day shipping for this? ._.[/QUOTE]

I preordered from my local Gamestop.

Then again...they charged my credit card twice for this game. Be funny they canceled my preorder and still didn't give me my money back from the mischarge and the preorder money. At this point, I think I need to stop preording from Gamestop...or at least the one I live by.

How is Noel in EXTEND?

Volcynika 02-12-2012 02:29 PM

[QUOTE=QisTopTier;35046152]You spelled Mu-12 wrong.[/QUOTE]

Nuuuuuuuuuu. I await another amount of beatdowns from you.

Esura 02-12-2012 02:35 PM

I wonder who would they have to replace Mu-12 in Blazblue 3 Quantum Theory.

matmanx1 02-12-2012 02:52 PM

Those LE versions are sooo nice I almost wish I was getting a console version instead of the Vita version. I own BlaBlu portable on the psp and it was and is a great portable fighting game so I really want to keep this one as an "on the go" experience for my Vita.

I wonder if that calendar or art book will ever be available to purchase separately?


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