prag16
Banned
700k? What?? I guess I'm no expert and I could be wrong but that sounds high, like really high... almost as ridiculous as the guy who predicted 300k+. Wii U's for June.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2014 [Up2: PS4/XB1/Wii U/360 Hardware, BD/Poke/DK]
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You called it technical though which prompted my response. In the end, I'm not too certain MS is going to pull out the win this month. We still haven't heard any form of PR from EA or MS about Titanfall and we know how much MS likes to toot their horn.
February sales comparison:
GC 2003: 165k
Wii 2008: 430k
Wii U 2014: 80k
PS2 2001: 230k
PS3 2007: 130k
PS4 2014: 270k
XBX 2002: 140k
360 2006: 160k
XBO 2014: 260k
GBA 2004: 350k
DS 2007: 485k
PSP 2007: 175k
3DS + Vita 2014:~175k
GC had a big jump from January 2003 (80k). I don't know if there was a price drop or something else.
I don't have DC sales for February 2001, but it was officially killed by Sega on January 2001 (they announced production would end in March 2001), so congrats Wii U for still being alive.
I picked the 4th, 3rd or 2nd February for each company respectively, with the exception of Vita/PSP. Feb 2008 is when PSP had its 3rd February, but since it was released in Mar 2005 -- one month difference from Vita in Feb 2012 -- I decided to use Feb 2007.
GC 2003: 165k
Wii 2008: 430k
Wii U 2014: 80k
PS2 2001: 230k
PS3 2007: 130k
PS4 2014: 270k
XBX 2002: 140k
360 2006: 160k
XBO 2014: 260k
GBA 2004: 350k
DS 2007: 485k
PSP 2007: 175k
3DS + Vita 2014:~175k
GC had a big jump from January 2003 (80k). I don't know if there was a price drop or something else.
I don't have DC sales for February 2001, but it was officially killed by Sega on January 2001 (they announced production would end in March 2001), so congrats Wii U for still being alive.
I picked the 4th, 3rd or 2nd February for each company respectively, with the exception of Vita/PSP. Feb 2008 is when PSP had its 3rd February, but since it was released in Mar 2005 -- one month difference from Vita in Feb 2012 -- I decided to use Feb 2007.
Callibretto
Member
Ps360 gen pales in comparison to ps2 gen. Although maybe Im biased because last gen is when japan start to drop the ball for console gaming.
KillerMan91
Member
Isn't 2008 better comparison for PSP/DS?
1st Course
Member
Would appreciate it if Aqua or other insiders here can give us 3DS/Vita separate numbers.
AHA-Lambda
Member
any update on thief numbers?
also is it just me or do those 3ds numbers seem awful :/
also is it just me or do those 3ds numbers seem awful :/
According to creamsugar leak, Vita was <17k in January. If it had suddenly risen to much above that number, we´d heard, so it should be safe to assume its not over 25k.
It's a real problem when billion of dollars are being spend on a devices division that adds less than 1% to your net profits; and the new CEO, the new division VP, and shareholders are all restless. Like it or not, thats the reality of the situation and they need to do better than they have historically.
Those are real business viability problems that need to be addressed one way or another. its no surprise they went on a monetizing binge and tried recapturing some consumer surplus with DRM, and killing used games among other plans.
Likewise Sony is in real trouble with their LCD product lines and a few other electronic product lines. Which is why they're making moves there and split it off and outright sold their PC business.
Same ideas at work there. Shareholders like money and they want to move investment away from those areas that make them less to those that they make more, and could make more.
I think he means globally.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Lego City released on a console with a horribly low user base. Lego Movie released on every console, meaning literally millions more people were able to buy the game.
fatgamecat
Member
I meant globally, no way it's doing 700k in US alone.
Yeah, the numbers aren't too great if they aren't saying anything.
Good morning all. Here are some YOY and Gen over Gen comparisons. The 3DS and PSV numbers are guessed individually, but correct combined. Aren't you glad you're not in the dedicated handheld business?
Year Over Year
Gen over Gen
Year Over Year
Code:
2014 2013 % Change
XB1 258
360 114 302 -62.25%
PS4 270
PS3 102 262 -61.07%
WIU 82 66 24.24%
WII 39 99 -60.61%
3DS 153 189 -19.05%
NDS 101
PSV 24 38 -36.84%
PSP 9
Family
MSFT 372 302 23.18%
SONY 396 309 28.16%
NINT 274 455 -39.78%
HAND 177 337 -47.48%
CONSOLE 865 729 18.66%
Code:
Console 2014 2007 % Change
360 228
PS2 295
WII 335
PS3 127
TOTAL 865 985 -12.18%
Handheld 2014 2008 % Change
NDS 588
PSP 243
Total 177 831 -78.70%I think it's pretty much set that the Xbox One is going to lose in worldwide sales. More expensive + released at the same time as the PS4 (with PS brand being more popular worldwide).
Louis Cyphre
Banned
I am actually happy to see sharp declines in PS3 and XBox 360 sales because that means developers will shift over quickly to the new hardware and not have this cross generation mentality when creating the games.
Sony always had better wordwide appeal and now with a $100 reduction compared to being more expensive last generation they will do even better. I think that's great because it will put more pressure on Microsoft to deliver and invest more into providing games.
Sony always had better wordwide appeal and now with a $100 reduction compared to being more expensive last generation they will do even better. I think that's great because it will put more pressure on Microsoft to deliver and invest more into providing games.
Yeah, that's pretty much why I care about these sales right now. I want to see fewer cross gen games.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
I dunno about that. Us sales are low monthly, but there are enough of them out there now and the userbase is keen to buy any cheap titles they can.
But it will never attract additional AAA western games at this rate.
TheRagnCajun
Member
Good numbers for MS. Must be that Titanfall open beta. I expect xbone to beat PS4 in March...maybe 350k vs whatever Sony can manage to ship.
Indeed. I would like them to 'Wii U' the 360 and PS3.
I actually had zero interest in the new Batman game until I found out it was current gen only.
And to be fair, Lego Movie was a huge box office film. It basically was a licensed game.
Not to say Lego City didn't fail because Wii U's userbase is so small, but let's not deny that Lego Movie isn't an adapted game.
again the same misinformation about elop and the new ceo.
Elop never said anything about wanting to sell the xbox division and satya is supportive of the xbox division too. Yes there is a particular vocal shareholder with 0.81% that doesn't want xbox or bing. That doesn't mean ms will abandon the xbox though.
Good numbers for the X1...it's more out there then the PS4 but still not everywhere...in the greater Montreal area,If I where to call all the Best Buy's/Future Shop/Walmart/Target's etc etc out here to buy one today,I bet 80% of them could not sell me one because they are out of stock...
I would have been interested in the new Batman game either way (rocksteady FTW) but the announcement that the game would only be on (now) current gen consoles greatly increased my hype. I'm pumped.
I wouldn't call it misinformation. Elop hasn't said anything publicly on the matter to clear his position up either way. It's a rumour with a somewhat credible source.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
12k Really, really, I had to double take when looking at that. How the fuck could it sell that bad. That's like something you'd expect from Ouya.
Zok310
Banned
I don't see TitanFall pushing XB1 into the number 1 spot in March.
I would say otherwise if PS4 had no software and was still supplied constrained, no longer the case for March.
With SS and GZ launching a week after TF, I expect the same ratios for March that we had in February.
PS4>>>XB1>>>>>>>>>>>>WiiU.
I would say otherwise if PS4 had no software and was still supplied constrained, no longer the case for March.
With SS and GZ launching a week after TF, I expect the same ratios for March that we had in February.
PS4>>>XB1>>>>>>>>>>>>WiiU.
sechsterangriff
Member
As far as I know, it was EA who wanted sports games exclusivity on the Dreamcast, but SEGA of America had just established their Sega Sports 2K series.
No exclusivity, no publishing on the platform.
outunderthestars
Banned
Sigh.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
What are the actual plan Vita #s? I can't find them in the OP.
PS: Hey SCEA when you don't acknowledge a platform exists neither do your customers.
PS: Hey SCEA when you don't acknowledge a platform exists neither do your customers.
Why is this shocking, though? The 3DS itself isn't blowing the doors off, and that's by far the more compelling of the two dedicated gaming handhelds.
At the end of the day, our phones and tablets killed gaming handhelds. The market for that stuff is just too niche to justify the investment. The sooner Sony kills the Vita, the better. They're just throwing good money after bad at this point by keeping that thing on life support.
Nintendo has no choice but to hang on, but they are never going to sell their games in massive quantities until they start putting them on non-cheesy hardware.
March is going to be interesting. Obviously completely isolated situation but in my shopping today I was surprised by the retail marketing blitz of titanfall. The front of every store had the game displayed along with a huge stack of Xbones close behind. Majority of the games were gone but I did notice something interesting. It seemed none of the consoles by themselves were selling. I feel like its a decent possibility most people who wanted the game already purchased their Xbone or grabbed a bundle. Regardless Titanfall should influence the stock sold even if just by a little.
On the opposite side I did notice that PS4's were finally in stock so perhaps there is some truth to Sony holding back stock in anticipation for March. Regardless, worldwide I believe Sony will continue to consistently dominate all year. US being the only market that they will have to fight for this year. At the end of the day I can't think of one generation where the console most favored by 3rd party developers failed to dominate the market. Exclusives appeal alone won't be able to overcome that, Wii U a prime example.
On the opposite side I did notice that PS4's were finally in stock so perhaps there is some truth to Sony holding back stock in anticipation for March. Regardless, worldwide I believe Sony will continue to consistently dominate all year. US being the only market that they will have to fight for this year. At the end of the day I can't think of one generation where the console most favored by 3rd party developers failed to dominate the market. Exclusives appeal alone won't be able to overcome that, Wii U a prime example.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
Zero marketing, no major releases in ages, still priced too highly, etc.
SCEA effectively mismanaged it from day 1, and let all it's potential go to waste. I love mine, but damn if SCEA doesn't give you ever reason not to pick one up.
BattleMonkey
Member
I don't see how TF can't push XB1 ahead, it's a big hyped up game that seems to be obviously pushing console sales. The margins have gotten closer in Feb. Infamous has never been a big seller, people have a bit too high expectations from that when it's never been a blockbuster series. And GZ is multi plat. TF is going to push more hardware than SS ever will.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Not PShita. :lol
Louis Cyphre
Banned
The PS4 will do best for March if they can stock properly. Infamous is coming. The XBox One will do well too because of Titanfall and Microsoft now bundling a free game. The Wii U on the other hand will continue to suffer, no big games.
shinra-bansho
Member
PS3+PS4 is 371K.
PS4 ~269K
PS3 ~102K
3DS and Vita combined is between 175K and 180K. I think the guestimates posted in that Y/Y overestimates 3DS and underestimates Vita.
Pretty much every platform saw a pretty big M/M jump, the only exception supply-constrained PS4, so I would have thought even dead dead Vita will have been dampened by whatever dampened everything else in Jan and would benefit from Feb.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
These are LTD for NPDs/NA right and now WW #s?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I thought I remember reading Lego City sold pretty well on both Wii U and 3DS. Your point stands, though.
I really, really wish more people could play LC: Undercover. Other than the ridiculous loading times, it's a fantastic game.
Zok310
Banned
Sony and MS are in the heat of battle for NA.
Assuming the PS4 wins the march NPD I don't think Infamous will be the deciding factor. The system already has a lot of pent up demand without it. However I would love to be wrong. World wide seems like a pretty solid bet though due to the addition of the Japan launch.
That is my doubt i don't know if he has NPD numbers or handheld numbers are a estimation.