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How badly do we want a Zelda II sequel?
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outunderthestars
Banned
Can I vote: "Not at all" without it being threadshitting?
It is, by a very wide margin, my least favorite not cd-i Zelda. I dislike almost every single aspect of the game.
It is, by a very wide margin, my least favorite not cd-i Zelda. I dislike almost every single aspect of the game.
I agree with the comparisons with Dark Souls. Its fair, but challenging games.
Anyways, about using magic - it says so in the manual. For searching under the table, are you really sure there are no hints? If so, I am conceding that one. Did you really need all magic containers to cast Thunder if you fully leveled up magic? It might be true, but I just never had a problem with it (probably since I know where all the containers are).
Mr. Luchador
Member
If anything this thread has me wanting to try and finish this game!
soulassssns
Banned
Never
If you're looking for some Zelda II goodness you could do worse than trying the NES classic Battle of Olympus. May just be the rose tinted glasses but I preferred it to Zelda II having played both when I was a kid
That game is A M A Z I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like i was the only one who played it. I replayed it on an emulator and it was still good.
Hawaii Jeff
Member
Actually I'd like a Minish Cap remake.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I don't really want a sequel. It was a cool game though
(PS. I agree if it's not clear)
Replace the word "sequel" with "remake" and I agree with you.
However, a sequel can fix old problems, breathe new life, and otherwise just be cool in its own way. Don't diss sequels. Because with Nintendo games, sometimes "sequels" are just about what name to put on the box.
Scooter155
Member
Yeah, those were just examples. Stuff like casting Shield to defeat that Wizrobe boss, finding hidden link dolls and heart containers, chopping down forests to find hidden villages and stuff, the day you realized you could cast Jump and walk on the roofs of towns, the first time you tried to find your way out of Death Mountain... The Darknuts who are suddenly able to shoot lasers at you and later jump. The game is brutal and so little explanation is given. But I figured most of it out and I was just a kid, so it's OK, just kind of nuts, especially by today's standards.
I'm not sure how it happened but my clearest memory of the game is getting to the final dungeon or the second to last one and not being able to get in because I didn't have enough magic to cast Thunder, which is why I haven't beaten it to this day... I don't remember the details though.
Well, 'port' might be the wrong word. It might only have ever been intended to be used as a tech demo, or maybe even a Satellaview game, but it did exist:
Let Koizumi, Shimizu and EAD Tokyo make it. Koizumi was working on a version of Zelda 2 for the Super Famicom that used polygons before working on Super Mario 64 and Zelda 64 (Ocarina of Time).
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/zelda-ocarina-of-time/1/1
Miyamoto on developing Zelda 2
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/makzelda/interviews/superplay.html
http://archive.today/34Jkk#selection-307.0-309.316
Miyamoto on rereleasing Zelda 2 right before the Zelda Collection was announced for GameCube
And here's the first half of the Japanese version of Zelda 2 on GameCube
http://youtu.be/lGA9yD1nXK8
kunonabi
Member
That is still my biggest gripe with Skyward Sword.
I would love another game like Zelda 2 though. The game really just needed a few tweaks.
Sammy Samusu
Member
"Zelda II is a little bit of a failure"
"we actually see A Link To The Past as the real sequel to Legend of Zelda"
"Zelda II was more of a sidestory"
"we actually see A Link To The Past as the real sequel to Legend of Zelda"
"Zelda II was more of a sidestory"
I know most of you have heard of it, but for those who haven't, I really do want to recommend Faxanadu as being every bit as great as Zelda II.
As far as story goes, you're a dude (an elf dude, I believe?) who comes home from a journey to his town at the foot of the World Tree. Meteors crashed into the tree and the Dwarves poured out and started wrecking things. Now go climb the tree and fix this mess.
But basically, it's an upward adventure where you start out as this guy with nothing, climbing the tree, collecting gear and fighting enemies to earn gold and EXP. You need gold to buy cool stuff like magic, keys, and gear. EXP is necessary to get new titles which helps the password guy remember more of your shit when you inevitably die again and again and again.
The Music is Really Good, too!
The craziest thing is that Faxanadu is a spinoff. Probably one of the best examples of the spin-off being infinitely more popular than the original in NES games.
As far as story goes, you're a dude (an elf dude, I believe?) who comes home from a journey to his town at the foot of the World Tree. Meteors crashed into the tree and the Dwarves poured out and started wrecking things. Now go climb the tree and fix this mess.
But basically, it's an upward adventure where you start out as this guy with nothing, climbing the tree, collecting gear and fighting enemies to earn gold and EXP. You need gold to buy cool stuff like magic, keys, and gear. EXP is necessary to get new titles which helps the password guy remember more of your shit when you inevitably die again and again and again.
The Music is Really Good, too!
The craziest thing is that Faxanadu is a spinoff. Probably one of the best examples of the spin-off being infinitely more popular than the original in NES games.
When you learn a spell, the game forces the pause menu on you to view your spell list and inventory. (There's only 4 face buttons on the controller so...)
The house with the mirror is the first house you encounter without anyone in it, which makes it odd. There are many houses you can't enter, so why did they make a house with an empty room?
The heart containers all have hints to their location or are in caves.
The magic containers are hidden in caves or along an easily explroable maze. I usually miss the Maze island container or the one in the cave south of North Castle when I play.
Its hinted at that there's an old man in the ruined town of Kasuto with a spell you need.
The original games weren't NES games. Faxanadu is a famicom-themed spinoff of Xanadu, which itself is a sequel to Dragon Slayer. Dragon Slayer and Xanadu are much more popular than the famicom spin-off.
It's also more accurate to say Zelda II is like Xanadu, than that Fauxanadu is like Zelda II, considering Xanadu predates Zelda II. The true progression would probably be something like this:
Zelda 1 -> Maze of Galious (Konami) -> Xanadu (Falcom) -> Fauxanadu
As Xanadu is clearly inspired by Maze of Galious, which itself was essentially a side scrolling Zelda title, and Fauxanadu is a pretty logical evolution of Xanadu.
It all comes back around with Xanadu 2, which is basically a Zelda III clone.
It was extremely popular and it's objectively a great game. You don't know what you're talking about.
Astral Dog
Member
I did not know we wanted a sequel to Zelda II, but after ALBW, i guess it could happen
SoldnerKei
Member
I always wanted it, but in 3D environments
then I realized that it was pretty much Dark Souls
then I realized that it was pretty much Dark Souls
Yup, it sold almost as much as A Link to the Past and did well for a sequel and got rereleased along with The Legend of Zelda 1.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda
1987 NES Legend of Zelda 6.51
1988 NES Zelda II: Adventure of Link 4.38
1992 SNES The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 4.61
It was very popular when it came out (including merchandising), and it wasn't until recent years that its been looked down on when that really wasn't the case when it came out. It was a great game, just different than the first Zelda.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I really don't like Zelda II, but I'd love to see a sequel to it, anyways. It has a lot of cool ideas that I'd love to see Aonuma and Co. revisit.
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
How about a new IP that is heavily inspired by the gameplay of Zelda 2? No reason for it to be a Zelda game. In fact, I feel like that would do more harm than good, as people would reject it for being too different, much like they did when Zelda 2 originally released.
Just give me more understandable NPCs, a game that's possible to beat without a guide, a revamped magic system, get rid of the lives system, make falling in pits not equal instant death, and just generally make it feel a bit more modern, but retain the classic gameplay.
Just give me more understandable NPCs, a game that's possible to beat without a guide, a revamped magic system, get rid of the lives system, make falling in pits not equal instant death, and just generally make it feel a bit more modern, but retain the classic gameplay.
Yup, it sold almost as much as A Link to the Past and did well for a sequel and got rereleased along with The Legend of Zelda 1.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda
1987 NES Legend of Zelda 6.51
1988 NES Zelda II: Adventure of Link 4.38
1992 SNES The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 4.61
It was very popular when it came out (including merchandising), and it wasn't until recent years that its been looked down on when that really wasn't the case when it came out. It was a great game, just different than the first Zelda.
And, actually, in those days, a sequel being dramatically different wasn't uncommon.
See Mario 2, Wonderboy 2, Castlevania 2, etc.
go easy on him, he's probably a kid
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
I wouldn't want it. Would want a Zelda that plays more like Ys however.
While I'm certainly not complaining, it's odd for me to see Wonderboy/Monster World praised amongst retro gamers while Zelda II is slammed. They're very similar style games IMO, especially the later Monster World games. The difference is Monster World is much more refined and easier.
I pretty much like all games that play like this. Popful Mail, Fauxanadu, Ys III, etc. This is a style of games that appeal to me quite a bit.
What you are describing is essentially Wonderboy/Monster World.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It's the worst Zelda game (not counting CDi games and spinoffs, obviously), so nah. That said, I wouldn't mind some more light RPG elements. They started a bit in Skyward Sword, with the item upgrades and such. Do bring in a bit more of that to make the experience deeper, by all means
These sorts of comments seem extremely short sighted or unimaginative. Was Metroid Zero Mission just Metroid 1 with prettier graphics, antiquated gameplay and all? Presumably, a Zelda II remake or sequel to improve upon what the original game did well while fixing it's faults. Like virtually every nintendo sequel ever does.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
I'd like another Zelda II, sure.
KojiKnight
Member
I'd settle for an updated remake actually. Zelda 2 is a great game with a lot of great features that would have made a great series. If Zelda 2 was considered a "side story" then Shiggy should have done the right thing and made it different series all together.
Actually that's a good point, Shiggy bring back Zelda 2 and make it a game focusing on Zelda! Bam, best of both worlds.
Actually that's a good point, Shiggy bring back Zelda 2 and make it a game focusing on Zelda! Bam, best of both worlds.
This reads like you are both directly pointing at while trying to completely avoid Shovel Knight.
deltatheta
Member
Enemies don't drop health, they only drop blue and red magic jars (red which completely fills your magic). But there's magic to heal yourself, which takes 2-3 blue jars depending on your magic level. So because of this mechanic, enemies do drop health in an oblique way.
the fact that we even have this thread when you can play shovel knight, right now, on multiple nintendo systems is just bizarre
flatearthpandas
Member
I actually fired up Zelda II the other night.
Could live without a sequel.
Could live without a sequel.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Pretty fucking badly, but nowhere near as bad as a new 2D Metroid.
Same here. Shovel Knight has elements of it at least..
I also want a new Simon's Quest style Castlevania. I loved going to towns and the day night aspect of it.
It wasn;t even a hard game. As a kid (in the 6th grade) I beat it and then replayed it and beat it with attack level 1 for a challenge. The dragon boss late in the game took 96 hits to kill with attack level 1.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
If we didn't get a sequel from Nintendo in more than 20 years, why do you desperate hope, that they will do it now? I know your Nintendo fans dream of Nintendo announcing one day a sequel to this game and a Metroid Prime 4 and a Startropics 3, but these are always made for dream threads and not for reality.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Wouldn't mind a 2.5D Zelda II sequel.
