ElBoxyBrown
Banned
There could be a separate thread on this if it catches on. Some of what she says is pretty eye opening about the Alamo.
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Tim League of Alamo Drafthouse extends mercy to noted blogger/molester
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There could be a separate thread on this if it catches on. Some of what she says is pretty eye opening about the Alamo.
Welcome to the world of women. Where predators get second chances (and people chomp at the bit to give it to these poor, white men who just made a mistake), women are made to feel like prudish bitches if they can't handle the sexist "jokes" and "fun" (or if they get upset at sexual advances), and where your entire career can be ruined by not sleeping with someone (while people are told that you did). I would wager that sleeping with said person would probably ruin her career as well. She would get labelled.
This is the nail in the coffin, I think. It kind of already was, but I was giving more leniency to how long I would wait to see if they fix shit. I was effing excited as hell an Alamo was opening up near me, but not anymore. I'm not surprised, that's for sure.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Not to take away from the specif focus on DF and League, but that post also sounds like it should open up some discussions about the broad film review/geek community. If that's who I think it is, her story has always been a real blemish on that community and I'm sure there are many others with similar tales. It's great was given an opportunity to speak.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I think some people assumed the Alamo was better than that. It's no secret that film criticism is heavily male skewed.
Yeaaah that's messed up. If Tim is using recovery as a cover, that's...really messed up. Devin's letter genuinely reads like someone who is going through recovery pretty thoroughly - but if he hasn't, oof.
broncobuster
Banned
I remember a study about this from last year,
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...cs-outnumbered-by-male-counterparts-new-study
In short, yeah. And the study doesn't break down by race, which is another disparity in film criticism.
Count Dookkake
Member
I am getting reports that Daily Beast is about to drop a big story about another key figure at FF.
Note the absence of a certain longtime advertising/support partner.
This will most likely not be cool news.
Note the absence of a certain longtime advertising/support partner.
This will most likely not be cool news.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Goddammit. What now.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Wow, I was just thinking League might've gotten this out of the news...
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Fantastic Fest is like, this week isn't it?
edit: Shit, it's tomorrow.
edit: Shit, it's tomorrow.
Count Dookkake
Member
Yep. I suspect we'll see the article tomorrow.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
If they're timing it specifically to drop the day of the festival, that's either real malicious, or it's a kindness. I can't tell which.
Risible
Member
I'm assuming a kindness as it's too late for people/vendors to drop out/not buy tickets now.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Yeah, that was my first reaction. Although I confess I don't know enough about FF to even notice a major advertiser isn't involved.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's what I was thinking. It's too soon for anyone to really cancel any of their shit and not take a huge bath.
But it also kinda puts a huge fucking damper on the fest itself if it ends up being big.
I'm imagining a scenario where everyone's basically stuck in Austin for a festival nobody really wants to celebrate because all anyone can talk about is Faraci, League, and whatever gross thing Deadline's waiting to drop from their hindparts like a pigeon flying by.
But it also kinda puts a huge fucking damper on the fest itself if it ends up being big.
I'm imagining a scenario where everyone's basically stuck in Austin for a festival nobody really wants to celebrate because all anyone can talk about is Faraci, League, and whatever gross thing Deadline's waiting to drop from their hindparts like a pigeon flying by.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Daily Beast
Count Dookkake
Member
Take a look at Tim Doyle's twitter.
@NakatomiTim
Yeah, I had a brainfart. Already edited.
@NakatomiTim
Yeah, I had a brainfart. Already edited.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Oh jeez.
my name is ed
Banned
Guessing it's about Knowles then
A damning account of the culture at Alamo. Such a shame. I've loved Alamo since I first went to check out Snakes on a Plane in the first couple weeks of my freshman year in college. I used to live a couple blocks away from the Ritz and went to a lot of terror Tuesdays and weird Wednesdays.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yeah, thinking it is something bad about AICN based on the tweets.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Yeesh. I wonder what's going on with Knowles and AICN.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
If Knowles was specifically disinvited as that person claims...
I hope the latter instead of the former. Right now, it's too vague. AICN twitter account hasn't been updated since 2013. And their website looks like how it was when I visited years ago.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
If it's true Daily Beast is going to drop a story about "a key figure", and it's true Knowles has been disinvited, that seems much more likely that he's been accused of something. But that's a lot of if's.
Count Dookkake
Member
Yeah, if the allegations I've heard are true, then it is over. I guess Daily Beast are waiting for someone to go on record.
Over for Alamo or Tim or AICN?
LA's local Cinefamily (film community/screening etc) is going through a lot of crazy shit like this too at the moment, this makes me think that, and it would be best, Drafthouse doesn't open their LA theater that they're planning downtown.
I mean, the community isn't going to go for it. At all. Cinefamily is pretty much shuttered now. I was excited to have a Drafthouse here in LA but now I'd rather they kind of fuck off.
I mean, the community isn't going to go for it. At all. Cinefamily is pretty much shuttered now. I was excited to have a Drafthouse here in LA but now I'd rather they kind of fuck off.
Whoa
PhoncipleBone
Banned
What are the allegations you have heard? And from where? Just curious.
Yeah, a full bar, strict anti-phone use, etc. ain't gonna wash the stink off the Drafthouse brand.
Count Dookkake
Member
AICN.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Knowles has had a cloud of dirt and fucked shit foaming around his ankles like Pig Pen for something around 10 years now. His weird stillborn web-show was some sort of financial boondoggle, and one of the first film community controversies I can remember had to do with that whole "Joe Hallenbeck" contributor to AICN getting busted for a bootleg ring or whatever.
Basically, if Daily Beast has something on Knowles, I wouldn't be surprised.
Although
1) framing this as being about "a key figure at FF" when it's a story about fuckin' KNOWLES and
2) attributing this to Deadline instead of Daily Beast makes the initial post that brought this thread back to life basically completely wrong in pretty much every way.
This sounds more like it has zero to do with Fantastic Fest and is just a warning that AICN is finally getting put out of its misery sometime tomorrow.
Basically, if Daily Beast has something on Knowles, I wouldn't be surprised.
Although
1) framing this as being about "a key figure at FF" when it's a story about fuckin' KNOWLES and
2) attributing this to Deadline instead of Daily Beast makes the initial post that brought this thread back to life basically completely wrong in pretty much every way.
This sounds more like it has zero to do with Fantastic Fest and is just a warning that AICN is finally getting put out of its misery sometime tomorrow.
Count Dookkake
Member
lol at "completely wrong." Deadline, Daily Beast. Whatever. It was corrected in minutes.
FWIW, Knowles was a founder of FF and is usually all over it. AICN has been linked with the fest since its inception.
FWIW, Knowles was a founder of FF and is usually all over it. AICN has been linked with the fest since its inception.
Slightly unrelated, but AICN coming up made me think about it. I used to visit that site everyday like 10 years ago. Then it kind of started to gross me out so I stopped. Same with /Film and the /Filmcast. And AwardsDaily. And a bunch of others probably (CinemaSins, RedLetterMedia?). Is that just, like, how a relationship with a film website works these days? You read them until you realize they are kind of gross, or they collapse up their own asses, or are revealed to be pieces of shit, and then you stop? Is that just how this shit works?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Just start a completely different thread dude
Or don't. You suck at this for the most part. There was that bit upthread where you saw a thing on a facebook page, then couldn't find it, then thought it wasn't there, then found it again, and never once actually posted whatever the fuck it was you were talking about.
Kinda, yeah. Once the studios (and larger legitimate news services) figured out how easy it was to turn the enthusiast press into marks, they just... did it.
Which was generally to the benefit of everyone involved, except for the readers, except by that point the readers had been trained to accept rewritten press releases and pure, empty conjecture as quality content, so they were basically benefitting too, so far as they were concerned.
(I know Slashfilm is trash, but I'd thought the podcast was at least still okay. Haven't listened in a long time, are Devindra & David no longer doing it? If it's the full-on Sciretta show I can't imagine it stays good)
Count Dookkake
Member
Jesus, you are insufferable. lol.
Edited in 6 minutes.
Edited in 6 minutes.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Yup. Or they get that AV Club redesign and you never go back because you can't find reviews anymore.
Fancy Clown
Member
Or they are too good for this world and are forced to close shop because people didn't want to visit a film site with actually insightful analysis.
#RIPDissolve
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They were too good for the audience they served.
BlackDoomShadow
Member
Does anyone even browse AICN anymore? I haven't heard that name in like a decade at least.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
The last time I heard anything about AICN was some shady crowdfunding thing that pissed a lot of people off.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, that was his shitty webseries
The one or two times I visited the site, it came across snooty.
I dropped off of AICN when Harry's web series thing started coming out, the one that got kickstarted. That was after I realized there was no salvaging that site. A lot of the long time posters in the comments section had been gone for some time now and Harry had done jack shit in terms of updating a site that was already several years out of date in almost every aspect. It was a zombie at that point and I can't imagine much has changed since my last visit which was around the time Game of Thrones was just starting.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I am really curious what Jeremy Smith (Mr. Beaks) is going to write in his book. I always wondered who it was that was gonna finally autopsy this bloated body of the wild west days of online film fandom, and I'm glad its him. I thought for sure Faraci was going to beat him to it at one point, and luckily that did not happen.
Fancy Clown
Member
In what way? They had a broad appreciation for all manner of films and had a pretty friendly and engaged community of commenters. They ran multiple appreciation pieces of Cameron's Aliens! It wasn't all just breakdowns of classic foriegn cinema (which wouldn't have been snooty either).