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Crysis 2 pulled from Steam Store, [Move To New Thread, See Last Post For Link]
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The Antitype
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EA is OBVIOUSLY going to use BF3, Mass Effect 3 and Star Wars Old Republic as exclusive, killer-apps for their download service.
Why do you think Valve trojan-horsed Steam into every copy of Half-Life 2 when it was still an early piece of shit? Because they knew the only way to get the snowball rolling was to force people onto the service with a game they wanted.
It's not an unfair or unintelligent business practice. You use what you have (anticipated games) to get what you want (users on your service).
Why do you think Valve trojan-horsed Steam into every copy of Half-Life 2 when it was still an early piece of shit? Because they knew the only way to get the snowball rolling was to force people onto the service with a game they wanted.
It's not an unfair or unintelligent business practice. You use what you have (anticipated games) to get what you want (users on your service).
indigo-cyclops
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definitely agree with you. I love aand prefer steam. was just saying origin is a program like steam. I don't like the idea of EA being so weird about their games. guess it cuts out the middle man or some bullshit(._.) said:
szaromir said:
No, it doesn't, you say Steam adds a delay for running games, I say that is pure bullshit and doesn't happen to me. So your PC is not "fine". There is something called "configuration", you should try it.
Steam offers me a service, and I like that service so I prefer using it. Is that concept so hard for you to understand?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
My Origin experience was pretty painless, but I was just redeeming a code for ME2 that koji gave me. I haven't tried to actually buy anything yet.
If EA stops supporting Steam then I'll stop supporting them. I use Steam primarily for the convenience factor and I'm not looking to add more digital download services to my list. I will be disappointed by this decision but I feel as if I don't really need their games and so I can deal with it if need be.
Once again, the main point of contention (at least for me) is NOT that EA pulled Crysis 2 from Steam at all. This would be a non-issue if it were pulled from Steam and made an Origin exclusive -- no one should have any arguments about that as it is exactly what Valve does with its own titles. The main point of contention (for most people I hope) is that the game is available for all other DD outlets EXCEPT for Steam.
goldenpp72
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(._.) said:
Oh I did, I'm just wondering from a consumer perspective how this is 'wrong', steam has a sort of monopoly here and it's natural others will try and probably fail to take them down. All the same, EA has some big hitters and if I were launching a new service like steam, i'd do the same thing.
Not good for the consumer, but then again I don't think valve would play ball in reverse either.
evil solrac v3.0
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meh, I'll buy it elsewhere.
The Antitype said:
I've been preaching this for a while about why they're going to do it. It doesn't mean it's not asinine. They're not competing with Steam in 2011. That battle was fought years ago. All they're accomplishing now is pissing people off. The extra money they'll make will not be offset by the money they lose in lost sales.
The Antitype
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1-D_FTW said:
Fair enough. They think the window to compete with Steam is still open. We'll see if they're right or wrong.
Makes sense. I'm surprised they haven't done it sooner. Could see this coming with all of the sales for buying directly from their site over the past couple of years.
As awesome as Steam as a service is, there is certainly no reason for other publishers to not be allowed to have their own storefront. Or is Valve going to start selling their games on other services?
Yeah, wonder how that will turn out.
As awesome as Steam as a service is, there is certainly no reason for other publishers to not be allowed to have their own storefront. Or is Valve going to start selling their games on other services?
Corto said:
Yeah, wonder how that will turn out.
You assume that all people are blind Valve sheep and a company like EA can't reach them otherwise. You're wrong, people are willing to spend $300 to play one game on a console they otherwise wouldn't have, they'll be willing to download a game outside of Steam, too.1-D_FTW said:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I will still be buying ME3 and BF3. Just no sure if I will go retail or not.
EA pulled this same dick move with Gametap a few years ago. They pulled about 70 titles off of the service like the Origin games so you couldn't play them anymore. It didn't matter whether you were halfway through the game, you were pretty much screwed. It soured me to the whole subscription gaming thing.
Guess what EA?
BF3 is now a non purchasification.
This is the straw that broke the camels back.
1. Limited edition maps, split the community before the game is even launched!
2. How that bodes for the future of the game, (Not well!)
3. Stupid retailer crap.
4. Only Origin?
P Shaw to you I say!
This is like the record companies trying to fight itunes. Guess what EA? Ya aint gonna win.
BF3 is now a non purchasification.
This is the straw that broke the camels back.
1. Limited edition maps, split the community before the game is even launched!
2. How that bodes for the future of the game, (Not well!)
3. Stupid retailer crap.
4. Only Origin?
P Shaw to you I say!
This is like the record companies trying to fight itunes. Guess what EA? Ya aint gonna win.
I don't think there is anything really wrong with it. its just an inconvenience to the many many people who prefer using steam. Valve has been in the DD business a lot longer than EA has. they have already established themselves. Their games have a reliable and trusted way to be distributed plus a client that works really well. Nobody would be inconvenienced if say they didn't bring their games to this new thing EA is launching. I think that question just doesn't really make the kind of point I believe you are trying to make.goldenpp72 said:
so i registered some of my EA cdkeys on Origin ...
ones that worked:
crysis2 limited edition (bought from direct2drive)
medal of honor (bought from steam)
c&c red alert 3 (bought from steam)
mass effect 2 (bought from steam)
need 4 speed hot pursuit (bought from direct2drive)
dead space 2 (bought from steam)
battlefield bad company 2 digital deluxe version (bought from steam)
burnout paradise the ultimate box (bought from steam)
dragon age origins ultimate edition (bought from wal mart)
ones that i was unable to register:
dead space (from steam. there's no cdkey)
mass effect 1 (from steam. cdkey doesn't work on origin)
c&c red alert 3 uprising (from steam. no cdkey)
crysis 1 (from steam. cdkey wont register)
crysis warhead (from steam. cdkey wont register)
battlefield 2 complete collection (bought from wal mart years ago. cdkey wont register)
battlefield 2142 (bought from walmart years ago. cdkey wont register)
would have been nice to get all my EA games on Origin ...but at least i could register some on there.
ones that worked:
crysis2 limited edition (bought from direct2drive)
medal of honor (bought from steam)
c&c red alert 3 (bought from steam)
mass effect 2 (bought from steam)
need 4 speed hot pursuit (bought from direct2drive)
dead space 2 (bought from steam)
battlefield bad company 2 digital deluxe version (bought from steam)
burnout paradise the ultimate box (bought from steam)
dragon age origins ultimate edition (bought from wal mart)
ones that i was unable to register:
dead space (from steam. there's no cdkey)
mass effect 1 (from steam. cdkey doesn't work on origin)
c&c red alert 3 uprising (from steam. no cdkey)
crysis 1 (from steam. cdkey wont register)
crysis warhead (from steam. cdkey wont register)
battlefield 2 complete collection (bought from wal mart years ago. cdkey wont register)
battlefield 2142 (bought from walmart years ago. cdkey wont register)
would have been nice to get all my EA games on Origin ...but at least i could register some on there.
ConradCervantes
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:jakncoke ice burn ciaossu.
The Big Rig
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It wouldn't surprise me if they brought Crysis 2 back if or when Origin starts building some...steam.
I see them trying to promote Origin by having their games on Origin only, but why just Steam? I don't understand that.
I see them trying to promote Origin by having their games on Origin only, but why just Steam? I don't understand that.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
Same.Snaku said:
I already have an online store I'm happy with..community features I'm happy with..a long standing service I have faith in.
EA wants to refuse to sell their product there? So be it..but thats where I buy online content for PC..period.
The Antitype
Banned
dwebo said:
Not anymore. Contract ended. Now I work for a far more evil company, for a lot more money.
And I don't have to try and talk up Need for Speed: The Run.
sflufan said:
Which is actually an interesting point. It goes back to my original question: how much does Valve charge developers/publishers for using the Steam service?
There may be a few reasons for them making this decision really. There is no question that Steam is the most popular service and would probably take more sales away from Origin than any other DD service. They could be factoring in the cost of using steam with the sales lost on their own DD service and come to the conclusion it makes more business sense to remove Steam completely out of the picture.
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