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Square Enix ships Tomb Raider 3.4M, Sleeping Dogs 1.75M, Hitman 3.6M
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Hypereides
Member
Hmmm, well sadly realistically speaking they may have to start cutting their developement budgets on high profile games or begin investing in much bigger marketing moves.
What are the current numbers for all 3 across both platforms?
EDIT: nvm.
What are the current numbers for all 3 across both platforms?
EDIT: nvm.
Excluding digital sales, even.
the game was 4-5 years in development, announced in Dec 2010! large marketing, it's clear that it had massive budget, it's underperformed in relation to expectations, typically 4-5m seems to be a 'popular' expected target by big publishers.
NeonZ
Member
Topic title is wrong. NA sales were 2/3 of Europe's ("In particular, NA sales force was inneffective"), not the other way around.
Why would you do that?
Member
Hitman was released earlier, so I can understand that.
Does this mean the European market is still holding strong, or that American markets just had a way sharper drop?
Or two third of all sales in EU, and only one third in NA.
It's amazing that so many game reviewers hold such importance, especially when considering the fact that the vast majority of these reviewers are incompetent at properly analyzing and critically reflecting on the games they are supposed to assess.
pieatorium
Member
If it comes close to 3.4 million in the first month not including digital downloads then it will easily sell 5 million lifetime.
It says that 2/3rds of the sales happened in Europe.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
More people should have bought Sleeping Dogs.
Mithos
Member
They seem to not care about lifetime, first month or fail.
Terra Firma
Banned
Ugh I hate how Metacritic gets to be a deciding factor for a lot of these developers and publishers. Some arbitrary score designations, random weighting, not to mention inclusion of inept and inane reviews into the formula makes it invalid yet publishers continue to use it as a benchmark.
Wait, I'm confused, aren't those the expected shipments and not the actual ones?
Let release all this game on Wii U then i will buy with full price no problem.
We don't know what it sold. Those are shipments. It could get another smaller shipment or it could not. Or are these even shipments? Lolz se can't even do earnings right.
Obviously no idea how the games did digitally.
The games did not meet expectations. Pretty bad news. Bye Wada.
DragonSworne
Banned
No, it says NA sales were 2/3 of European sales.
Is it really? it's simple
x -> sales in Europe
y -> sales in NA
y =0.66x NA 2/3 of Europe
total sales '1.66x'. x/1.66x = 0.6 or 2/3 of sales pretty much!
I think you're right. but it doesn't change much
Haunted
Member
They're saying that's what they expected these to sell, all three fell short of that.
Flightmare
Member
Indeed, I loved that game.
sublimit
Banned
Maybe they overshipped it but the game isn't selling as many actual copies as SE expected in order to cover its 5 year production costs.
It's confusing, but I'm guessing they are talking about shipped units, even if the title says expected sales
zerokoolpsx
Member
Everyone needs to buy Sleeping Dogs!
Sad to hear all 3 titles underperformed.
mugurumakensei
Member
To summarize.
Games failed to meet sales expectation.
Retailers cut prices.
SE had to reimburse the retailers for them having to sell the titles at less than suggested price.
Games failed to meet sales expectation.
Retailers cut prices.
SE had to reimburse the retailers for them having to sell the titles at less than suggested price.
Even if they made a Hitman game that Derrick would have loved, its not likely to sell 1 million units in a year, let alone 3.6. Tomb Raider will probably be near the top 10 of the NPD, but its not going to do 3.4 million in a month. Even shipped, thats ridiculous.
mocolostrocolos
Member
I bought Sleeping Dogs at the incredible price of 5 euros.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Sees metacritic score
What the hell is wrong with publishers putting so much weight into metacritic scores.
What the hell is wrong with publishers putting so much weight into metacritic scores.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Hitman was released 4 months before TR and also had Christmas sales under its belt
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
NA being 2/3 of EU sales is especially bad given NA is by far the larger HD console market.
I notice DQX isn't mentioned anywhere in the reasons for the extraordinary loss? What happened with that MSN article?
I notice DQX isn't mentioned anywhere in the reasons for the extraordinary loss? What happened with that MSN article?
I'm more surprised by it because I still have yet to see any concrete data that metascore affects sales. At best you have circumstancial evidence, but there are a lot of high score games that flounder in retail, and a few low score games that sell well.