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God Of War: Combat is still fast, No QTE, spirit of a classic fantasy adventure game

Manu

Member
The only thing that bothers me from the new combat system is that it does that Arkham/Naught Dog thing where your character automatically positions himself to continue the combo, like it skates towards the enemy. Just let me whiff attacks, it's a natural part of combat.
 

Nibel

Member
Seeing how they are removing the sex minigame (which is a good thing) and blood and gore seem to be extremly toned down, I wonder if they are aiming for a lower rating than usual

The idea of making the entire game a single tracking shot is fucking rad btw
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
Seeing how they are removing the sex minigame (which is a good thing) and blood and gore seem to be extremly toned down, I wonder if they are aiming for a lower rating than usual

The idea of making the entire game a single tracking shot is fucking rad btw


Was this actually confirmed somewhere? And i also agree it's a good thing.
 
Seeing how they are removing the sex minigame (which is a good thing) and blood and gore seem to be extremly toned down, I wonder if they are aiming for a lower rating than usual

The idea of making the entire game a single tracking shot is fucking rad btw
Doesn't seem toned done. We got a skull-splattered head crushing finisher in the recent E3 trailer. Not to mention the decapitations and bisections seen in other footage
 

Loudninja

Member
Doesn't seem toned done. We got a skull-splattered head crushing finisher in the recent E3 trailer. Not to mention the decapitations and bisections seen in other footage
Yeah, people have to just because every creature wont bleed red does not mean its not brutal.

He cut off heads and split some down the middle.


Was this actually confirmed somewhere? And i also agree it's a good thing.
Yep.
 
for me god of war 3 is still the best looking game ever and this is the first game for ps4 from santa monica. it will be an amazing ride i'm sure.

by the way this screenshot may be the most beautiful moment i have ever seen from a videogame.


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I am so pleased this isn't open world. After Horizon's Ubi-design, I dont trust sony's internal studios with doing open world gameplay. Also, I think in general the choice should be made on what's suits the title, rather than just forcing a genre.

Da fuq??? Please explain. Horizon is amazing.
 

Loudninja

Member
GI

Kratos didn’t quite display that level of nuance in the original God of War games. Is some of this characterization of him being retroactively applied?
I still think he lacks nuance in certain areas. He’s a struggling character. Pixar once sent out these rules for storytelling, and one of them talks about the hero failing over and over again. But you love him for it, because he gets back up every time he fails. That is the engagement with the character. This character doesn’t change overnight. He’s not going to sit there and have very deep, meaningful, emotional conversations with his son. He struggles this whole game to figure out his place in the world and how to relate to his kid. Because it’s important to him to change tomorrow, because he’s been blaming yesterday his whole life.
If you have the linear action of previous God of War games on one end of a spectrum, and open-world on the other, where does this new God of War fall?
I would say that action/adventure is squarely where we are suited. We’re definitely not open-world, but we’re kind of this interesting "super-wide linear" in the sense that the world has a greater sense of scale. We’re really encouraging the player to say “Hey, what’s that over there? I’d like to go check it out.” We’re not forcing them. We don’t force you to go find something, but when you do, you are rewarded. You are rewarded with things like “Wow, there’s an entire level over here!” And I think that sense of discovery is so important. Linearity can drive you through this fantastic story – you’re always going to be driven forward by the development and arc of the characters – but at any given point in this game, you can pull the lever on the bus and stop to look around, and then get back on the bus and keep going. Seamlessly integrating that, making it feel like it’s not a chore and you’re rewarded for it, that’s the big trick of this game. That’s the big play, to make it feel like you’re not just going down a hallway. To always feel like there’s a “why.”
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/g...2017/06/14/god-of-war-director-interview.aspx
 

Gbraga

Member
Seeing how they are removing the sex minigame (which is a good thing) and blood and gore seem to be extremly toned down, I wonder if they are aiming for a lower rating than usual

The idea of making the entire game a single tracking shot is fucking rad btw

I find that very interesting as well, and really fitting for the "outsider" angle, with Kratos not even speaking the common language. It may do wonders for the feeling of a journey through foreign lands.
 
I am so pleased this isn't open world. After Horizon's Ubi-design, I dont trust sony's internal studios with doing open world gameplay. Also, I think in general the choice should be made on what's suits the title, rather than just forcing a genre.

Didn't you love Mass Effect Andromeda?? Lol
 

hesido

Member
It feels like a totally different game due to the user controllable 3rd person perspective which keeps him REAL close. It's been a controlled camera shooting the fight arena up until now.
 
Wait, do Cory mean single-shot as in 2014's Birdman movie, all in one take? That's crazy if true. Has there even been a video game that did this?

I don't even understand how it would work in a game, I can't wait to play this game.

Edit: Yep, Inside does it and some other small games but I can't imagine a cinematic AAA doing it. It's gonna be interesting.
 
I don't even understand how it would work in a game, I can't wait to play this game.
You can see it in the E3 2016 footage, like how the camera swings behind his son during the fight with the troll and suddenly the troll speaks in "english" (because Atreus can understand the language), or how the moment when you shoot the arrow at the deer and the game subtly shifts control to you aiming the bow manually. Or the seamless transitions back to gameplay
 

Kinyou

Member
After last year's showing, the new trailer surprised me at how fast the combat looked. Looks even weightier and more powerful than the Blades of Chaos while being even more versatile

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You can really appreciate the animations when it's slowed down

Look at how every movement of the axe is weighty and how the hands twirl the weapon into the next attack and catch the downward momentum to swing into another blow. And then for the other attack, how Kratos is flipping the axe behind his back and catching it with his other hand.

I think that's part of what making the combat feel so heavy and forceful. By capturing the physical movement needed to pull of each strike, they can sell the weight and power of the attacks
I wonder how they'll handle the lock on. In those gifs the player looks relatively free to switch from enemy to enemy
 
You can see it in the E3 2016 footage, like how the camera swings behind his son during the fight with the troll and suddenly the troll speaks in "english" (because Atreus can understand the language), or how the moment when you shoot the arrow at the deer. Or the seamless transitions back to gameplay

Yes but I want to see how other characters fit in scenes, I think I've heard they shot some with up to 5 actors. Every set piece and how the plot advances it's going to be pretty interesting to see in one take.
 

jett

D-Member
How is this a QTE?

QTEs come in many flavors.

For big, elaborate boss battles, Barlog said, players can expect the “Track and Field” design, referring to the classic NES game in which players quickly spammed buttons to create a feeling of physical exertion. In dramatic sequences, God of War might ask the player to spam “X” or twirl the control sticks to mimic the action happening on screen.

Those are QTEs. Bayonetta and Metal Gear Rising have the same shit. It's garbage.
 
I would say that action/adventure is squarely where we are suited. We’re definitely not open-world, but we’re kind of this interesting "super-wide linear" in the sense that the world has a greater sense of scale. We’re really encouraging the player to say “Hey, what’s that over there? I’d like to go check it out.” We’re not forcing them. We don’t force you to go find something, but when you do, you are rewarded. You are rewarded with things like “Wow, there’s an entire level over here!” And I think that sense of discovery is so important. Linearity can drive you through this fantastic story – you’re always going to be driven forward by the development and arc of the characters – but at any given point in this game, you can pull the lever on the bus and stop to look around, and then get back on the bus and keep going. Seamlessly integrating that, making it feel like it’s not a chore and you’re rewarded for it, that’s the big trick of this game. That’s the big play, to make it feel like you’re not just going down a hallway. To always feel like there’s a “why.”

Sounds exactly like how ND evolved their level design when going from the UC1-3 to TLOU. Sounds great. Everything in the OP sounds great, actually.
 
This IS the next GOW chapter I wanted. Thank you!!!!! And hope for more sequels for this after the first one is successful. I wish this was coming this year as all the info has me excited even more.
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
I'll remain cautiously optimistic.

They're saying the right things, but I trust my eyes more than their words at this minute. Really hoping for a demo leading into release.

I'm still not sold on the Last of Us-ification of this franchise.
 

Bakercat

Member
Eh, whatever you say. I've never seen a third person over the shoulder camera game like this one have fast and fluid combat. It always feels slow and clunky to play, like you're waving through water.
 
I'm still not convinced this camera angle being close as fuck to the character works for a hack and slash game and the combat still doesn't look like it's going to be for me. Maybe it will surprise me, but I've been skeptic since the reveal.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
It's been such a long time since a dev did multiple interviews where my confidence in their game only went up each and every time.

I believe in Balrog ... this game is going to be so fucking great
 
So IGN in their facebook video today(Marty Silva and Alana Pearce) mentioned that the game is just one single cut from start till the end of the game. What does he mean by that?
Watch last year's trailer for a good idea. The game shifts from gameplay to cut scene seamlessly, without the normal cut into new camera angles. It just transitions the camera into a different perspective
 
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