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***DISCLAIMER 2***
I do not personally endorse (the opposite really) the contents of this OP, but I've tried to remain as neutral and objective as possible in the making of this thread.
***DISCLAIMER ***
Please keep PUA-related talks in this thread, if you're not interested in PUA you should head over to the Dating-Age thread.
Intro to the Pickup Arts
Okay, this is pretty simple. To pickup, is simply put, to meet and attract women; whether it's a one night-stand (SNL) or a long-term relationship (LTR). If you're in this thread, you're probably looking for an edge up in the game, and you've come to the right place for that. Just remember that it will take work, and you will only succeed if you dedicate yourself to improvement.
This thread can help you along the way though, and eventually you will achieve almost anything you want.
The natural and unnatural
There are countless ways to go about meeting and attracting the women of your dreams, but the concepts are relatively the same. Today, "game" can be divided into two categories: natural and unnatural. Unnatural game for a long time had been the staple of the seduction community. It included routines, canned-material, NLP, and etc. These approaches, however effective, aren't "natural" because they are calculated and planned out.
Natural Game is currently a growing trend within the community. The idea behind it is that to be natural, your interaction must flow with spontaneity from the moment you approach and open the girl. You display your naturally attractive personality in the interaction because this is "how you are."
A major problem people often run into when using unnatural game is when it comes to creating a long-term relationship. You weren't "being yourself" when you met and therefore not congruent with who you would be in the relationship. However, this is all assuming that you want to get in a relationship in the first place.
There are currently many long-standing schools of thought in pickup that teach tried and true scripted material. As of now, more and more natural game schools of thought are springing up almost every day.
Schools of Pickup
There are many PUA companies/groups to learn from. Each has its own approach to social interaction. There are similarities that you will see in some, and some universal concepts that all share. In any case you can find a direction to go. They are all proven successful approaches of pickup. For more information on each of the various school's you may go to their respective websites and check each one out yourself.
1. Venusian Arts/Mystery Method/Love Systems - Mystery/Savoy
Mystery Method, commonly referred to as MM, focuses on a linear step-by-step model of seduction combined with using scripted routines.
2. Gunwitch Method - Gunwitch
Gunwitch Method, commonly referred to as GWM, is a straightforward method of getting laid using sexual state and economic mindsets.
3. Speed Seduction - Ross Jeffries
Speed Seduction, commonly referred to as SS, is a mostly verbal method of seduction that utilizes many aspects of NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) and hypnosis. SS was the first major school in the seduction community.
4. Double Your Dating - David DeAngelo
Double Your Dating, commonly referred to as DYD, was the first school to explain seduction and dating in terms of evolutionary psychology. Its teachings focus on being "Cocky and Funny" and branch out into several other topics of seduction and manhood. DYD bleeds heavily into Natural Game.
Some Natural Game-focused companies in good standing:
1. PUA Training - Gambler
2. Vin DiClassified - Vin DiCarlo
3. Real Social Dynamics - Tyler Durden
4. Charisma Arts - Juggler
5. Enlightened Seduction - Zan Perrion
For more information on any specific company, go here: [link]
Recommended Reading
These are many books that aspiring PUAs can check out, all of which can help you in various ways. Each book will offer you different slices of information that will help you on this journey through pickup. Some of these books are available only in paperback, some only in ebook form, and some both:
1. The Game by Neil Strauss - A detailed memoir of one man's unique journey through the seduction community.
2. Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery - Explains Mystery Method, the most widely taught method of pickup today, made popular by Neil Strauss's "The Game" and the VH1 reality TV-show series, "The Pickup Artist."
3. Body Language by Allan Pease - Explanations of better body language and proper posture.
4. Awaken the Giant Within by Anthony Robbins - Inner game help and positive motivation.
5. Real World Seduction by Swinggcat - Teaches "being the prize" and using tension to seduce.
6. Introducing NLP by Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour - An introduction to NLP and more importantly effective communication skills regardless of what method you're using.
7. Secrets of Female Sexuality by David Shade - for powerful sexual framing.
8. My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday - for a look into the female mind on fantasies.
9. The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo - An excellent in-depth guide on how to think in terms of attraction and becoming a natural.
10. The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida - What it means to be a man.
11. The Zen of Meeting Women by Max Weiss - A nice, easy-going guide to natural game that combines Zen Buddhism with pickup.
...And that's just a starter list.
Reading any books related to pick up will only fill your mind with information. You will never truly progress if you do not go out and actually talk to women.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: I'm in love with.....how do I get her?
A: You have "oneitis." Go to [link]
Q: I like my best friend/This girl just want to be friends/I'm in the "Let's Just Be Friends" Zone
A: [link]
Q: What does (insert pickup-related term or acronym here) mean?
A: Here's a list of pickup terminology you will want to know in order to understand people here. [link]
Q: Is this an IOI?
A: List of IOIs [link]
Q: Where can I find a list of negs that I can use?
A: List of Negs [link]
Q: What's the first thing I should say to a woman/What are some good openers?
A: Collection of Openers [link]
Q: How do I use Myspace and/or Facebook to game?
A: Myspace game [link]
Facebook game [link]
Q: I get nervous before I approach women I don't know/I get anxious when I even think about approaching/I need help getting over my Approach Anxiety.
A: Approach Anxiety and getting over it [link] or [link]
What now?
There is a lot of great information on here at your disposal and always free help. The next step is to create goals you would like to achieve. You will be more content when you put a task to strive for and a date of when you want to achieve it.
Sources:
http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/1-vt44144.html?start=0
http://www.fastseduction.com/acronyms.shtml
I do not personally endorse (the opposite really) the contents of this OP, but I've tried to remain as neutral and objective as possible in the making of this thread.
***DISCLAIMER ***
Please keep PUA-related talks in this thread, if you're not interested in PUA you should head over to the Dating-Age thread.
Intro to the Pickup Arts
Okay, this is pretty simple. To pickup, is simply put, to meet and attract women; whether it's a one night-stand (SNL) or a long-term relationship (LTR). If you're in this thread, you're probably looking for an edge up in the game, and you've come to the right place for that. Just remember that it will take work, and you will only succeed if you dedicate yourself to improvement.
This thread can help you along the way though, and eventually you will achieve almost anything you want.
The natural and unnatural
There are countless ways to go about meeting and attracting the women of your dreams, but the concepts are relatively the same. Today, "game" can be divided into two categories: natural and unnatural. Unnatural game for a long time had been the staple of the seduction community. It included routines, canned-material, NLP, and etc. These approaches, however effective, aren't "natural" because they are calculated and planned out.
Natural Game is currently a growing trend within the community. The idea behind it is that to be natural, your interaction must flow with spontaneity from the moment you approach and open the girl. You display your naturally attractive personality in the interaction because this is "how you are."
A major problem people often run into when using unnatural game is when it comes to creating a long-term relationship. You weren't "being yourself" when you met and therefore not congruent with who you would be in the relationship. However, this is all assuming that you want to get in a relationship in the first place.
There are currently many long-standing schools of thought in pickup that teach tried and true scripted material. As of now, more and more natural game schools of thought are springing up almost every day.
Schools of Pickup
There are many PUA companies/groups to learn from. Each has its own approach to social interaction. There are similarities that you will see in some, and some universal concepts that all share. In any case you can find a direction to go. They are all proven successful approaches of pickup. For more information on each of the various school's you may go to their respective websites and check each one out yourself.
1. Venusian Arts/Mystery Method/Love Systems - Mystery/Savoy
Mystery Method, commonly referred to as MM, focuses on a linear step-by-step model of seduction combined with using scripted routines.
2. Gunwitch Method - Gunwitch
Gunwitch Method, commonly referred to as GWM, is a straightforward method of getting laid using sexual state and economic mindsets.
3. Speed Seduction - Ross Jeffries
Speed Seduction, commonly referred to as SS, is a mostly verbal method of seduction that utilizes many aspects of NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) and hypnosis. SS was the first major school in the seduction community.
4. Double Your Dating - David DeAngelo
Double Your Dating, commonly referred to as DYD, was the first school to explain seduction and dating in terms of evolutionary psychology. Its teachings focus on being "Cocky and Funny" and branch out into several other topics of seduction and manhood. DYD bleeds heavily into Natural Game.
Some Natural Game-focused companies in good standing:
1. PUA Training - Gambler
2. Vin DiClassified - Vin DiCarlo
3. Real Social Dynamics - Tyler Durden
4. Charisma Arts - Juggler
5. Enlightened Seduction - Zan Perrion
For more information on any specific company, go here: [link]
Recommended Reading
These are many books that aspiring PUAs can check out, all of which can help you in various ways. Each book will offer you different slices of information that will help you on this journey through pickup. Some of these books are available only in paperback, some only in ebook form, and some both:
1. The Game by Neil Strauss - A detailed memoir of one man's unique journey through the seduction community.
2. Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery - Explains Mystery Method, the most widely taught method of pickup today, made popular by Neil Strauss's "The Game" and the VH1 reality TV-show series, "The Pickup Artist."
3. Body Language by Allan Pease - Explanations of better body language and proper posture.
4. Awaken the Giant Within by Anthony Robbins - Inner game help and positive motivation.
5. Real World Seduction by Swinggcat - Teaches "being the prize" and using tension to seduce.
6. Introducing NLP by Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour - An introduction to NLP and more importantly effective communication skills regardless of what method you're using.
7. Secrets of Female Sexuality by David Shade - for powerful sexual framing.
8. My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday - for a look into the female mind on fantasies.
9. The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo - An excellent in-depth guide on how to think in terms of attraction and becoming a natural.
10. The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida - What it means to be a man.
11. The Zen of Meeting Women by Max Weiss - A nice, easy-going guide to natural game that combines Zen Buddhism with pickup.
...And that's just a starter list.
Reading any books related to pick up will only fill your mind with information. You will never truly progress if you do not go out and actually talk to women.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: I'm in love with.....how do I get her?
A: You have "oneitis." Go to [link]
Q: I like my best friend/This girl just want to be friends/I'm in the "Let's Just Be Friends" Zone
A: [link]
Q: What does (insert pickup-related term or acronym here) mean?
A: Here's a list of pickup terminology you will want to know in order to understand people here. [link]
Q: Is this an IOI?
A: List of IOIs [link]
Q: Where can I find a list of negs that I can use?
A: List of Negs [link]
Q: What's the first thing I should say to a woman/What are some good openers?
A: Collection of Openers [link]
Q: How do I use Myspace and/or Facebook to game?
A: Myspace game [link]
Facebook game [link]
Q: I get nervous before I approach women I don't know/I get anxious when I even think about approaching/I need help getting over my Approach Anxiety.
A: Approach Anxiety and getting over it [link] or [link]
What now?
There is a lot of great information on here at your disposal and always free help. The next step is to create goals you would like to achieve. You will be more content when you put a task to strive for and a date of when you want to achieve it.
Sources:
http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/1-vt44144.html?start=0
http://www.fastseduction.com/acronyms.shtml
