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New Fire Emblem for DS!
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InsaneZero
Member
So, now we get a Mystery of the Emblem remake now, huh?
Poor Gaiden, nobody cares.
Poor Gaiden, nobody cares.
Whoo, Mystery of the Emblem remake.
Though I still think they should have just stuck FE1+3 on the same card like they did with the original SNES remake of FE1.
I heard they did that because it was the anniversary of the Famicom or something, but they really probably just wanted to milk it.
Though I still think they should have just stuck FE1+3 on the same card like they did with the original SNES remake of FE1.
I heard they did that because it was the anniversary of the Famicom or something, but they really probably just wanted to milk it.
Hours Left
Member
Woot.
Thank goodness they've (presumably) moved away from the bland 3D art style of Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon.
Thank goodness they've (presumably) moved away from the bland 3D art style of Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
The original FE3 for the Super Famicon included a remake of FE1. Mystery of the Emblem is a direct sequel to Shadow Dragon.Bebpo said:
InsaneZero
Member
Bebpo said:
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Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Sweet. Still have to play Shadow Dragon too.
Would like to see FE6 since it ties into 7.
Would like to see FE6 since it ties into 7.
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
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Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
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Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
Please look like FE6-8
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Please look like FE6-8
Bebpo said:
Fire Emblem 3 was a remake of the original Fire Emblem with a second scenario added. Fire Emblem DS was a thoroughly mediocre second remake of the original Fire Emblem, only with the second scenario added in the first remake stripped away. Now they're remaking the remake.
Absolutely terrible. Intelligent Systems should be ashamed.
InsaneZero
Member
Bebpo said:
In a word: Yes.
Gaiden's a weird one that didn't exactly follow the formula that the original FE set.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Aw crap. Hype suddenly at zero.ethelred said:
Pureauthor
Member
What is... why...
If this is the case, then what was Shadow Dragon ever for?
If this is the case, then what was Shadow Dragon ever for?
InsaneZero
Member
Splitting up Book 1 and Book 2 for gains and profit?Pureauthor said:
Hours Left
Member
I don't think Book 1 is going to be on this cart. It's most likely to an expanded book 2, so it's going to be brand new to the majority of people outside of Japan. (Maybe it will be Gaiden and book 2... >_>)
FE2 is Fire Emblem Gaiden, there is no official numbering so fans have just give every entry a number. FE3 is a remake of the first game with a new scenario, Book 1 was the remake and Book 2 was the new scenario. This is probably just a remake of Book 2.Bebpo said:
These DS games should make fans rethink their stance though, or at least I think so. I'm still waiting for FE11.
ShockingAlberto
Member
HahaGunloc said:
I'm not saying they didn't change artstyles, but I would bet against it.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I think it should be mentioned that the Book 1 remake of the first game is actually shortened and has several characters cut out. The DS remake is more faithful to the actual first game, so it's not a remake of a remake at all.
I just beat the third game a few weeks ago, so I'm excited about this.
I wonder if FE4 could make it without censorship.
Shin Monshou no Nazo - something (New Mystery of the Emblem).
I just beat the third game a few weeks ago, so I'm excited about this.
AniHawk said:
I wonder if FE4 could make it without censorship.
It was a hilarious moment when I paired up two lovers only to have a support conversation reveal that they are probably brother and sister.
VOOK said:
Shin Monshou no Nazo - something (New Mystery of the Emblem).
I kind of frown upon remakes, but on the other hand, we'd finally get US releases for FE4 and FE5, so bring on the milking.AniHawk said:
Though hopefully for FE5 they include the original difficulty in there somewhere for a US release instead of toning it down considerably like they usually do. I'd like the option to choose between easy US modes and the original ball busting Japanese difficulties!
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
In a crazy fantasy world, we'd unlock Thracia 776 as a reward for completing FE4DS on Hard mode.FSLink said:I kind of frown upon remakes, but on the other hand, we'd finally get US releases for FE4 and FE5, so bring on the milking.
Though hopefully for FE5 they include the original difficulty in there somewhere for a US release instead of toning it down considerably like they usually do. I'd like the option to choose between easy US modes and the original ball busting Japanese difficulties!
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Shadow Dragon's hardest modes are supposedly about as hard as Thracia, so they probably wouldn't remove that option now. I would hate to see Genealogy toned down any more, though.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I STILL HAVEN'T BEAT THE FIRST ONE
FUCK
FUCK
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
To what extent? The first DS remake already added something like that.
Not every Fire Emblem needs full-fledged support conversations, just like not every Fire Emblem needs love systems or capturing. Let that be one of the defining features of the GBA entries (although I wouldn't complain if it was in, it's just not that important).
The hardest games in the series are FE5 (Thracia), maybe FE7 Hector Hard Mode, FE9 Maniac mode (Japan-only), and FEDS Hard 5 mode. FE5 is probably the hardest in terms of design, though.
Not every Fire Emblem needs full-fledged support conversations, just like not every Fire Emblem needs love systems or capturing. Let that be one of the defining features of the GBA entries (although I wouldn't complain if it was in, it's just not that important).
FSLink said:
The hardest games in the series are FE5 (Thracia), maybe FE7 Hector Hard Mode, FE9 Maniac mode (Japan-only), and FEDS Hard 5 mode. FE5 is probably the hardest in terms of design, though.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
EDIT: Sorry, double post.
InsaneZero
Member
Sir Ilpalazzo said:
FE4's love system can't be replicated due to it's rather unique nature, but support and capturing I can see put into future games. I loved capturing, it brought about so many different tactical options.
A Black Falcon
Member
Sir Ilpalazzo said:
That may be true, but still, separating them again is pretty inexcusable. Shadow Dragon should have included the whole game of FE3, not just the first half. Shadow Dragon is easily my least favorite FE game of the ones that have been released in the US, no question. It is cool that they left in all five or so difficulty levels though, finally a US FE game with no reduced difficulty, but still, the game has problems. The plot is simplistic compared to newer FE games and most of the character selection less interesting (so many generic guys...), it's missing gameplay features I'd expect like rescuing other characters or supports of some kind (though Radiant Dawn cutting back on them was too bad as well).
The poor CG-rendered art style doesn't exactly help either, of course. I've played 7 and 8 on the GBA so, so much, heck since getting a DS in 2007 I've probably played those two in it almost as much as most of my DS games all combined, and I'd gotten both of them several years earlier too. And the GC and Wii FE games do a fine job with both their 2d and 3d art. I don't know what happened with Shadow Dragon, but it is unfortunate.
Unfortunately, given series history, I'd expect this game to reuse SD's graphics engine. We'll see, hopefully the style will change, but I'm not really hopeful I think.
Anyway, as for this game, I also was hoping for a real new FE game, not another remake like the last one, particularly considering that that last one disappointed. Will this one be better? Hopefully, but still, I'd rather have seen something new I think, either for DS or Wii. Perhaps this will be great though, we'll see. And it will be nice to see an English official release of another classic FE game.
Glass Soldier
Banned
This can't be the only thing IS has been working on... right, guys?
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
This will almost certainly be an expanded version of book 2. I'm betting that Nintendo want to remake all of FE1-6 and release them outside of Japan at some point.
Personally, I don't see why they just translate the original VC versions and sell them for a higher price than the typical 900 points price. Would be a lot easier than making the games from scratch.
Re-using a graphics engine doesn't mean that they have to reuse sprites, but yeah I still wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Personally, I don't see why they just translate the original VC versions and sell them for a higher price than the typical 900 points price. Would be a lot easier than making the games from scratch.
Re-using a graphics engine doesn't mean that they have to reuse sprites, but yeah I still wouldn't be surprised if they do.
MidnightScott
Banned
Interesting, except I dumped Shadow Dragon. The only one I put some time into was The Sacred Stones. I also have Path of Radiance...:d
Hours Left
Member
I'm hoping that they add back most of the book 1 characters dropped from the original book 2. It seems like if you were not a teen or a pretty girl then you were dropped in favor of more teenagers.
Well, the artwork in the teaser video is already a big improvement over the artwork from Shadow Dragon. I'd like to see the graphics will get an overhaul too, it was one of the most frequently discusses problems most had with the game.ShockingAlberto said:
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I see they backed away from hiring popular hentai artist Shirow Masamune this time around.
I approve.
I approve.
SilverLunar
Member
OMG, neat!
I was pissed off that they didn't include the second book in the remake, now i can see why :lol
I was pissed off that they didn't include the second book in the remake, now i can see why :lol
mjemirzian
Banned
Sir Ilpalazzo said:
The FE series is only difficult if you're playing for rank. Any unranked games are open to all manner of abuse which I'm sure you're aware. It's why FE9 and FE DS can't be considered legitimate challenges.
You're only partially right about your list. FE5 SSS rank and FE7 HHM S rank are the two most difficult FE challenges. FE9 mania mode and FE DS Hard level 5 are only difficult if you restrain yourself from abusing the system because you have infinite turns to clear the game.
Anyway unlike a lot of fanboys I have no opinion on artistic preferences or reverence for the originals. IS and Nintendo are one of the few quality developers out there who cater to players of most skill levels. See SMG2 for a recent example. FE Fanboys are pretty terrifying when they start pseudo-intellectual bickering though.