CarbonatedFalcon
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letsbereasonable said:
At first I skimmed...and then I read the line they sort of snuck in about how the weapon turns you into a FUCKING blue dragon.
This thing is going to be wanted so badly by caster dps.
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At first I skimmed...and then I read the line they sort of snuck in about how the weapon turns you into a FUCKING blue dragon.
This thing is going to be wanted so badly by caster dps.
Freyjadour
Member
burgerdog said:
How difficult is that? I haven't bothered with either of these 5 mans yet.
I recall a lot of funny guild vent explosions during failed timed runs back in BC.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Tamanon said:
Blizzard said:
So it could be a battle ability like Deathbringer's Will (proc or on-use who knows) or it could be an outside-of-battle ability to turn you into a mount like how Medivh's Staff had the teleport to Karazhan.
I can't say for certain exactly what it will do, I'm just speculating, but the text there is fairly clear.
Freyjadour
Member
Rokam said:
Only if we can put a non-combat pet leash on him and make him fetch things.
notworksafe
Member
WTF is with that avatar, J-Rzez? You went from #1 cop to #1 serial killer?J-Rzez said:
I am disappoint.
Alex
Member
I guess Firelands has 6 bosses and will be the only raid of the tier. (7 including the new BH boss, but I don't give a shit about loot pinatas)
Their excuse for this is that when people have too much content they feel obligated to play too much.
This was actually said, this is a real thing.
Translation: We bled half our staff to Titan but have monstrously improved our ability to spin bullshit.
Maybe this tier will still be great, who knows, Sunwell was light on bosses and people liked it (so I hear, I never touched Sunwell and all of the issues with class balance and shit sounded like a nightmare to me).
Doesn't change that we're still getting bilked hard on raid content. Maybe for T13 we can fight each of Deathwing's wings then his head for the whole tier.
I have a feeling we'll be forced to do dailies in their new hubs in order to pad equipment from the low boss count.
You kill bosses fast enough, you get chests with an extra piece of loot and the Bear at the end.
Their excuse for this is that when people have too much content they feel obligated to play too much.
This was actually said, this is a real thing.
Translation: We bled half our staff to Titan but have monstrously improved our ability to spin bullshit.
Maybe this tier will still be great, who knows, Sunwell was light on bosses and people liked it (so I hear, I never touched Sunwell and all of the issues with class balance and shit sounded like a nightmare to me).
Doesn't change that we're still getting bilked hard on raid content. Maybe for T13 we can fight each of Deathwing's wings then his head for the whole tier.
I have a feeling we'll be forced to do dailies in their new hubs in order to pad equipment from the low boss count.
You kill bosses fast enough, you get chests with an extra piece of loot and the Bear at the end.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Yeah I read that (about Firelands only having 6 bosses) after posting earlier.
The game will slowly bleed off if that's how they are going to go about things. At least more people will be likely to cancel in the gaps between finishing/tiring of content (which will occur more rapidly if there is less of it) and new patches. For their intent to develop patches quicker, I still don't trust them to get them out in a timely manner.
The ideal for me would probably be the equivalent of a one or two new 5-mans or a one-off raid (e.g. Halion) be it distributed in dungeons, quests, or other features released every 2-3 months, and a significant piece of content (raid-type patch) every 4-6 months, perhaps a couple weeks longer depending on the length/breadth of the raid/PvP additions or whatever.
The game will slowly bleed off if that's how they are going to go about things. At least more people will be likely to cancel in the gaps between finishing/tiring of content (which will occur more rapidly if there is less of it) and new patches. For their intent to develop patches quicker, I still don't trust them to get them out in a timely manner.
The ideal for me would probably be the equivalent of a one or two new 5-mans or a one-off raid (e.g. Halion) be it distributed in dungeons, quests, or other features released every 2-3 months, and a significant piece of content (raid-type patch) every 4-6 months, perhaps a couple weeks longer depending on the length/breadth of the raid/PvP additions or whatever.
Alex
Member
Yeah, my issues are that:
1.) I don't care about alts anymore, I used to be kind of big on them, but nowadays I just want to play my main and it's offspec at most. I like 4.1, but it took too long and it's of minimum use for me in terms of content, not tweaks
2.) Our guild is decisively medium-end, which makes low boss counts kind of a bitch, we're sadly struggling with heroic mode kills and while we've got 5 down at the moment, getting repeats on them is a bit rough for our type being that if you take a second to sneeze during some of them it causes a wipe.
My main point of interest at the moment is that they've mentioned surprises and dropped hints at a new content venue, which this game desperately needs, I really want to see something from that.
1.) I don't care about alts anymore, I used to be kind of big on them, but nowadays I just want to play my main and it's offspec at most. I like 4.1, but it took too long and it's of minimum use for me in terms of content, not tweaks
2.) Our guild is decisively medium-end, which makes low boss counts kind of a bitch, we're sadly struggling with heroic mode kills and while we've got 5 down at the moment, getting repeats on them is a bit rough for our type being that if you take a second to sneeze during some of them it causes a wipe.
My main point of interest at the moment is that they've mentioned surprises and dropped hints at a new content venue, which this game desperately needs, I really want to see something from that.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
I like to hear that from them, I LOVE playing this game but nothing stays fun when it's an endless grind. The progression races will still be fun and that's what I'm all about.
notworksafe
Member
Okay fair enough.
I'm just annoyed that you've left all my sunglasses related Blizzard jokes...
Out in the cold.
I'm just annoyed that you've left all my sunglasses related Blizzard jokes...
Out in the cold.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You must be new.GLopez12 said:
Who liked Sunwell? Very few people actually played and of those that did, most found it was monstrously difficult for rewards little better than BT's.Alex said:
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Angry Grimace said:
That was the point of SWP, to feed those hardcore raiders.
I looooved Sunwell. Probably my favorite raid ever.Angry Grimace said:
All bosses were incredibly well designed (well, unless you consider class stacking to be a fatal flow), every boss was fresh and interesting, there was a lot of going on, everyone simply had to know what was their purpose, every boss had it's place and purpose as there were no useless trash bosses.
Really, I might be biased now, but I really do remember SWP times fondly. The bosses were challenging, but fun. And without limited attempts you could continuously see your guild's progress (progressing a single boss for say three weeks and seeing the slow, yet noticeable progress between every day as you inch towards the ultimate goal was quite enjoyable).
Well, except for M'uru, fuck this guy.
CassSept said:
I loved Sunwell, but my mage friend hated it. I think the classes that got sat for Sunwell probably hated it. You didn't need to sit mages to clear SWP, but they couldn't do what warlocks and hunters could do easily.
I also think a lot of people are remember Kara with rose colored glasses. Loved encounters and the lore but Karazhan had so much trash. From Curator to Aran was like 30 minutes of pure trash. Then from Aran to Prince was another huge trash clear. It wasn't even easily cleared trash, it was boring CC trash and when it first came out, trash that could easily kill your tank even if he did everything right and your healers were on the ball.
Still, Kara and Ulduar were tied for me for best dungeon atmosphere. ZG was also close though!
Freyjadour
Member
I am pretty relieved to no longer be raiding or I'd be pretty irritated. Blizzard's strategy with Raids feels like it has taken a full 180 from their promises at Blizzcon, etc. They aren't providing a higher level of content than ever before by cutting back on the number of encounters and areas they have to design, they're just struggling to bring the quality up from a level of pure mediocrity. Thanks for making "not-shitty" encounters I suppose.
The lack of their A Team on WoW has really made itself apparent in the last few years.
I love this sort of PR spin. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, INFINITY
The lack of their A Team on WoW has really made itself apparent in the last few years.
I love this sort of PR spin. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, INFINITY
man of science
Neo Member
When I quit right before Burning Crusade my guild was doing MC, BWL and ZG, so I feel like I never left, content-wise. Priest is 79 so I'm most looking forward to the 5-man Cata content and the troll heroics. Loved ZG back in the day and I loved the new Stranglethorn quest line. Never played ZA so it's new for me.
Alex
Member
If 4.3 isn't terribly far behind 4.2, then it'll probably be a good net gain, that's one positive light to it I suppose.
We'd still be down content compared to WOTLK, but unlike WOTLK we had a good opening raid tier. That is an important thing that I don't take to into account, I suppose. Naxxramas 80 was a joke.
My favorite raid tiers are probably Ulduar and then this current one (I think the hard modes this tier are really, really well designed, but overtuned early on), SSC/TK behind that.
I also think they're redo something dealing with AQ into a 5 man, as you folks are saying. It's ripe for plucking with the current themes and remade ZG/ZA are proving rather successful and interesting, at least in my circles.
That and the whole bit with C'thun datamining from the PTR.
We'd still be down content compared to WOTLK, but unlike WOTLK we had a good opening raid tier. That is an important thing that I don't take to into account, I suppose. Naxxramas 80 was a joke.
My favorite raid tiers are probably Ulduar and then this current one (I think the hard modes this tier are really, really well designed, but overtuned early on), SSC/TK behind that.
I also think they're redo something dealing with AQ into a 5 man, as you folks are saying. It's ripe for plucking with the current themes and remade ZG/ZA are proving rather successful and interesting, at least in my circles.
That and the whole bit with C'thun datamining from the PTR.
Well, my at the time guild master was a mage so they were privileged compared to other guildsMiletius said:
But I know what happened in most of guilds in that tier.With Kara I completely agree. The raid itself might have been atmospheric, but it was horribly tedious. I liked the feel of it but I don't really hold high esteem of it overall.
Ulduar was absolutely ace though. Really a fantastic dungeon on all fronts. I still prefer SWP (I really love BE lore and atmosphere so one of main complaints is eliminated for me. Additionally my guild was very closely tight-knit at the time, so that may retrospectively raise my opinion of the raid itself), but Uldu comes close second (some of minor annoyances like redundant trash bosses could have been eliminated...). Shame it wasn't given a proper chance to shine, how a raid like that could be the quickest tier to be ended forcefully by Blizz is completely beyond me.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
DeathNote said:
Yeah 100% threat doesn't mean you will pull the boss.
The Thrall related questchain in 4.2 sounds kind of nuts
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2277-4.2-Preview-Elemental-Bonds-Quest-Line
Thrall dies oh noes...sort of
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2277-4.2-Preview-Elemental-Bonds-Quest-Line
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You pull at 110% threat in melee range and 130% threat at range.DeathNote said:
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
vilmer_ said:
Not a huge fan of the DK armor this tier though it has the pro of not having a Burger King face.
The paladin T12 is pretty sexy though. Reminiscent of the judgment set.
The others aren't very distinctive to me.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Paladin Dresses are backCarbonatedFalcon said:
CarbonatedFalcon
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Angry Grimace said:
Nothing says plate armor like a dress.