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League of Legends |OT13| Diamond is Unreachable
- Thread starter Dobkeratops
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Chromas are the same as skins, they've got X number of artists, they prioritize in a similar way (popular champions get more skins, easy to make champions get more skins, in line for rework champions get none and rest rotate based on timing, ideas, time since last skin, promos, etc)
With ur idea ull just get a lot of ppl complaining about how less popular choice champs only get chromas or whatever
Good chromas take time and they probably don't want to release a ton of skins at once cos it's probably bad business not to space out shit u want to sell
Ghost is Bad
Banned
i can make a chroma in 5 minutes.
Peanut Butter
Member
Can Rengar get a skin?
Or a Chroma?
*yawn*
Or a Chroma?
*yawn*
Stone Ocean
Member
Rengar can fuck off Kappa
Orochinagis
Member
I wish riot could lauch a new skin with chromas , all new skin sets.
So far all HoTS skins have tematic skills according to the skin now , old skins are getting reworked with thematic abilities too and lets not forget all HoTS skins have three chromas after you buy a skin, in every heroe.
Whats a good chroma for you?
Peanut Butter
Member
Blind pick
Orochinagis
Member
Poro mode? lol
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Lol wat
Technically, both hots and dotas character models blow leagues out of the water. From a detail, quality, and work put into them standpoint. This is mainly because the Source engine and Blizzards own internal engine have been worked on for 10+ years.
Like..there is no arguing that hots and dotas skins are better than leagues from various standpoints.
Now if you mean art, such as the pretty pictures they use during the loading screen, sure. But at that point it becomes subjective. Compare Pug Maw to monkey Brightwing for example, and the detail in Brightwings skin blows out pugmaw out of the water. (theyre comparable because both skins change the character into an animal. Brightwings goes all the way by replacing all character audio with various unique monkey sounds.)
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It's definitely the art style and they don't use outlines like League for the most part. Certain skins stick out, but if the skin looks like the environment they stick out less. That and League definitely prioritizes texture art, whilst HotS has more technical aspects to it(IE reflections, physics based destruction on various parts of the map.) Like, league definitely 'cheats' when it comes to how it renders out the map, whilst HotS just uses fully rendered 3D models for say, the towers or trees or obstructions within the environment.
So whilst you can argue that subjectively Leagues art is more attractive, it doesn't mean that they are better on a technical level.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
A screenshot won't really convey it well either >_> I can show a league screenshot and get the same result as well.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
not saying you don't noot
ppl ban champions that are frustrating more often than they ban champions that are actually op
so could riot, but they sucked and nobody bought them
personally i just don't like chromas, i think riot puts a lot of work on making champions readable even if they change shapes and colors a lot with skins, and chromas just muddle that. before chromas i very rarely had trouble telling champions apart, nowadays i tend to get confused a lot when i see a chroma because there's like a blue ezreal skin and also a lucian blue chroma and they just get mixed up a lot for me and stuff like that
but anyways, recent chromas have been better cos they do more than palette swapping and do cool texture changes as well. the meowkai chromas all have different emoji faces for instance
i also feel like viktor skins have all been pretty sucky. i didn't buy creator viktor cos that skinline is pretty lame imo, i want a cool looking viktor that's colorful
other game skins only have more polygons to them, the level of detail in the design, extra vfx, vo and animations, there's no other game like it
doto and hots skins feel like costumes, while league completely reimagines champions when they do skins. there's some good skins in those other games but no game comes close to league
idk why you're comparing two ugly, shitty skins tho, that's really weird (tho knowing you it's not surprising u went there lol)
BreezyLimbo
Banned
And you think other games don't do extra vfx, vo, or animations? Nah. They do.
.....That's just like, your opinion. It doesn't help you're saying other games don't do the same thing as league when they do in fact, do the same things as league. Just at a higher fidelity.
I'm comparing two skins that do a comparable thing-That is, turn two creatures(A void creature and a dragon fairy) into animals present in real life.(A pug, and a monkey. With wings.), and thus using the amount of effort put into both.(Pug'maw layers pug panting over his regular voice lines and changes vfx. Monkey'wing replaces all dialogue with monkey noises, changes the vfx to match the theme.)
HotS and DotA skins are a higher fidelity. I can't speak for DotA since I didn't spend time on their skins, but HotS skins do the same thing as league-changing vfx, vos, and animations. It just so happens they're a higher fidelity.
It's fine if you prefer leagues skins over other games. But to try and say that other games don't put the same effort in their skins, or to say that they are objectively better, is just sad stanning at that point.
idk most skins i've seen from both games are like "ok this is like this protoss dude with another helmet and another shoulderpad"
the ones that are like a completely new style are the minority
in league almost every skin you see is a complete makeover of the champion
i checked before posting, there's some cool skins but about half of them are like doto tier
doto tier skins in league are like 2%
not really, you're not even comparing to a released skin lol
they're two shitty skins i guess, not sure why you would judge both games by their shittiest
objectively better talks are pointless and boring, i'm just saying league skins are on a whole other dimension to other games, and i stand by it
it surprisingly is
i think it's my favorite funsies mode
Hydrophobic
Member
AFAIK the only things that change voice lines in dota are the arcana sets. Some sets will have special particle effects for certain spells, but not all of them.
voice lines are also rare in league, but vfx change a lot and nowadays they all get a custom recall and big model changes
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I mean if you want to compare released skins around similar price points
Pulsefire Ezreal-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ebQTanjbys
Space Lord Leoric-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtUnPmOFW0s
For release skins(Both released in February of Last year)
High Noon Jhin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1ibdemrLM
Star Princess Li-Ming-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgopuThHL-k
Let's go further back
From the release of both games(In this case, Illidans skin is from 2014 from when HotS was still in Alpha, and well..I'll pick a comparable melee character for League.)
Shan'Do Illidan(2014)-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyaDruMWRgg
Kata-I mean Night Raven Fiora(2012)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJebguI8tNk
While we're at it
DunkMaster Darius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwe4vMEFkJE
AzmoDunk-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihRYeNMOkzE
The point is, what League is doing isn't unique. And all the skins in HotS are complete makeovers, as they apply the, for example, 'What if Illidan was in the starcraft universe' so they tend to be completely new models.
Your critique of 'they just get a shoulderpad' is probably because you're confusing the master skins which tend to be earned after you reach a character to level 10, and they're purchaseable with in game currency, and they also tend to add onto their current model instead of giving them a new look.
Eh, the VFX is a lot worse, but the models are better for heroes.
Overall it seems like heroes is better in a technical sense, but is just stylistically worse. The VFX and the hero animations are all really underwhelming.
Looking at Illidan's run animation, it reminds me a lot like Udyr's. The difference is, Udyr is the exception in League, but those clunky looking animations are the norm in Heroes.
It's the most clear when you look at someone like Kerrigan.
Overall it seems like heroes is better in a technical sense, but is just stylistically worse. The VFX and the hero animations are all really underwhelming.
Looking at Illidan's run animation, it reminds me a lot like Udyr's. The difference is, Udyr is the exception in League, but those clunky looking animations are the norm in Heroes.
It's the most clear when you look at someone like Kerrigan.
I mean, that's kinda the given here. Shame, because the game fixes a lot of the problems that League has, but creates new worse issues.
yea maybe it's the master thing like u said, i looked at a bunch of champions and they all had like 3 extra shoulderpad type skins and then maybe 1 or 2 real new ones. thing about league is that with few exceptions, everyone has 3 or 4 skins that dramatically change how they look. even illaoi or taliyah who only have one look very different in their release skins
league just has so many skins and so much variety and they're almost all super high quality
also is it just me or is hots ugly overall? i used to think it looked pretty good and character models are certainly more detailed (like their mouths and eyes move and hsit) but the game just looks really ugly in those videos
just came from a 4 day vacation to this.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=7flow
went 4/0/16 last game with nami. also beat the infamous Kog/Lulu pair in lane. not sure what newt was talking about.
anyway I am back in my promos. but I am going to wait till I can duo with someone.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=7flow
went 4/0/16 last game with nami. also beat the infamous Kog/Lulu pair in lane. not sure what newt was talking about.
anyway I am back in my promos. but I am going to wait till I can duo with someone.
Orochinagis
Member
Not sure if Leona is pretty good for low elo climb right now or ADCs are pretty dumb to leona CC the hell out of them
Yeah probably. I have a Gold 4 acc if you want to duo, been playing with a lot of gaffers.
You're not seeing near 100% banrate on Lulu?
I've had 100% pick/ban on Lulu in my games recently, mostly bans though. It's funny when you see that the enemy support only picked Lulu because of fotm and will lose lane since he doesn't know how to play her.
KarneeKarnay
Member
Have you guys had any issues with input lag in the latest patch? For some reason wherever i click or press a key, it takes a second for a response.
I confirmed this by playing Urgot vs Shen. Seeing my q's go miles away was hilarious
That said it is a little annoying. Anyone heard of a fix for this?
I confirmed this by playing Urgot vs Shen. Seeing my q's go miles away was hilarious
That said it is a little annoying. Anyone heard of a fix for this?
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.co...ment=0002000200040000000000000002000000000000
So this year's skt skins won't be 750 RP skins. 975 with one of two 1350, then, perhaps.
So this year's skt skins won't be 750 RP skins. 975 with one of two 1350, then, perhaps.
Hydrophobic
Member
I don't think Lulu is going away for a bit.
why are people picking lulu and kog again
Hydrophobic
Member
People started picking Lulu because she was pretty good into Malz and Zyra in lane (you can 1-hit plants/voidlings with pix auto). Then people realized she's just in a decent spot. Kog probably started getting picked again in high elo because he doesn't auto lose trades botlane now that exhaust doesn't have the AS slow on it.
Lulu brings CC, has a decently strong lane-phase, fucks assassins, and buffs up allies fairly well.
Ah that makes sense. Exhaust nerf helping the bot lane meta.
I am just tired of lucians so anything is welcome
Hydrophobic
Member
Qt said on stream that before you'd get exhausted as soon as you went in to trade and that would lose the trade for most ADCs because you couldn't do shit. The nerf to exhaust helps out multiple shorter-range ADCs in lane. Also, ignite is way more fun to play in lane. I run ignite now most of them time when I don't think I need exhaust.
Edit:
FOREVER RED IS ON HYPE
I could never see myself taking ignite on true support Champs like nami.
Hydrophobic
Member
I mean, it depends on the enemy team but you should consider taking it sometimes on Nami. Any support can take ignite, especially ones that trade well in lane.