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What can Nintendo improve upon in Smash 4 Switch from a technical perspective?
- Thread starter ShadowFox08
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One of those ports is USB 3.0, so you can run a splitter through it.
xochipiltontli
Member
Better lighting/shaders/textures and Ice Climbers. Maybe increase the geometry of a couple of Wii era stages.
psychowave
Member
Clearly it'll come out alongside these.
What the hell, I need those so bad.
ShadowFox08
Member
Clearly it'll come out alongside these.
That is gonna sell like crazy! I don't mind the current x,y,a,b buttons, but would be nice if they were bigger. Analog triggers of course need to make it, and I would rather get a d pad instead of the 4 buttons we have on the left joycon.
Version 3.0
Member
Unless they've already done so, fix the run/jump inertia thing.
Yep. I'm fine with waiting for it too.
More directly, better lighting, anti-aliasing on trophy display, higher texures, higher poly models.
Dark Ninja
Member
I don't know why but I have a hard time seeing the characters on Smash Wii U. Make the characters bigger/ Zoom the camera in more.
Shadic7700
Member
I know Sakurai didn't want to but a Subspace Sequal would be so awesome.
Honestly, adding some kind of better single player content at all would be a win for me. Smash 4 was pretty underwhelming on that front, as much as I loved the game overall.
ShadowFox08
Member
All stages having 8 player versions would definitely be nice as well as a local and w/ friends tournament mode, the latter which shouldn't take any extra juice from a hardware perspective of course.. I'm hoping we get an option for turning off stage hazards as well. Smash tour shouldn't be taken out. It makes no sense to remove content like that. It's criminally underrated if you ask me. All that mode needs is a rebalance on items, but its still playable even with cpus.
Patrick Young
Member
Smash Bros. Double Dash!! Essentially add Tekken Tag Tournament style teams in there.
Which was only a thing with playing with CPUs. If there was no CPUs, it was 720p60.
Source, Digital Foundry:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-vs-mario-kart-8
I'll see myself out as I have nothing to say otherwise.
Yoshimitsu126
Member
New single player content like new event modes and expand on crazy special orders.
Oh and make a menu that finds mode easily.
Oh and make a menu that finds mode easily.
Vital Tundra
Member
1080p, better texture and shadow resolutions. I would love for some slight AO. Toggle-able stage hazards. Why can I pick and choose how I play almost every aspect of the game but turning off stage hazards is off limits? Its the same thing as items essentially. No custom move duplicates. I never bothered because the time it took to obtain them.
Abandapart82
Member
If they do port over the Wii U version they better do it quick. I'm talking like within the next year because if we do get smash 5 it won't be for another 2-3 years at the earliest. Part of me thinks Nintendo was surprised with how well the Switch was received and how wel its selling. They are probably looking to port a bunch of Wii U titles to keep the fans happy while they work on the true follow ups of their major franchises.
QuantumBro
Banned
Remove Time and Stock matches from Smash mode.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Clearly it'll come out alongside these.
That left joycon is useless by itself. I don't see Nintendo doing this.
LinkSlayer64
Member
Wait, wut? What do you mean by a splitter? A hub? Because you should be able to run a hub on any usb port.
blue_phazon
Member
I can see nintendo doing it as buying the joy-con pack seperate from the console. You'll never see a Switch console without "proper" joycons out of the box
Just being faithful to the original game.
Why would they remove features?
The Xtortionist
Member
Maybe supersampling while docked since the Wii U version was already 1080p?
RadioJoNES64
Banned
Better online features (2v2 with online friends) and more funny costumes.
Ice Climbers. With 8 players. 16 characters on screen.
At this point it should just be a new version of the game. I was looking forward to a rerelease near launch but that didn't happen and doesn't seem like it's going to happen. The game has been out for almost 3 years so just revamping for the next generation of Smash would make more sense than a simple rerelease because there isn't much to upgrade.
I mean, the right joycon is pretty useless too. This would very much be a novelty thing and probably not compatible with anything but Smash, if it existed.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, Reggie already name dropped Smash Bros as one of Switch game, from top of my head but I might be wrong on that.
It's no doubt that Smash is coming.
A hub, though you wouldn't have to worry about the bandwidth speed getting cut down on USB 3.0 (the GameCube Adapter runs on USB 2.0).
Triforce141
Member
Even bigger stages filled to the brim with stage hazards to make you say "Boy, this could fit 8 Ridleys"
And short load times
And short load times
Corrected you there - I'm sure that's what you meant anyway
Anyway, I like the way Smash Wii U looks, but there could be more use of modern shaders.
Which might have to be implemented anyways because if they wanna add Inklings with a splat mechanic, they want to have the stages look the part.
LinkSlayer64
Member
At a Max of 480 megabits, I don't think we'd have to worry about bandwidth loss on USB 2.0 that's 60mb per second, or 1mb per frame, and according to some brief documentation I found, GC controllers apparently send 64 bits of data on their serial interface.
I.e. they'd never have to make it so you could only use one specific port.
Ice Climbers, Wolf, and inklings would be a great start.
This speaks to me in ways I never thought possible.
Clearly it'll come out alongside these.
This speaks to me in ways I never thought possible.
Aye Aye. load times for smash have ballooned so much over the years. I swear day 1 smash 4 used to load a lot faster than it does currently.
Lord_Byron28
Member
I'd say given the amount of time that they have been quietly working away on Smash Bros for Switch. There could be a substantial amount of new content and some technical enhancements. Mainly I expect some slight technical enhancements in terms of resolution and overall optimization. I don't expect a massive change in overall visuals. My base expectations are low in terms of new content and I won't expect much in that regard. However, I hope given the time they've spent developing the title that they had time to add new characters, modes and refine the content.
The Switch version could be called something like Super Smash Bros. Legacy Tour or something and make it more of a celebration of the series including content from previous titles not just from 4. When the menu opens up there are four options you can select Fight, Smash, Melee, and Brawl. Each mode provides the same multiplayer options and modes as 4, one single player mode and one minigame mode and a unique physics engine based on the four Smash titles. Fight mode is based on Smash 4 offering most of the stages in both versions and the DLC, none of the older titles. The character roster also includes 5 newcomers and 3 returning vets that weren't in Smash 4 (Ice Climbers, Wolf and Snake). The roster stays the same throughout all fighting modes. The minigame mode is an enhanced Smash Tour and run. The Single-player mode is 4's all star mode. Multiplayer modes stay the same. Smash is based on the 64 version with 6 remade stages from 64 and a number of other stages from 4. 64 has classic mode as its single player and Home-run contest and break the targets for minigame modes. In addition to this mode's engine being based on 64. Melee is based on the Melee's engine offering 15 remade Melee stages in addition to some tracks from 4. Single player mode is an enhanced adventure mode from Melee. Minigame mode is race to the finish and board the platforms. Brawl mode is based on Brawl engine with 15 tracks from Brawl being remade and tracks from 4. Single player mode is Event mode while the minigame mode is Stage Builder. It's essentially the same amount of content from 4 just spread out amongst 4 modes. That's also factoring in that most of the work is done for them since they will be reusing a lot of content from 4.
The Switch version could be called something like Super Smash Bros. Legacy Tour or something and make it more of a celebration of the series including content from previous titles not just from 4. When the menu opens up there are four options you can select Fight, Smash, Melee, and Brawl. Each mode provides the same multiplayer options and modes as 4, one single player mode and one minigame mode and a unique physics engine based on the four Smash titles. Fight mode is based on Smash 4 offering most of the stages in both versions and the DLC, none of the older titles. The character roster also includes 5 newcomers and 3 returning vets that weren't in Smash 4 (Ice Climbers, Wolf and Snake). The roster stays the same throughout all fighting modes. The minigame mode is an enhanced Smash Tour and run. The Single-player mode is 4's all star mode. Multiplayer modes stay the same. Smash is based on the 64 version with 6 remade stages from 64 and a number of other stages from 4. 64 has classic mode as its single player and Home-run contest and break the targets for minigame modes. In addition to this mode's engine being based on 64. Melee is based on the Melee's engine offering 15 remade Melee stages in addition to some tracks from 4. Single player mode is an enhanced adventure mode from Melee. Minigame mode is race to the finish and board the platforms. Brawl mode is based on Brawl engine with 15 tracks from Brawl being remade and tracks from 4. Single player mode is Event mode while the minigame mode is Stage Builder. It's essentially the same amount of content from 4 just spread out amongst 4 modes. That's also factoring in that most of the work is done for them since they will be reusing a lot of content from 4.
I was mainly referring to the possibility of using 2 adapters without sacrificing rumble.
A quick profit isn't always worth it if it means watering down the brand.
LinkSlayer64
Member
Oh, yes the power issue, hrm. How much power does a USB 3.0 port provide?
It may just have to be a Rock Band thing, where they provide plug-powered hubs in new copies of the adapter.
xochipiltontli
Member
Give Lucas back his expressive hair too.
ShadowFox08
Member
How exactly is getting an enhanced port from a console that sold abysmally being watered down?
FloweryMarston
Member
honestly if they take too long i just want a new smash. Mario Kart 8 made sense because it was really close to the launch, i would think that smash would be something similar if it was a port. A proper smash for switch is much more interesting to me depending on the release.
Not much imo.
It's already 1080/60 and I don't see them redoing the character models to make them more detailed.
So what they can do and is feasible is to make stages look better. Especially the Wii stages. And they should fully remake the n64 stages imo because I think Dk jungle is an eyesore
It's already 1080/60 and I don't see them redoing the character models to make them more detailed.
So what they can do and is feasible is to make stages look better. Especially the Wii stages. And they should fully remake the n64 stages imo because I think Dk jungle is an eyesore
bbkkristian
Member
Balance those characters. I'm not asking for nerfs, but frame data buffs would be appreciated for lower tier characters.