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F'DUPTON 3: Back in the Tub with 5.0/5.5/6/7/several Inches of RAM-Flavoured Water
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The same people were also disgusted that anyone would ever think of paying money to play online. We had threads here daily calling out people as morons for ever paying for online. Now that Sony's doing it also those threads seem to have disappeared....
I know right! Sony is in the same boat as MS with their GDDR5 RAM trying to copy MS and make a media box. Stupid Sony should have just used DDR3 RAM if they were going to use so much for the OS right?
I'm guessing he's someone's alt account.
Metalmurphy
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Are games not software?
Duxxy3
Member
I don't know but this is 0.5 GB of RAM:
That seems a little off. Not seeing ANY jaggies.
He's just in denial because he's got hardware issues.
This seemed to be more os related functions that were hard to add post release. I remember reading somewhere that the wanted to implement your music playing in the background but some games wouldn't actually allow this to happen. It had to be per dev decision. Same with the xchat.
JonathanPower
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How so? You can easily take advantage of all your available memory, especially for caching data.
GoofsterStud
Member
This is stupid if it doesn't change.
If PS4 sells more (which is gauranteed at this point) developers would start utilizing the extra ram making the PS4 the ideal version in nearly every aspect.
Bad move Sony. :-(
Give developers 6 GB, you don't need to hog this much.
If PS4 sells more (which is gauranteed at this point) developers would start utilizing the extra ram making the PS4 the ideal version in nearly every aspect.
Bad move Sony. :-(
Give developers 6 GB, you don't need to hog this much.
Or maybe Sony fans aren't a monolithic hive mind and some didn't have either of those opinions?
They're off screen shots but they are taken at the points when the AA method actually works in the game. That's what annoyed me about the AA in TLoU more than anything. When it worked it worked great but that just made it more jarring when it didn't than if it never had any.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Is this a big deal?
Because it's been 3 days I'm seeing that shit and a bunch of people going all drama-hyperbole-XBOXvsPS4-shit.
Isn't it almost the same amount of memory allowed for the Xbox One, GDDR5 excluded?
Isn't 4.5GB+ more than enough for a long-ass time? I can't see how this would cock-block any developers after all the restrictions they were fighting against during this gen..
Because it's been 3 days I'm seeing that shit and a bunch of people going all drama-hyperbole-XBOXvsPS4-shit.
Isn't it almost the same amount of memory allowed for the Xbox One, GDDR5 excluded?
Isn't 4.5GB+ more than enough for a long-ass time? I can't see how this would cock-block any developers after all the restrictions they were fighting against during this gen..
They cut their OS requirement from 120 MB to 50 MB and you believe they still somehow didn't have enough room for cross game chat, parties, and functioning XMB in-game?
I'm pretty sure that games and operating systems are very different, though.
liquidspeed
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Could you please link to that post? I'd like to see it.
That's not how it works.
I don't know how much you know about screenshots but I am an expert.
- Denial
- Anger
- Bargaining
- Depression
- Acceptence
I'm still on stage 4 but hopefully I'll get to stage 5 as well.
Serious question: How would GAF feel if the ram available to devs was 6 GB?Roboplato?
A little bird told me to keep my mouth shut on the subject but it would be A-OK with me.
Its already more than half for games which I am fine with so that's icing on the cake.Serious question: How would GAF feel if the ram available to devs was 6 GB?
S¡mon;73210371 said:
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#include <stdio.h>
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{
Double * buffer1;
Unsigned int size1 = 2000000000;
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Return 0;
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Voila ! I mean you can waste memory if you want to ...
I don't know but this is 0.5 GB of RAM:
No, that is little less than 0.25GB of video ram.
I'm in tears Lmao!!!
Serious question: How would GAF feel if the ram available to devs was 6 GB?
GAF would bitch that it should be 7.
If 7 was available they would bitch that it should be 8, and that there should be no OS.
liquidspeed
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I think that maybe the more complex ram situation and worse 3rd party ports forced them to shrink the OS more and sacrifice xgame chat.
Vestal
Gold Member
personally I've coded 100% on PC and haven't bothered with working around the idea of having the same chunk of memory accessible every time my apps run. Mostly apps working with Active Directory and Exchange. Since they are not men intensive I don't have to worry to much about it.
from what has been discussed this would pertain to direct memory always being the same addressable chunk and the flex memory being assigned as needed by the OS? Flex could possibly be a combination of physical and virtual(had type pagefile).
Serious question: How would GAF feel if the ram available to devs was 6 GB?
Same way they would react if ps4 had 2 gbs of gddr5 vs MS having 12gb of ddr3, ps4 superior because sony knows how to release the magic of a console, hur dur dur.
Weren't you the same guy swearing up and down that Sony was done for not having backwards combality ?
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
. justmyopinion mang.
You have proof that the same people said both things? I find it hard to believe someone would say paying for online is stupid then go ahead and do it.
TheRealTalker
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lol again this happened when I went to bed and again we came to the conclusion of nothing... man and a lot of people came out of their caves on a suicide mission as well... may they R.I.P
we'll see more chaos unfold tomorrow probably as DF will likely continue to speculate on random nonsense again and individuals who basically no nothing on what this means will attack with their mouths foaming
we'll see more chaos unfold tomorrow probably as DF will likely continue to speculate on random nonsense again and individuals who basically no nothing on what this means will attack with their mouths foaming
I too know nothing when it comes to specs but I don't make a crazy deal out of it
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
justmyopinion mang.
6gb confirmed.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
justmyopinion mang.
Do you know things or is this speculation?
Latvian Hitman
Member
One has nothing to do with the other- they're two different OS's on two different machines.
The sluggish behavior of in-game XMB is a clear indicator of how memory-starved the PS3 is when running a game.
In-game XMB barely runs with limited functionality even after they shrunk their OS footprint. But hey- if you're sitting on the real reason why those features never made it to the PS3, I'm all ears. Don't be coy- lay it on us.
Actually I am pissed Sony are charging for online. However I have no choice, I don't want to game on PC and both nextgen consoles charge for online play, so I have to go for the cheaper option, PSN+ is cheaper than Gold and of course the system is cheaper than Xbox One. I blame Sony for charging for online, but I also blame the people who payed for Gold too.
funkystudent
Member
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
justmyopinion mang.
Sony reserving 6GB for the OS confirmed!
Yeah I was. But I was assuming that Microsoft was going to have full backwards compatibility.
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
justmyopinion mang.
Ok, thread's over people. Everyone return to your cages.
Lifesontheline
Banned
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
justmyopinion mang.
So your confirming that its 6 GB game ?
gundamkyoukai
Member
I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB
justmyopinion mang.
6 is what i expected for the whole system life so it okay in my book .
Yep i hate paying to play online but got no choice at least i get some free games out of PS+ still i hate but i go where my friends go .
If I had to take a stab at what I think the real numbers are I would say:
- 6GB Game RAM allocation
- 1.5GB OS allocation
- .5GB "flex" RAM
Of course, this is straight from a Goomba's ass so don't quote me on it.
I don't remember developers complaining about lack of RAM on the XB One though but that didn't stop people from piling on the system for lack of RAM. Now it's ok though for Sony to have the same thing. Just interesting.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Must the goombas always suffer for our happiness?
I wonder if people will be more pleased with this arrangement of at least 75% of the ram guaranteed to be for games. Should be interesting to see how devs will actually use this.
Now that Microsoft is doing it also those threads seem to have disappeared....
BibiMaghoo
Member
Did you see any developers praising the XBO memory situation? We did with PS4...
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