NoctisVsStar
Member
Doesn't matter how you categorize or view them.
They are full Final Fantasy titles.
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Ehh they're ok.
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Final Fantasy XV Final ATR at TGS 2017 [UP] Story updates continue into 2018
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Ehh they're ok.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
To be fair I'm both upset and happy. I'm happy because I spent 10 years following the damn game and SE seem to care to at least complete it or get there. I doubt they add the old promised plans like a 2nd open world but we'll see. Story content starting with Luna and Gentiana is a great start but it better be substantial stuff. But yeah... I'm also angry about the half shell game I bought because it's a joke to announce that there's problems after they get their money. Lol.
Possibly, My hope is that Square is getting their development together, are working on XVI and it will release sooner than we think.
I don't see the next MMO releasing until 2021 at the earliest, which would be the same time between XI and the original XIV (if you start the new time frame at AAR's release).
But I think XIV: AAR is going to last a bit longer than XI did.
Huh? Ignoring the fact that XIV is far more than "okay," this isn't about our opinions on the games themselves.
AlexFlame116
Member
I'd say blame Square Enix who pushed for the release date and only relented to November at most due to Tabata pleading for it, but I don't think it's the correct answer here. Or ever.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
XIV is in such a good place it would be really stupid to try and replace it this early. It's got a good 3 or 4 expansions in it left.
I believe Episode Duscae was basically just a prototype to gather feedback, I don't think those cutscenes were finalized. Just random stuff they made to make it feel like an actual game with story progression. They basically reworked the whole meeting Cindy scene to the beginning of the game. Combat design was obviously in the very early stages too.
Agreed. ARR gave it a base that can last quite a while longer. I feel like by this point in XI's history, people were already getting a bit itchy.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, what a strange game this was...
AlexFlame116
Member
I don't mind that at all! I may not play XIV but that's only because I can't afford to pay monthly. But it's still a darn good game!
I definitely see it exceeding XV's life span. Maybe even XVI's as well.
But hopefully when the next MMO hits it's more ARR and not OG XIV.
I think most people need to understand that either SE needed to release the game with what it had or be forced to lose tons of money by cancelling it. The game was in development hell for too long. We got a decent game out of it with a half told story.
I'm extremely happy that they are going to be updating the games story for the foreseeable future. I'm even happier that its going to be their main focus too.
According to the ATR, Tabata and team were literally just given approval after Gamescom to update the story, which is why we see screenshots of new story segments and not actual scenes themselves. Apparently these will be the beginning of a slew of new story segments to be put in the game in the future.
sources: http://gematsu.com/2017/09/final-fantasy-xv-development-continue-2018
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/75804472/887118055
According to the gematsu article, it seems that new environments/areas may come with these new scenes, but I'm not entirely sure.
I'm extremely happy that they are going to be updating the games story for the foreseeable future. I'm even happier that its going to be their main focus too.
According to the ATR, Tabata and team were literally just given approval after Gamescom to update the story, which is why we see screenshots of new story segments and not actual scenes themselves. Apparently these will be the beginning of a slew of new story segments to be put in the game in the future.
sources: http://gematsu.com/2017/09/final-fantasy-xv-development-continue-2018
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/75804472/887118055
According to the gematsu article, it seems that new environments/areas may come with these new scenes, but I'm not entirely sure.
Laplasakos
Member
Great. Hope playable Insomnia (before destruction) is one of the new areas.
useyourfist
Member
Did they confirm this in the stream? I was looking forward to some vr content, until it was changed to fishing at £25
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I want to see
Gentiana
In a CG cutscene
Please
And all the Astrals in general
And non-KG hair-tied-up Luna thanks
But I know I won't get more CG
Ugh
DarkLordMalik
Member
I think people feeling disappointed as FFXV being 'incomplete' are the one who didn't enjoy the original experience.
I was thoroughly satisfied with what I played when the game launched so seeing all this announcement is like hearing about a 'director's cut' of the game or kind of like Final Mix for Kingdom Hearts.
I remember back then how the International Edition of FFXV added more content, or how the Final Mix version had cool boss fights. I always wanted those and with XV, it feels like that except the additional content is free and I can spend more time with the DLC including Comrades and the upcoming DLC episode.
There are still people who are somehow under the illusion that Tabata and team will magically patch the story and make it better. This won't happen at all. If you weren't satisfied with the original content, the additional updates and content won't make you happy short of completely revamping the main game, and this last part won't happen ever. So at this point, it is best to move on to the next game so that you don't feel disappointed by each new announcement.
I was thoroughly satisfied with what I played when the game launched so seeing all this announcement is like hearing about a 'director's cut' of the game or kind of like Final Mix for Kingdom Hearts.
I remember back then how the International Edition of FFXV added more content, or how the Final Mix version had cool boss fights. I always wanted those and with XV, it feels like that except the additional content is free and I can spend more time with the DLC including Comrades and the upcoming DLC episode.
There are still people who are somehow under the illusion that Tabata and team will magically patch the story and make it better. This won't happen at all. If you weren't satisfied with the original content, the additional updates and content won't make you happy short of completely revamping the main game, and this last part won't happen ever. So at this point, it is best to move on to the next game so that you don't feel disappointed by each new announcement.
useyourfist
Member
Probably in some cases, however for me I'm a massive fan of final fantasy but in general don't like or have time to play games through twice. Adding all this extra story content, if inserted in the main game, is annoying as I won't want to miss out but also don't want to play the whole game again. I would have rather had the complete game first time through.
They fucked the development of the game and needed to release something quick to recover the development costs. More months of development could have been fatal.
When will this update release? I could play the game a second time but I want to do it when the full experience is avaliable
According to that GameFAQs at least a few new cutscenes that were teased in the Universe TGS trailer will come with the next update later this month, but the rest early next year or something? Not sure if the translation is 100% right. Guess we gotta wait for an official translation or tweet.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Can't wait for Final Fantasy XV-2: A Stitch in Time
There were some pre-determined phrases you could choose from a quick-menu in the beta (e.g. "Good job!", "Let's go!", "I need help!" etc.).
The Hamburglar
Banned
Thy never shut up about this game. If only they developed thr story as much as they talk about it. It might have been good.
You know, I'm actually still torn about whether I just would've liked a prequel/sequel with two years of dev time, completely overhauled combat (see FFX-2 and LR which had the best combat in the series, imo), all essential feedback incorporated, and a new, coherent and consistenly told story that doesn't mess with or retcon the original instead of this approach of adding stuff later on that will likely make the game feel even more disjointed and won't be enough to fix the fundamental narrative flaws. Who knows though, maybe they'll somehow manage to do it well.
If it's true that the majority of the new scenes will come early next year, I guess they'll try to make it on time for the PC version, which could then actually be marketed as the "Definitive Edition/Director's Cut".
slosherbomb
Member
I beat the game last Christmas. I put over a hundred hours into it. I have been playing it as they update it. But Ill never sell it. Im gonna go back next year and start it from the beginning with all the updates
I love how theyre supporting this game
People please stop complaining, be happy yo.
I love how theyre supporting this game
People please stop complaining, be happy yo.
slosherbomb
Member
The only post I care about in this thread
Thank you for actually Posting something beneficial in this thread
Haters go somewhere else.
How they dare to support the game with new content.
The point is that most of the content they patched in after the game's release should have been part of the base game when it first came out.
They don't deserve a big pat on the back for finishing something they sold as incomplete. It's not that complicated.
OR they could have just finished the game the first time like they used to.
Anyway, I will probably play the updates or whatever story content they release. Maybe I can finally enjoy the story.
nvm
Can't blame you, lol. Young Noctis looks so silly; they should've made him look more similar to the superior Old Noctis design, just a bit younger face-wise so there's still a visible difference between the two.
And they didn't gave a pat on the back, game got it's fair of shit for that when it got released , but atleast they're doing the right thing now. Better late than never (not that I care about new story content, it's not like they can change much of what it was).
The point is that they didn't, and atleast they working to solve that. Lots of devs would ignore that and go on with their new project.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Young Noctis is clearly superior Koozek.
Fair enough, but the reality is they couldn't first time around, so now that they can do something about it, should they not? If they actually manage to improve the story substantially enough future ports/remasters will profit from it and at least new players will get a better game (and fans who want to replay it someday).
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You shut ya mouth punished noct is one of the best ff protagonist designs I won't take this slander
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Young Noctis looks like such a lost kid in Dissidia NT... Old Noct would have fit so much better among all the other battle-hardened warriors.
Man I'm really not sure if getting extra content after episode Ignis is good or not. I mean, we already know how the game ends. We know the fate of all the characters they're giving us extra content for. So it really diminishes the effects of whatever more backstory they're adding to these characters.
I'm just not sure if any of this is worth it in the long run. Sure FFXV's story was heavily criticized, but almost everyone agrees that the ending was good, if not great. The game managed to remove most of the bad taste in our mouths by the end of chapter 14, so was it really necessary to go back to what we've mostly forgotten about and maybe even forgiven for the purpose of improvement?
Unrelated question: If you play through the main story of FFXV right now and reach chapter 13, will the original chapter 13 play out, or Verse 2?
I'm just not sure if any of this is worth it in the long run. Sure FFXV's story was heavily criticized, but almost everyone agrees that the ending was good, if not great. The game managed to remove most of the bad taste in our mouths by the end of chapter 14, so was it really necessary to go back to what we've mostly forgotten about and maybe even forgiven for the purpose of improvement?
Unrelated question: If you play through the main story of FFXV right now and reach chapter 13, will the original chapter 13 play out, or Verse 2?
Fascinating. I guess the buzz the PC version got was strong enough to convince them. It's so cool to see a Final Mix version being developed with players.
AgentLampshade
Member
You get a choice to switch over.
There's a prompt at some point asking if you want to play as Gladio now (if you decline, you can still switch at save rooms) and if you do and finish his section, when you switch back to Noct it basically skips over the most-hated part of his route and puts you at a later point in the chapter.
Wait, you mean choosing another battle theme from the available player songs or that the music player plays throughout battles too? I'd definitely like an option for the latter.
But, wat, why would
Ifrit
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Tabata listen to this man
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Cause they can and 5 million will part with their money for it and still excuse everything about it. It's hilarious how the narrative to some is look how generous they are supporting this game that much!!
Wow. truly everyone take note and imitate what 15 does and did.
yeah I wonder where they will go with Luna??
Considering she's dead
It was okay. I just question some of their decisions in the story (like Luna)