Joe Molotov
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NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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texasairhead101
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Accidentally triggering side/joke endings on accident is kinda frustrating since you have to start all the way over at the beginning of a chapter.
Started a C route and triggered the U ending while in the moon base.
Started a C route and triggered the U ending while in the moon base.
If you saved often you wouldn't be at the start of the chapter.
The operators don't know, it's explicitly stated only the Commander does.
SictorVullivan
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Yup, and even then the Commander doesn't even know the TRUE purpose of YorHa.
Yoko Taro is a genius.
Which makes me wonder if the blindfolds are also Yoko Taro having fun.
The people who's only job is to speak have veils on their face.
The people who's job it is to do recon and data collection are blindfolded.
darkwing-buck
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Meta.
Just read this piece on usgamer
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/nier-automata-and-the-illusion-of-survival
Any other spoiler articles and podcasts out there?
Man I just want to consume more of this game lol. Haven't felt this about a game since I beat xenogears a few years ago. I need to get back to zelda but man...
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/nier-automata-and-the-illusion-of-survival
Any other spoiler articles and podcasts out there?
Man I just want to consume more of this game lol. Haven't felt this about a game since I beat xenogears a few years ago. I need to get back to zelda but man...
If I recall correctly one of the reasons stated in the Anemone Novel was that it's to avoid letting enemies read facial expressions or eye movement.
The blindfolds are heads up displays apparently.
But, I mean, they're also an incredibly obvious metaphor for the androids not truly perceiving the world around them.
Androids cover their eyes because they can't see the truth. That the war is pointless and the machines are alive. The operators cover their mouths because they dont tell the truth.
A2, being aware of what is actually happening, does not wear a blindfold. Which is what makes her revenge, her fight, more tragic. She knows it's all pointless, but she continues on. Similar with 9S at the end when he loses his blindfold.
Hell, eyes are all over the damn game. Machines eyes are literally identifiers of their nature, with the colour distinguishing their intent. Several bosses look like giant eyeballs, with the first boss even being defeated by being stabbed in the eye. Adam himself chooses to wear glasses, almost as if he wishes to 'see' more clearly, mirroring his desire to understand humans. Eve's eyes begin to bleed when he is blinded by rage.
I dunno how much of that is misinterpretation or unintentional, but I do wonder just how far the symbolism of perception goes in this game.
But, I mean, they're also an incredibly obvious metaphor for the androids not truly perceiving the world around them.
Androids cover their eyes because they can't see the truth. That the war is pointless and the machines are alive. The operators cover their mouths because they dont tell the truth.
A2, being aware of what is actually happening, does not wear a blindfold. Which is what makes her revenge, her fight, more tragic. She knows it's all pointless, but she continues on. Similar with 9S at the end when he loses his blindfold.
Hell, eyes are all over the damn game. Machines eyes are literally identifiers of their nature, with the colour distinguishing their intent. Several bosses look like giant eyeballs, with the first boss even being defeated by being stabbed in the eye. Adam himself chooses to wear glasses, almost as if he wishes to 'see' more clearly, mirroring his desire to understand humans. Eve's eyes begin to bleed when he is blinded by rage.
I dunno how much of that is misinterpretation or unintentional, but I do wonder just how far the symbolism of perception goes in this game.
I'm big on eyes as a metaphor, so I caught a few of those, but I forgot about Engells and Adam and Eve! Nice catch.
This is correct, but it should be added that the Machines are the same way. They'll never let themselves fully defeat the Androids, because then they would have no drive for evolution. Androids and Machines are trapped in a perpetual war of their own design.
There's an archive you unlock after ending C explaining the situation: http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Machine+Research+Report
darkwing-buck
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So in ending C, if you pick A2 at the end when she destroys the tower, does that mean she broke the cycle of androids and machines being reinvented to fight wars?
The machine network will probably regenerate eventually. Although you unlock an archive from Jackass after Ending C (see previous post) that states that she intends to kill all everyone involved on both ends. Maybe that can be Nier 3 or DLC.
2B obviously
Yeah it's 2B almost certainly.
And the cycle only really broke with regards to 2B, 9S and A2. They're going to have to work to end the war.
I like to think that that's what they're doing in that story.
darkwing-buck
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The battle with 9S and A2 fighting the robot switching perspectives had me floored. Such a good set piece.
Doesn't the android by the oasis survive route C too? The "complicated expression" could be from seeing the Emil heads that are nearby.
NieR Automata is the rare video game that starts off amazing, somehow still gets better as it goes on, and ends when it's at its best.
Most games decline right before the ending, or don't pick up until the ending.
Going have to amend that in my play through but seriously didn't know that. Any new dialog on route c with them?
snow in jamaica
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Where does the stage play link A2 to Kaine? I saw that she has memories of having a grandmother, but she has pleasant memories rather than complete garbage ones.
DrunkShogun
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What is this referring to. Isn't the last event timeline wise the ending e cutscene. What's this about Emil seeing someone 600 years after automata.
SictorVullivan
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It's the last story entry of the Emil head weapon IIRC.
His weapon stories are time stamped around [01/19/12423] but the game takes place around 11943
DrunkShogun
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A lot of the ending content seems like they could squeeze a worthy dlc to wrap it all up. Can see them leaving it unfortunately.
Not as A2, but I never checked with 9S.
Click the link I posted earlier on the page. The *****s are "fuck"s, that Wiki automatically censors them.
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Or, screw it, here's the text.
Hm, it should be in your intel after ending C or D
Thanks for that.
I would, but I got ending E and I'm starting a second playthrough lol.
At least I now know where it's at.
Thanks you two!
There is info about humanity and the replicants on the moon, and some of the rockets launched into space looked like they had some supplies listed, so maybe whoever's in charge of the androids lives there.
For a full breakdown of Project Gestalt, check out Grimoire Nier, a compendium for the first Nier game.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...Wjao99AGi0YuWShTvA-tA/mobilebasic?viewopt=127
There is no one on the moon. The replicant data was uploaded to a server on the moon by Devola and Popola but the relay and messages from the moon are all a lie to keep Androids believing humans were still around.
The supplies list was supposed to be a clue that there was no one on the moon. They were sending up rockets with "supplies" that were mostly empty.
That's the point. Mostly.
There's a server up there, meaning someone actually went and point an android server on the moon. Someone has to maintain it.
Since the Bunker and surface don't appear to have any chain of command, perhaps the moon is where they hide.
They put stuff in some of them to make it more convincing, it was like a bit of water and junk being sent up there. If anything is maintaining it then it'd most likely be more Androids who are within the inner circle and allowed to know the truth.
They definitely mention in the intel that it is designed to be maintained by the least amount of androids possible. I'd expect around 1 or 2 of them stationed there until the Yorha backdoor is opened. My question is who sets up the new cycle of androids for the new war. There must be some production facilities somewhere with a whole group hidden away. Originally I thought the machines literally created more androids with modified memories after the human made ones all perished, like they can with adam and eve to begin the cycle of forced evolution again but that's most likely wrong.
Check your emails.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I think Kaine was pretty happy with her grandma. It was everything else in her childhood that was fucked up.
RyougaSaotome
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I'm fairly certain the files indicate that a handful of androids, the minimum number possible, are up there maintaining everything.
Which is why I think whoever is in charge of the Androids is probably there too.
Why does someone need to be in charge of the Androids?
snow in jamaica
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Yeah, but No. 2 mentions being around helpful villagers and stuff.
KO Traveling Hobo
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That certainly puts a damper on that theory.
It still seems like the parallels are intentional, even if they don't actually mean anything.
The fact that they're keeping secrets about humanity shows that there has to be someone in charge. Be it a singular android, network, or collection of androids.
Someone's telling the Pods how YoRHa's supposed to end and giving them orders.
Someone's making decisions on their behalf.
Someone's initiating the cycle of wars.
The YoRHa was comprised of ranks, the resistance as leaders. They're very much like us in that regard.
Who else would be SS rank that is above anyone in Yorha including the commanders?
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