Yeah, however most of the income of Sega Sammy comes from the Pachinko division, contrary to ubisoft.
Consumer division (videogame is part of it) have lost money overall during the past 7 years.
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THQ's bankruptcy sale details: Auction on January 22nd, Will Allow Piecemeal Purchase
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Consumer division (videogame is part of it) have lost money overall during the past 7 years.
Anecdotal of course but a lot of people on my Steam list own/play their games.
Yeah, I want to know where they will end up. And that WH40K MMO that has turned into SP game.
You thought wrong. They wouldn't double Rome 2's budget and the amount of people working on it otherwise.
Shorty11857
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Sega considers it one of their core franchises along with Sonic and Football Manager and are expanding Creative Assembly because it's one of their most profitable studios
Lasthope106
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SEGA got Relic?!
Right this is why Sega doesn't get that much investment out of the two.
thehypocrite
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Europe+Awesome Strategy PC Game=Cash Cow.
Heh, I always thought it was pretty weird that the 2K logo comes up when I start up Borderlands. I have bought both in the span of less than 30 days. They really do have something special there.
This actually makes me very happy. It always breaks my heart to see really talented developers struggling to get deals and gain financial independence (like Double Fine and Obsidian), so it's always great to see when other developers are well rewarded for great games.
As for Sega possibly taking Relic... well I'll be damned. That's a better outcome than I'd imagined! Sega have shown that they know how to manage a successful PC studio very well, and Relic's talent won't be wasted or abused there as I feel it would in one of the bigger publishers like EA or Activision.
MrNyarlathotep
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Its one of the only PC game franchises you can actually buy in bricks and mortar stores in the UK.
The others are WoW, The Sims and Football Manager.
It's huge in Europe.
It is successful enough that it is one of the four franchises that Sega has decided to keep in retail. The others are Football Manager, Aliens, and Sonic the Hedgehog. There is a reason why Sega integrated Football Manager and Total War into the rest of the Sega pantheon with the PC version of Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, you know.
Vade
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Having no debt in the business world is generally not considered 'good' since now shareholders will be more anxious about wanted dividends. They will assume the company is not investing to increase its size, scope ect. so they want a return.
Obviously you need to have controlled debt, but not having any debt can be a red flag to investors that are looking for growth generation and not just a safe dividend return.
Obviously you need to have controlled debt, but not having any debt can be a red flag to investors that are looking for growth generation and not just a safe dividend return.
Lasthope106
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Oh god... Please EA don't fuck this up!
I'm going to take a guess here and say that COD and Skylanders have both made Activision some money over the past little while.
I'm looking at this financial document, and on the bottom of page 5, it seems to say that ETW sold 810k in FY 2009?
The game is still in the top 20 playlist on Steam.
ThreePiMatt
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Aint that the truth. We still don't have any word of a Yakuza 5 date. They do this to us every time!
DTKT said:
They're constantly on the Steam charts and when they come out they're in the top 5 usually. Even now Empire still charts pretty well and that's years old.
Also Sega upped Rome 2's budget by 3 times over shogun 2's, so they're very confident in it.
Technosteve
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Just got this response in my twitter feed:
hrmmm
activision blizzard not interested =/
arts&crafts
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is activision seperate from activision-blizzard? because WoW has still got to be making billions a year.
Activision runs dividends these days.
crimsonheadGCN
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Is it possible that the reason why Activision Blizzard has no debt is because of Vivendi wanting to sell them off last year? Would that have made much of a difference for whoever was interested in buying the company?
Or has Activision Blizzard been debt free for a longer time?
Or has Activision Blizzard been debt free for a longer time?
Lasthope106
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I think they would play second fiddle compared to the SC team, and get shut down or absorbed.
Yeah it's quite possible they're higher these days, I was looking at relatively early results the last time I saw a Total War game.
Bobby Kotick brags about having no debt fairly often, so I would say it's just what he likes to do.
ape2man
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i dont get this. Why invest in shit that makes no profit for 7 years.
bequietdrive
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So am I correct in thinking that seven potential buyers are still unknown? Really hoping Nintendo had the sense to pick up some ips...
I thought it worked like a holding company, and for the most part Activision and Blizzard stuff are separate.
At this point there could be tons of buyers technically.
Technosteve
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I think Relic is a better RTS company then Blizzard but if sega can make money off relic and relic can keep making games i like i'll be happy.
Most of them are yes.
crimsonheadGCN
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I didn't know about that. Thanks.
They're probably hoping that the investment will turn things around for the consumer division, since PC strategy-oriented developer fits into what makes Sega money.
That's why they recently massively overhauled the division.
Are you really disappointed that they are not interested? How many studios have they closed this gen? It would be an awful option.
I'm glad they are not interested.
they need to keep their focus on the PC space. Their console games have been shit.
crimsonheadGCN
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Activision Blizzard is a holding company.
World of Warcraft is most definitely still making money, despite it (I believe) very slowly dropping in the number of subscriptions over the past several years.
It probably will still continue to make money for them some years down the road from now, I would think.
ThoseDeafMutes
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They certainly make more fun RTS, although CoH is still unbalanced 6 years later, and each expansion breaks the balance again in new and exciting ways.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Just got this response in my twitter feed:
hrmmm
EXCELLENT.
I think Sega is probably about as good as it gets for Relic, if indeed they end up there. Sega seems to have done right by Creative Assembly and both of those teams under Sega would give Sega a lot of nice strategy franchises plus Warhammer. Very nice.
Infinite Justice
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Apparently it will be tommorrow in the sales hearing
come at me bro
That's why we are all feverishly waiting CoH2!
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