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XSeed giving LUNAR PSP a fresh translation
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Dead Prince
Banned
no buy.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Hahahah, fuck that, I'm out.
archnemesis
Member
^^ Wait, what? A new translation is a bad thing?
archnemesis said:
For people who grew up playing the Working Designs' versions of the Lunar games, yeah. So much of what people call great about those games is wrapped up in the charm, and that's attributable to the writing -- not just the words themselves, but the style and voice and sense of humor that Working Designs brought to them. And speaking of voice, the actual voice actors, too.
When Vic said that GaijinWorks offered its services to XSEED for the new translation but they were declined, I lost a decent amount of interest in the game.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
why would you do that?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
FML
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I've tried a re-translated Lunar before. It turns out Lunar is a stunningly average jRPG without the brilliant WD translation. So yeah, not interested.archnemesis said:
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
archnemesis said:
Working Designs was essentially the mother of all Atlus's, NIS's, XSEED's, and what ever the hell. They were the first company to bring Japanese games (usually JRPG's) to American soil. But what really makes them stand out is that (for their time at least) they gave amazingly good translations. Today the translations seem decent at best by back in the days when translations were filled with grammar errors and kindergarden dialogue they were a Godsend. So most people prefer to have the original translation the way they remember it.
Segata Sanshiro said:
I've keep telling people this but they refuse to listen.
ethelred said:
Sums up my thoughts completely. Lunar:SSSC was a decent game, but it was the characters and the script that kept me playing it (and enjoying it.) Lunar:EB was a much better game, but without the script and how it handles the characters....I am just going to avoid it now. That is truly what made those games great.
WD script or bust
Diomedeskun
Member
I liked WD translations up until Silver Star Story Complete. The flatulance, the excessive use of out of place sexual references and other bodily humor ("you guys are as perky as my waitresses on a cold day" was among the least ridiculous), and the overall sophomoric tone of the translation really killed it for me. I welcome this change.
That said, I would only get this if they improve the gameplay. The battles in the psx version were quite dull and repetitive.
That said, I would only get this if they improve the gameplay. The battles in the psx version were quite dull and repetitive.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Booooo.
Of all the old games that need a new translation, it's LUNAR of all things that actually gets one.
That's really a bummer.
Of all the old games that need a new translation, it's LUNAR of all things that actually gets one.
That's really a bummer.
Christopher
Member
Fuck that
Segata Sanshiro
Member
What does the translation of Holy Invasion (by NISA) have to do with the translation of Lunar (by XSEED)?Edgeward said:
Anyway, the only Hail Mary XSEED could pull to get my sale at this point is to have John Truitt voicing Ghaleon.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Bingo.Segata Sanshiro said:
XSEED is obviously just cashing in on what they see as potential profit in nostalgia by picking up this average looking remake of Lunar. Unfortunately for them, most people who actually care about Lunar, only care about it because of Working Designs. By retranslating it, it'll be just another average JRPG which is now pretty dated and it doesn't even look that great. If they wanted to actually pick up an oldschool 2D JRPG on the PSP which has never been localized before and would appeal to the same fanbase that liked WD games, they should have licensed Tengai Makyou 4th Apocalypse. Then they wouldn't even have to deal with this nonsense about retranslation.
Segata Sanshiro said:
This is what I was worried about the most. Sure, nostalgia might be whipping me profusely at this point, but I appreciated the script and the voice acting (especially the hammy voice acting from Ghaleon and Zophar). Without all of that, I could see Lunar taking itself a little bit too seriously, which is the last thing I would want.
Although, what if XSeed's localization manages to be as good as the WD one?
Y2Kev said:
I'll part company from the crowd here and say that I don't really think it's that mediocre. I like the basic traditional RPG battle system, I think the game has some pretty decent dungeons, and it has a good challenge. I also think Iwadare's music for the game is great.
But it's unquestionable that Lunar is regarded as a classic first and foremost because of the Working Designs translation. Stripping that away (or not doing a new one that's either written by the guy who made the first what it was or is at least based on the work they did) leaves a much lesser game in its place, and I'm not sure why that's really desirable when the original game is playable, intact, on the PSP already.
Segata Sanshiro said:
Ghaleon without John Truitt is like Darth Vader without James Earl Jones.
Shadow780 said:
Why? :lol
Oldschool said:
The thing is, it has nothing to do with trusting XSEED. For a lot of its products, XSEED has handed the localization off to 8-4, which is a very talented company and does great work. I'd actually say that 8-4 is by far one of the better localization outfits today.
But they're not Working Designs, they don't do games in the same style or spirit as Working Designs, the new text will not have the same voice that caused a lot of people growing up to hail the original as a classic. Not sure why anyone is acting like it's difficult to get why people would find this unpalatable.
KTallguy said:
Even if there are elements that wouldn't pass muster today, it's possible to take the original script and use that as a jumping off point, reworking specific elements that need to be updated. That's how Square translated the original Ted Woolsey scripts for Chrono Trigger and FF6 when they did their GBA/DS ports, and those were much less iconic scripts than the Working Designs one for Lunar.
No wait they should hire the guy that retranslated Harry Potter (Wizard People link). I would buy that for sure
Segata Sanshiro
Member
The movie Ghostbusters has jokes that aren't terribly relevant today, but I'm not sure how people would react if new releases of it on Blu-Ray had the script re-written and the dialogued re-dubbed by different actors. And the lyrics to the theme song were changed.KTallguy said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'm more interested now.
I have no love for the old translation and have always wondered what an accurate translation of the game was like.
I have no love for the old translation and have always wondered what an accurate translation of the game was like.
ShockingAlberto
Member
This would be more like getting up in arms because the arabic dub of Ghostbusters now has less jokes involving naming the shop owner Oliver North.Segata Sanshiro said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Gee, I wonder which version I'm familiar with exclusively?dallow_bg said:
To whit, I don't give a fuck what the original Japanese version says. I fell in love with the English WD script of the game. I have no connection at all with the original Japanese script.
The Ubisoft translation was apparently a more literal translation of the Japanese script. It read like typical failgrade bullshit.
The analogy applies to picking at the relevancy of the jokes. Jokes do age, but that doesn't mean they ought to be excised from the script upon re-release.
Segata Sanshiro said:
How about this? Lunar: The Silver Star Story Complete is WD's game. Lunar: Harmony of Silver star is XSEED's game. Let them put out their their version of the game since it is a remake.
Just like if their was a Ghostbusters remake, they shouldn't be expected to be exactly like the old Ghostbusters movie.
You have your WD version. Let Xseed have theirs. It could turn out awesome.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Bullshit. I'm not buying this crap. I won't even bother to borrow or pirate it. I don't want it anywhere near me. Lunar:SSSC is the game that got me into gaming, and its translation is perfectly fine the way it is. Fuck that writer for wanting to change the theme song. I still have the goddamn soundtrack and the fucking puppet.
Against. So very against.
Against. So very against.
LocoMrPollock
Banned
Meh, I'll give it a shot before I start hating on it.
If you guys dislike the new graphics and are now upset that the script isn't gonna be identical, why don't you just rip your psx copy to a memory card, replay it again on your psp and be done with it?
If you guys dislike the new graphics and are now upset that the script isn't gonna be identical, why don't you just rip your psx copy to a memory card, replay it again on your psp and be done with it?