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Yoshi. WTF Nintendo?
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TheGreatDave
Banned
Willy105 said:
New is not always a good thing. Now I know I wasn't imagining how annoying he sounded.
Best Yoshi design/voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOcq-NnsNFo&feature=related
edit: I take it back. Dozens of the best Yoshi designs ever here
edit: I take it back. Dozens of the best Yoshi designs ever here
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Yoshi Story was the turning point for me. Nintendo was doing the rounds, giving all of their characters "cute" little voice clips, and then they got to Yoshi. They made him sound like an Alvin & the chipmunks character, except he made goofy baby noises.
Coincidentally, this change happened at Yoshi's Story on the N64, a game that feels like it was made for preschool children. I absolutely hated it when old EGM/1up alumni would bust out the term "baby game", but that is the only way I can express my feeling for Yoshi's Story. The game was, as far as I could make myself play it, mindlessly easy and disgustingly saccharine - more a venue for this "new" Yoshi to make funny noises than actually be a game that engaged me.
And somebody decided that's how Yoshi is going to be. Forever. That nails-on-a-chalkboard voice, the squishy anthropomorphic proportions, everything.
There hasn't been a "good" Yoshi game since. I've never played Topsy-Turvey on the GBA, and I don't want to. Touch & Go was fun for about ten minutes. Yoshi's Island DS was at best bland and completely uninteresting (and at worst a buggy, unpolished, unbalanced, ugly piece of shit).
Seriously, Yoshi's Island debuted and probably set the watermark so high that there will never be a Yoshi game to reach that plateau. But regardless of that, the games released since Yoshi's Island haven't even come within spitting distance. It's like Nintendo literally has no idea what to do with the character.
If there is a game with Yoshi and you "need" to give him a voice, I want the Mario Kart 64 incarnation, where the only "voice" he has is just that weird sound he made in Super Mario World but pitch-shifted and mixed up all different kinds of ways.
Coincidentally, this change happened at Yoshi's Story on the N64, a game that feels like it was made for preschool children. I absolutely hated it when old EGM/1up alumni would bust out the term "baby game", but that is the only way I can express my feeling for Yoshi's Story. The game was, as far as I could make myself play it, mindlessly easy and disgustingly saccharine - more a venue for this "new" Yoshi to make funny noises than actually be a game that engaged me.
And somebody decided that's how Yoshi is going to be. Forever. That nails-on-a-chalkboard voice, the squishy anthropomorphic proportions, everything.
There hasn't been a "good" Yoshi game since. I've never played Topsy-Turvey on the GBA, and I don't want to. Touch & Go was fun for about ten minutes. Yoshi's Island DS was at best bland and completely uninteresting (and at worst a buggy, unpolished, unbalanced, ugly piece of shit).
Seriously, Yoshi's Island debuted and probably set the watermark so high that there will never be a Yoshi game to reach that plateau. But regardless of that, the games released since Yoshi's Island haven't even come within spitting distance. It's like Nintendo literally has no idea what to do with the character.
If there is a game with Yoshi and you "need" to give him a voice, I want the Mario Kart 64 incarnation, where the only "voice" he has is just that weird sound he made in Super Mario World but pitch-shifted and mixed up all different kinds of ways.
PumpkinPie
Banned
Bentendo said:
It would make more sense if he spat the eggs though...Also, the REAL Yoshi does not have a voice or any kind, he just makes the licky noises from SMW.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Nuclear Muffin said:
The Yoshi I like is eyes half closed, a little bit oblivious, quirky, wild, cool.
Yoshi is the farthest thing from cool now. Yoshi's Island, even if a great game, made Yoshi into a permanent childlike character. That's what happened, but I'm okay with it. BALLZ, LOOK AT MAH BALLZ.
Yoshi is the farthest thing from cool now. Yoshi's Island, even if a great game, made Yoshi into a permanent childlike character. That's what happened, but I'm okay with it. BALLZ, LOOK AT MAH BALLZ.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
PetriP-TNT
Member
Ballz, look at mah ballz :lol
MisterHero
Super Member
Yoshis are everywhere but OP's preferred Yoshis are exclusive to Dinosaur Island
Not in Isle Delfino
Not in Space
Not in Isle Delfino
Not in Space
I like his current design
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Yoshi's Story was pretty cool.
goldenpp72
Member
The original yoshi design is too simple and lacks any personality outside of looking smug or something, yoshis design today in game looks superior, that render sucks though.
Yoshi's sound effects in NSMB Wii are old Yoshi sounds from his Island days and in Galaxy 2 he barely makes any baby noises. They've been on track to fixing that. Even Mario's voice is kinda "deeper" and less excited, thus less kiddy sounding. He still has enthusiasm, he just isn't a twelve year old plumber on crack.
BertramCooper
Banned
Geez, what a stupid thread. Yoshi looks great. And I love the new voice work in SMG2.
If you want a better example of a Nintendo character whose design has gotten significantly worse, go with Daisy.
N64-era design:
GCN/Wii design:
Still not sure why they decided to give her fetal alcohol syndrome face.
If you want a better example of a Nintendo character whose design has gotten significantly worse, go with Daisy.
N64-era design:
GCN/Wii design:
Still not sure why they decided to give her fetal alcohol syndrome face.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
BertramCooper said:Geez, what a stupid thread. Yoshi looks great. And I love the new voice work in SMG2.
If you want a better example of a Nintendo character whose design has gotten significantly worse, go with Daisy.
N64-era design:
GCN/Wii design:
Still not sure why they decided to give her fetal alcohol syndrome face.
Eh, N64 design is just a Peach Reskin.
BertramCooper
Banned
Even so, it's better than the current model, which is hideous.DeaconKnowledge said:
It's not like it's a big deal, though. Daisy is barely a real Mario character anyway.
DonMigs85
Member
Notice that they got rid of her tanned look as well. And there are no black or Asian human characters in the Mario series either. HmmBertramCooper said:Geez, what a stupid thread. Yoshi looks great. And I love the new voice work in SMG2.
If you want a better example of a Nintendo character whose design has gotten significantly worse, go with Daisy.
N64-era design:
GCN/Wii design:
Still not sure why they decided to give her fetal alcohol syndrome face.
But come to think of it, the new render does resemble the original Mario Land art more IMO...
Along with Mario Kart and F-Zero, Yoshi is one of the most lasting original things Nintendo created during the 16 bit era.
He's a little too powerful for you to get him and use him for every second of every level in 3D games, but I don't think his primary function has changed over the years.
He's a little too powerful for you to get him and use him for every second of every level in 3D games, but I don't think his primary function has changed over the years.
Shadowlink
Member
The new design looks pretty nice to me, and I also like his voice work. I also liked Yoshi's Story, but it was too short. I don't really see what's wrong with the new Yoshi, besides you whining about how he doesn't look "mature".
Which reminds me, where the hell is my new Yoshi's Island/Story game?
Which reminds me, where the hell is my new Yoshi's Island/Story game?
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Jesus, there are a lot of idiots laughing at the "WAAAH WAAAH DOESN'T LOOK REALISTIC" comment. Considering that nowhere in the OP is there any mention of how realistic he ever looked, don't any of you find that the slightest bit stupid?
Even if you disagree that Yoshi's design has got worse, it's not hard to see why some people might feel that way, given that Yoshi's design has changed a lot. He went from looking like a "mount" to having an upright posture, and having a far more simple, childish design, with a completely different voice/sound effect. Considering these aren't insignificant changes, and Yoshi looks and sounds incredibly different now, I fail to see why having an opinion on the matter is so fucking taboo.
Personally, the Yoshi's Island design is my favourite. I don't like his new upright posture, his new voice, and he used to look a lot more mellowed out.
Even if you disagree that Yoshi's design has got worse, it's not hard to see why some people might feel that way, given that Yoshi's design has changed a lot. He went from looking like a "mount" to having an upright posture, and having a far more simple, childish design, with a completely different voice/sound effect. Considering these aren't insignificant changes, and Yoshi looks and sounds incredibly different now, I fail to see why having an opinion on the matter is so fucking taboo.
Personally, the Yoshi's Island design is my favourite. I don't like his new upright posture, his new voice, and he used to look a lot more mellowed out.