Interfectum
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How many man hours did the nvidia techs burn on reddit to 'customize' the Switch chip. lol
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Confirmed: The Nintendo Switch is powered by an Nvidia Tegra X1
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Because they don't consume power when they're not being used, and removing them would mean re-laying out the chip, which is an insanely expensive endeavour ($10s or $100s of millions). Why throw money away?
RichiRamjag
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Lmao!
So a touchscreen?
Bruce Springsteen
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But do you realize that is meaningless for those that won't take advantage of its portability? especially when it's advertised as a home console as well
*Psstt* the screen and battery probably add quite a bit to the cost.
franklyshankly
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Sure, 200 dollar box plugged into the tv with a pro controller would work for me.
TwistedFreeze
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With Nail for docked mode. Without nail for handheld mode
It's a hybrid and it's advertised as such ("the portable home console").
If you're not interested in Nintendo games, you're not supposed to buy this.
Believe me: it will sell a more lot to the handheld audience, no matter what narrative is trying to take NoA.
SinCityAssassin
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Docked mode is Nail and Kami, Just Nail in portable.
Most of the other components used in the Switch are commoditized. Then it is using a phablet sized 720p screen that doesn't even have great outdoor viewability (IIRC 312 nit u need 400 nits for just okay outdoor viewability).
I haven't tried the HD rumble in person, yet, but I have my doubt that it is worth it.
???
Maybe that is the case.
NOLA_Gaffer
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The Gamecube had comparable hardware to its contemporaries but the audience wasn't there, so most third parties bailed after the second year of its life.
The Wii had the biggest audience of its generation but third parties didn't bother with it in regards to software.
The Wii U had no hardware power and no audience, so third parties definitely didn't bother with it.
Nintendo suddenly releasing a powerful console doesn't mean that third parties will suddenly flock to it because the audience for Nintendo hardware simply isn't there anymore. Folks want to play Nintendo games, not whatever third parties are offering up.
Compsiox
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Aside from the stand and connection issues the Switch is a quality product. I definitely don't regret buying one.
Bony Manifesto
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There must be something they could do with them though. Is there any reason the OS couldn't run on them instead of reserving a core (or whatever) of the main CPU?
Not really. The point is they're not 'chunky' when it comes to CPU power.
moltonasty
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Damn people still upset about Nintendo hardware specs in 2017? lol
They haven't been chasing "cutting edge tech" since the Gamecube. The Switch is still more powerful than a Wii U, which already has beautiful games. It's fine.
They haven't been chasing "cutting edge tech" since the Gamecube. The Switch is still more powerful than a Wii U, which already has beautiful games. It's fine.
-Mutsukki-
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The funny thing is that his tag goes against what he just posted lol. I guess he gotta react strongly to just about everything he doesn't understand
plagiarize
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To be fair, it does come with two controllers (IR and standard controller).
A better thing to point to is the screen, internal battery, and the larger internal memory.
Yeah why can't Nintendo just force a chip that's not ready for production to exist and for the amount of money that makes it's competitive.
Jesus. People get so fucking worked up about nothing. We have a portable that's a bit more powerful than the Wii u. The tx2 wouldn't change that fact.
I'm hard pressed to think Nintendo going with the TX1 instead of the TX2 wasn't a financial decision rather than a timing issue.
Nintendo has generally stuck with the concept of not losing money on hardware sold. Keeping the the cost of the Switch at $300, while maintaining profitability, probably influenced the selection of the TX1. I think Nintendo wanting a fast turnaround on the switch pushed them to go with Nvidia for a chip in the first place.
Edit: On a side note, I Nvidia game stream will be brought to the switch with the advent of it being jailbroken. I would love to stream my PC games on the switch. I would buy it in a heart beat if I could do that.
Nintendo has generally stuck with the concept of not losing money on hardware sold. Keeping the the cost of the Switch at $300, while maintaining profitability, probably influenced the selection of the TX1. I think Nintendo wanting a fast turnaround on the switch pushed them to go with Nvidia for a chip in the first place.
Edit: On a side note, I Nvidia game stream will be brought to the switch with the advent of it being jailbroken. I would love to stream my PC games on the switch. I would buy it in a heart beat if I could do that.
dave is ok
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It has been 2 man years since the Tegra X1 released though
Based on the Dragon Ball console power level chart I made, XB1 is Cell Games SSJ1 Gohan, PS4 is Perfect Cell, and Switch is Super Vegeta (aka ultra SSJ)
Gotdatmoney
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Lolololiol no. That's actually insane. I watch too much dbz cause the PS4/X1 are not that much stronger than the Switch
frankie_baby
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I was more thinking of offloading the OS from one of the a57 cores meaning 33% more CPU for games (which I'd consider chunky) but seems they cant be used
There's no small device on the market using a TX2 yet. It might just not be usable for what Nintendo wanted.
-Mutsukki-
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500 man years of shipping those crates to Nintendo
and more RAM too.
I don't think they can be active at the same time.
Boo hoo, every console has features some people won't use.
franklyshankly
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Yep, that with the Switch OS on it would be pretty nifty.
RichiRamjag
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Oh shit, that Wii U pic. Haha
Looks like it. :0
On a serious note. I'm pretty sure I read that there isn't a TX2. Their newer chips are being made for self driving cars.
Diablohead
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It's the same story with a lot of things "why did they not use the latest X or Y" it's because they saved money going with the slightly older chipset, ouya did the same thing going with an OC tegra 3 instead of the current at the time newer tegra 4.
Also remember that the Switch is not using the full power of the X1 for what ever reasons, heat, battery, customization? either way the switch could push more if allowed.
I'm happy that we have a X1 portable, I always wanted a shield tv because of how powerful they can be but then nintendo came along.
Also remember that the Switch is not using the full power of the X1 for what ever reasons, heat, battery, customization? either way the switch could push more if allowed.
I'm happy that we have a X1 portable, I always wanted a shield tv because of how powerful they can be but then nintendo came along.
Jonneh3003
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I think that those disappointed by the tech need to remember what the Switch actually is. It is a tablet computer. This image has the joy-cons still attached so it's actually even smaller than it appears to be here.
The Switch is absolutely tiny so when people say it's somewhere between Wii U and Xbox One that is a pretty great accomplishment. Sure it could be powered by a Tegra X2 but I'm sure that would have bumped up the price seeming as the processor isn't the only component of the Switch. There's the bundled joy-cons, the screen, the battery and various other parts. Sounds like Nintendo got a good deal on the X1 so I imagine anything more powerful would have bumped up the retail price.
The Switch is absolutely tiny so when people say it's somewhere between Wii U and Xbox One that is a pretty great accomplishment. Sure it could be powered by a Tegra X2 but I'm sure that would have bumped up the price seeming as the processor isn't the only component of the Switch. There's the bundled joy-cons, the screen, the battery and various other parts. Sounds like Nintendo got a good deal on the X1 so I imagine anything more powerful would have bumped up the retail price.
Osiris
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They can be used, just not at the same time as any of the A57 cores, so if you could run the OS off them you could switch off the A57's, run the O/S off the A53's and benefit from a saving in power consumption due to the difference in power requirements of the core types, this is why the big.LITTLE design exists in the first place.
Unfortunately unlike other mobile devices, the Switch spends most of it's time requiring the beefier A57 cores, so the gains from switching are minimal, hence their likely lack of use.
Ah, a rejigged box.
I'm sure they considered going down that route when merging console and handheld development, but the Vita/VitaTV combo hardly set the world on fire.
The Switch's concept is great, it does change how you play and wouldn't be grabbing attention in the way it is if it was just yet another box sat under the television. It wasn't made for you clearly, but they made the right call.
Yep, I can deal with the X1 without any problem, custom or not. I mean, I played with the Switch and no matter what the chipset inside is, I still enjoyed it! :lol
The thing is that they proclaimed that it was a customized chip, which is shady imo.
Because I didn't buy the Switch based on Nvidia's statement? I bought it because it has Nintendo games and I like the form-factor.
That's my honest answer.
Leatherface
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Honestly I really do love my Switch but this bothers me. All that bullshit about being a custom chip and all the man hours used to create it. I think Nvidia and Nintendo have some hard questions to answer. I feel duped. :\
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