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Battlefield 3 News Thread of BE ADVISED: Reviews On Monday
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ClovingWestbrook
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firehawk12 said:
They can figure out they just don't believe in putting civilians in the game and I agree with them. What I would say is they should be releasing mod tools and if that happens let others put in civilians.
MrCompletely
Member
firehawk12 said:
Huh? Your previous post mentions that DICE left civs out due to sensitivities about players killing them, and here you chalk it up to tech deficiencies. Make up your mind.
In any regard, civilians have never been in a battlefield game. That region of the world was rocked by the recent massacre, if any deliberate decision about cutting that kind of content was made, I would bet it was due to sensitivities around that event.
Angelcurio
Member
They should have included it, it's definitely one of my favorite modes in 1943.
Anton Sugar
Member
Demize is fucking throwing out answers tonight:
Brand new hitreg system for BF3,
You hear supersonic cracks based on proximity to weapon
Transport chopper pilot has no guns but rewarded for spotting targets
Hardcore sniper rifles are OHK within a certain distance
Max zoom for non-sniper rifles ix 6x
Flag points vary based on large and small version of Conquest, but don't vary across platforms
Shotguns have more variation than just "semi auto" and "pump action" like BC2
More mentions of different times of day for MP maps
No more shotgun snipers!
Explosives restock slower from ammo crates, like BC2
Flight models on console vs PC are same
Stinger IS an equippable weapon, not just mounted
Stinger can be shot from passenger seats
Mortar has smoke and HE rounds...!
Only semi snipers get suppressors?
Engineer can disable explosives
CTF in the future?
MY FUCKING IDEA WAS KINDA IMPLEMENTED: if you spawn on Radio Beacon outdoors, you parachute in. If indoors, you just spawn
AND, Radio Beacon disappears when you die.
Brand new hitreg system for BF3,
You hear supersonic cracks based on proximity to weapon
Transport chopper pilot has no guns but rewarded for spotting targets
Hardcore sniper rifles are OHK within a certain distance
Max zoom for non-sniper rifles ix 6x
Flag points vary based on large and small version of Conquest, but don't vary across platforms
Shotguns have more variation than just "semi auto" and "pump action" like BC2
More mentions of different times of day for MP maps
No more shotgun snipers!
Explosives restock slower from ammo crates, like BC2
Flight models on console vs PC are same
Stinger IS an equippable weapon, not just mounted
Stinger can be shot from passenger seats
Mortar has smoke and HE rounds...!
Only semi snipers get suppressors?
Engineer can disable explosives
CTF in the future?
MY FUCKING IDEA WAS KINDA IMPLEMENTED: if you spawn on Radio Beacon outdoors, you parachute in. If indoors, you just spawn
AND, Radio Beacon disappears when you die.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Pretty much. There are a lot of innovative and really original ideas in the stories. Now playing as a character who dies is played out, but in 2007? I loved the sequence where you play as the executed president and the soldier who dies in the nuke blast.firehawk12 said:
BC2 had nothing like that whatsoever. It didn't even succeed as a dumb action film kinda campaign. It was just bland from start to finish. I'm not sure what to think of what I've seen of BF3's story so far. In many ways it looks like an improvements with much better setpieces, but I don't know if DICE are capable of doing those epic setpieces/moments which really makes the Infinity Ward games memorable.
I know BF3 is mostly about MP, but if the SP isn't a huge improvement over BC2 I'll be pretty sad. It is half of the game, afterall.
Anton Sugar
Member
Megasoum said:
High Explosive.
Enosh said:
Well...it IS a deployable spawn point. Any better ideas on balancing it?
InfectedZero
Member
Nice list man! God this game is going to be fucking incredible.
Enosh
Member
then why isn't it a problem indors, it will just be annoying if some dumbshit is squad leader and places the thing somewhere in the open, otherwise you can just place it in the nearest buildingMr. Snrub said:
the thing doesn't sound like a balance fix at all, it just sounds like another style over substance thing
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I'm excited about the possibility of CTF. Seems like they scaled back on some features to get the game shipped on time though.
Anton Sugar
Member
Not near my comp now, but I think another tweet of his mentions that they haven't yet finalized the unlock order. Maybe beta feedback will help?
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
RoboPlato said:
Well... it's no longer per kit. Now that things unlock per weapon, you kind of have to consider the context/usefulness of unlocks on a weapon by weapon basis, in addition to thinking about specs for kits.
Hopefully they are doing this... as you'd expect different order of unlocks for a sniper rifle vs SMG. And different specs for recon vs engineer, for example.
mr_nothin said:
I'd think this beacon basically confirms they've ditched the full squad spawning... I mean it'd be completely redundant (and actually a disadvantage) otherwise. Unless I'm misunderstanding something?
SneakyStephan
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Nostalgia~4ever said:
Ugh, best to wait 2 or 3 patches before buying then, it'll have tons of problems.
Humans aren't machines, you can't work them 16/7 and expect quality work and high productivity.
The fuck are they rushing it for anyhow.
RibbedHero
Member
Stallion Free said:
I don't know, I've worked a few 90+ hour weeks, and while they are hard to endure, completing and finalising a deal is a great feeling. I imagine its a similar feeling in game development.
Hopefully they get a good bonus come December.
It's funny how you guys think that DICE are the only game developpers who are in crunch time 24/7 for the last couple of weeks before the game comes out...
It's the same thing with every AAA games. Following some of you guy's logic some games would just always get pushed back and would never get released.
It's the same thing with every AAA games. Following some of you guy's logic some games would just always get pushed back and would never get released.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
mr_nothin said:
My point is that why the heck would a recon even use it, if you could just spawn on them? It's redundant. Worse, actually... because you have to parachute in on the beacon.
If full squad spawn was in, then the beacon would be completely useless.
edit: this seems like a way to encourage recons to participate in the action around objectives. But it makes no sense if you can just spawn on them.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Izayoi said:
Then why not safely spawn on your teammate (the recon) who is in a safe spot rather then risk spawning on the beacon which is riskier and putting yourself in a compromising position? ..doesn't make much sense. Hell, I'd use the recon him/herself as a "beacon" then the actual beacon itself, Lol. Yeah, there are just as many useless... uses, imo.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, not saying its a useless mechanic but if I'm still able to spawn on teammates... I don't see the point, especially since it's safer. And it sets you up with a minor advantage (element of surprise?) where as if I spawn via beacon, you can see me coming from a mile away. Not counting indoors. Same advantage as spawning on a teammate, which makes your point semi-relevant.
I can see the Beacon being an awesome tool if used creatively. Thinking outside box can make it a great tool. I can think of a few now.
endlessflood
Member
It has the advantage of being somewhere that a person doesn't need to be. Would be interesting if you can throw them out of choppers...Evolved1 said:
But it means a sniper can find a great spawn location (that might not necessarily be a great sniping location), drop a beacon for their teammates to spawn, and then continue on to a sniping spot. So long as the sniper stays alive his squadmates can spawn on that beacon.
What...? Can you really not see how many uses the beacon might have? Especially in urban situations. Having a spawn point on or near a flag cap, while the recon is somewhere safe keeping the spawn point alive is ridiculously convenient and will be incredibly helpful for taking or defending flags (when the flag has been lost, but you need to spawn on it still to defend it).BrLvgThrChmstry said:
I'm confused. I thought they had switched it back to spawning on the squad leader only, and not just anyone in the squad. With it like that, the beacon is useful because a non-squad-leader recon can plant the beacon, and the entire team can spawn on the thing (instead of just your squad) as long as you live. So it would be in the best interest of the team if you planted the beacon, and then hid somewhere.
Imagine all the covered roofs in BC2, with attics accessible to the player. Plant a beacon in there as a recon, and suddenly you can get a good portion of the team spawned in there, and descend upon the enemy from however far behind enemy lines the recon had managed to get.
If I'm wrong though, and squad spawning isn't currently implemented like I thought it was, the usefulness of the beacon is diminished.
Imagine all the covered roofs in BC2, with attics accessible to the player. Plant a beacon in there as a recon, and suddenly you can get a good portion of the team spawned in there, and descend upon the enemy from however far behind enemy lines the recon had managed to get.
If I'm wrong though, and squad spawning isn't currently implemented like I thought it was, the usefulness of the beacon is diminished.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Izayoi said:
But if he or fellow teammates are in the vicinity already... why not just spawn on them? If teammates are all waiting in queue with me (including the recon), sure. Spawn on the beacon. But otherwise, don't see the point. I can instantly spawn on a teammate. Or float down like a fairy. Again, not counting indoors.. but I'm inclined to believe most flags will probably be out doors.
LordCanti said:
This. Unless something has changed/been announced. I think you can spawn on any squad member.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah full squad spawning HAS to be out now. The radio beacon would serve little purpose if you could, especially since it disappears once the Recon dies.
We might be able to name a few, but from a design perspective, it doesn't make much sense to have both.
We might be able to name a few, but from a design perspective, it doesn't make much sense to have both.
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