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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
- Thread starter Seik
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Wow. How much if you don't mind me asking? Obi?
This is the next heaavy hitter on my list.
D.Lo
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Holy shite
Good shit!
Hi, I'm the developer behind the menu software for the Rhea/Phoebe ODEs.
I tend to simply lurk around some of these appreciation threads every now and then, as I enjoy following them, and in fact the Dreamcast thread had a hand in renewing my interest for the console a few years back.
But anyway, to the point, for any member here using my software, if you happen to experience any issues feel free to PM me and I'll gladly look into it whenever I have the chance.
Now regarding the aforementioned games, I can also attest that there's no known issues with those (at least on my end) including Nights into Dreams (US region) which for me works correctly with fast boot mode.
Actually, with the improvements in v0.2 and after all the extensive testing done by me and a few users, I'm not aware of any game that currently doesn't work with that boot mode.
I'm not saying that it is entirely outside of the realm of possibilities for some games to not work well with that mode, but simply put it's not feasible for me to test every single game in the console library to find it out.
So I think it's very likely that the issues are being caused by the rips themselves, I suggest to try ripping those games with another software, like CloneCD or CD Manipulator which is a free/open source alternative.
(the latter requires renaming the extension of header file from .CDM to .CCD for it to be recognized by the ODE)
However to guarantee perfect rips, you'd want to either follow the Sega Saturn dumping guide or use DiscImageCreator. That way track hashes can be matched against the database to confirm the dumps are fine.
Obviously what's described in that guide isn't exactly accessible for everyone, including drive requirements. So then the alternative (to save some headaches) is to obtain good dumps from another source instead.
I know this is a morally gray area, but to each their own, personally I see nothing wrong with it in this particular instance, as long as you own the discs themselves.
Another possible cause, could be the SD card itself, likely by having some high latency spikes on read access or because some sort of internal upkeep function which causes instability (common with Transcend)
So in conclusion, it's always a good idea to first try a different brand/size of SD card, just to make sure it is not at fault.
Awesome post, thanks for sharing!
400 bucks. 200 from ThankYou rewards points, and 200 actual money. The obi was folded up behind the manual, didnt know it was included from the description.
Hey, thanks for the reply, and thank you for your contributions to the menu! I've generally had a great experience with it, and at this point feel like any minor gripes I may have with it are truly me just being particular. The fact that I am able to instantly load any of my games via a visual interface seamless on the system without so much as touching the disc drive is fantastic!
I'll check out some of the resources you have mentioned. I have definitely not ruled out my ripped images being the issue -- they were being ripped and converted through a series of different computers and virtual machines using Daemon Tools and DiscJuggler. My SD card could also be the issue, as it was a cheap hand me down that came god knows where, originally...
I may end up having to take you up on your offer of bugging you via PM.
sixteen-bit
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Hyper jelly
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Dude!!! Awesome pickup!
Amazing. Crazy how big a difference in price that little piece of cardboard can make.
Serge85
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Hello Irvin, First of all I want to thank you for your work, thank you so much!! my phoebe wouldn't be as awesome as it is without your software!
Second, I retested Nights into dreams after reading your post, several times using fast boot, and it does indeed works, so my bad, maybe last time I wasn't patient enough in the loading screen (black screen).
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Agreed! Playstation has some great games, but the Saturn just tickles me in the right spot. Same goes for the Genesis. I just vastly prefer that to the SNES.
Even as a SEGA guy myself, I believe the Mega Drive and the Super Nintendo had a much more balanced fight. Sure the latter came with heavier games (especially by the end of its life-cycle), but the MD library is just as rich, in my opinion. With the Saturn, on the other hand, the story is objectively different... Even if the guy on the right does his best to act like a bratty Sony fanboy from back then - it really brings back memories
- the video does a good job delivering a fair judgement.
vetrox
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That copy looks mint, good for you! Does it play OK?
Eolz
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Got a Saturn this week, first time I own one.
I've seen before a must-have is the cartridge to play imports (don't remember the name right now) but is there anything else really recommended?
Also, I know it might be some sacrilege, but any good cable to use to plug on a modern screen until I find a good CRT?
I've seen before a must-have is the cartridge to play imports (don't remember the name right now) but is there anything else really recommended?
Also, I know it might be some sacrilege, but any good cable to use to plug on a modern screen until I find a good CRT?
If you own a Sega Saturn and you don't own Nights, you're doing it wrong. Other than that, recommendations are going to vary by taste.
Augemitbutter
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I've forgotten how great GRANDIA looks on the SS
is there still no translation for the sat? it sucks we never got this....
3D Controller if you plan on investing getting NiGHTS.
I know you're a fan of the DOA series and the Saturn has the best port of the original game, but keep in mind it is only available if you import. Other classic arcade ports you can't go wrong with are Sega Rally, Virtua Cop, and Virtua Fighter 2.
For console-original games there's Fighters Megamix, Panzer Dragoon I & II, and Die Hard Arcade.
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I would have loved a US long box version of this. Personally, I think it's better than Final Fantasy VII.
Augemitbutter
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yes, i always preferred it over FFVII.
cj_iwakura
Member
I personally liked Grandia 2 more. Not sure why, it just felt way more polished and unique.
If you want fighting games there's also the Capcom fighters - Street Fighter Alpha 2, Vampire Hunter, Xmen vs Street Fighter, etc.
Just to fan even more fuel between PSX vs Saturn there is even a Digital Foundry video of said battle!
If you have already seen this then please ignore otherwise enjoy
from REZZED 2017
DF retro Saturn VS Playstation
If you have already seen this then please ignore otherwise enjoy
from REZZED 2017
DF retro Saturn VS Playstation
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Nothing we already didn't know, but Sonic Mania sure looks like the Saturn launch title we've been waiting for.
I still prefer the Saturn over the PSX
Laws00
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I've been posting in the retro spot but ya my Saturn came in yesterday. Region modded can play backups. I'm happy. I can retire my USA Sega Saturn now
Maybe it's my burner or the games i'm finding that have errors in them but i've run into a few games that i can't burn/play.
Got my last 13 CDs left.
Maybe it's my burner or the games i'm finding that have errors in them but i've run into a few games that i can't burn/play.
Got my last 13 CDs left.
Shin Johnpv
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That is a beautiful Saturn.
Laws00
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After about 20 years looking at magazines, looking at Solus and her outfit, I finally played Groove on Fight.
Had no idea it was part of the Power Instinct series or Gouketsuji Ichizoku
Not a fan. Not a fan at all. The in game animations remind me of some amateur Mugen stype stuff. All things considering I love Matrimelee but can't get into this game.
And how come it took me all this time to find out the name of the guy that does all the artwork is Range Murata lol
The weak shouldn't pronounce the name "Goketsuji".
Had no idea it was part of the Power Instinct series or Gouketsuji Ichizoku
Not a fan. Not a fan at all. The in game animations remind me of some amateur Mugen stype stuff. All things considering I love Matrimelee but can't get into this game.
And how come it took me all this time to find out the name of the guy that does all the artwork is Range Murata lol
The weak shouldn't pronounce the name "Goketsuji".
Laws00
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could be because I learned that it was all done by ATLUS in house people. Maybe thats why I didn't like the game lol
I need to look into this Rabbit game. It looks familiar as hell to me
sixteen-bit
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GoF is fun imo. I wish I could play the arcade version since it's supposed to be better (despite being a ST-V game?)
IrishNinja
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agreed, that thing is gorgeous
A local game store has one also in box for, I believe, $200. I contemplated it, but thought better of it. Damned if it ain't pretty, though.
Laws00
Member
thanks for the comments on my Saturn guys. I'm actually scared i'm going to scuff the thing. i'm using my old av cord and controller from my other one as i dont want to mess with it too much lol
was online looking at pictures. Looks so damn good. vintage games from the 90s so colorful
Welcome to the Hyper Duel elite club!
We need to print shirts for us, five people in the world owning a copy, hah!
I wonder if a Saturn port would be possible. Doesn't look like the game demands too much power.
I don't think we could find anyone to willingly work with Saturn code
sixteen-bit
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I imagine there's a lot of stuff going on under the hood that exceeds the Saturn horsepower so it would probably have to be remade from scratch.
Don't underestimate the Sonic fanbase!
Laevateinn
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I would actually love to program for the Saturn but have never been able to properly setup a dev toolset.
GurgleBot20
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Barely any luck looking on eBay so I may as well try again here.
Does anybody have any spare US Saturn cases or even the front covers? These things crack with ease and I'd love to replace the covers for my copies of Daytona and Fighter's Megamix.
Besides that, what are the absolute cheapest Saturn games out there that I can purchase just to use the cases? I looked at NHL, but most of those auctions have cracks in the cases as well.
This is another advantage to buying Japanese games.
Edit: Are Sega CD cases the exact same?
Does anybody have any spare US Saturn cases or even the front covers? These things crack with ease and I'd love to replace the covers for my copies of Daytona and Fighter's Megamix.
Besides that, what are the absolute cheapest Saturn games out there that I can purchase just to use the cases? I looked at NHL, but most of those auctions have cracks in the cases as well.
This is another advantage to buying Japanese games.
Edit: Are Sega CD cases the exact same?
I wish that I could find a place that sells cases for either the Sega CD, or Saturn. Hell, I imagine that the old long-box PS1 cases would work, but don't quote me.
The easiest/cheapest method I've come across is to buy a worthless sports game in good condition, and swap out cases.
The easiest/cheapest method I've come across is to buy a worthless sports game in good condition, and swap out cases.
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+1
It's their only reason for existing at this point.