giancarlo123x
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Fucking really?
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Far Cry 4's art is racist and the antagonist is (potentially) gay
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MHWilliams
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Uno Venova
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If the main villain ends up being racist, what's wrong with that?
Brutalitops
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Op's twitter is a goldmine. He'll bitch and moan about GAF on twitter, but can't be bothered to come defend his point. I guess we are just all too disgusting for him.
https://twitter.com/Jed05/status/467100490493218816
https://twitter.com/Jed05/status/467100490493218816
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
well do you deny that we do live in a white dominate society?
What you're saying is that we should treat gay video game characters different from non-gay characters (IF he is gay, as you are stereotyping here that the character is gay because he's wearing pink and is dyed blonde).
Those are the only issues I see with the cover.
Balls. I was quoting the man quoting you. Thanks for pointing it out.
Boy, I looked at the box art earlier and all I could think of was that the guy I presume to be the villain looks like Anderson Cooper to me.
I can't say for sure that the image is racist. It looks like is degrading and dehumanizing. But for all we know the games main character is a native who is killing non-natives invading the land. Who knows. It certainly doesn't look great so far. The art for Far Cry 3 looked much better to me and sold Vaas as a crazy villain which seemed to work. I didn't factor race in when looking at it at all. Now I happen to see this one in a racial way but I'm not sure if I would get there on my own or if the thread forced me to see it.
As for the character being gay, I really didn't even consider that at all. Just thought he was supposed to be some stylish guy. Even looking at the art now as I type I don't know if I register him as gay. Maybe if he was pulling a Volgin and cupping balls I might think "Oh, is he gay?" But so far, nothing.
Still waiting to hear more information about this game. Honestly, hoping I can play as a native though.
I feel maybe too much was read into this too soon.
I can't say for sure that the image is racist. It looks like is degrading and dehumanizing. But for all we know the games main character is a native who is killing non-natives invading the land. Who knows. It certainly doesn't look great so far. The art for Far Cry 3 looked much better to me and sold Vaas as a crazy villain which seemed to work. I didn't factor race in when looking at it at all. Now I happen to see this one in a racial way but I'm not sure if I would get there on my own or if the thread forced me to see it.
As for the character being gay, I really didn't even consider that at all. Just thought he was supposed to be some stylish guy. Even looking at the art now as I type I don't know if I register him as gay. Maybe if he was pulling a Volgin and cupping balls I might think "Oh, is he gay?" But so far, nothing.
Still waiting to hear more information about this game. Honestly, hoping I can play as a native though.
I feel maybe too much was read into this too soon.
Brutalitops
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Oh shit! He quoted one of my posts in his twitter rage.
Fuck yeah https://twitter.com/Jed05/status/467076697649467392
Whoops, sorry all, I wasn't accusing the OP of anything. Just making a statement from the extreme opposite end of the spectrum as a discussion framer. I tend to do that.
But people aren't focusing on the handling. They get fixated on the literal depiction. If the depiction exists, it is bad. That's it. No mitigating factors. No other consideration. It simply cannot be good because it is trope-y (that trope being something that offends them, of course).
Sadly, people do this all the time.
They say something stupid or controversial and people call them out. Instead of having a actually discussion, they just retreat to a safe space and pretend like they're right regardless of what the opposition says. They also lump all critics together and judge them by the worst offenders.
BurnOutBrighter
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Only a thread like this could compete with one for NPD sales...
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I think its cute, seeing his little posse high-fiving eachother over accomplishing nothing and failing to raise even a single valid point. As usual.
Jed Whitaker @Jed05 · 25m
That being said at least there is the Mii characters option in Mario Kart 8. I do like having some dialogue about it though.
fighting the good fight, one incredibly tough issue after another.
I guess this is what he considers creating "dialogue"?
yup while ignoring the real content and focusing on how 99% OF ALL RESPONSES ARE TOTALLY OFF THE WALL CRAZY HOLD ME GUYS.
That being said at least there is the Mii characters option in Mario Kart 8. I do like having some dialogue about it though.
fighting the good fight, one incredibly tough issue after another.
I guess this is what he considers creating "dialogue"?
yup while ignoring the real content and focusing on how 99% OF ALL RESPONSES ARE TOTALLY OFF THE WALL CRAZY HOLD ME GUYS.
OP has made other threads like this?
Luft Vanship
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OP is building a mountain out of a mole hill, and is getting called out on it, now he is bitching on twitter typical.
scoobidoo112
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Wow, the smugness coming from OP and his Veerender buddy's twitter is off the charts
Luft Vanship
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He is trying to get attention, for his crappy youtube channel.
Bloodworth
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The guy isn't conclusively gay. He's not even conclusively white. The only thing that is clear is that he is a villain who likes expensive clothes and thinks he's better than everyone else.
Has no one even picked up on the fact that he's decapitated the statue of a god and is using it as his throne? He thinks he's godlike. This is not a good guy.
Has no one even picked up on the fact that he's decapitated the statue of a god and is using it as his throne? He thinks he's godlike. This is not a good guy.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
He seems quite proud of himself, doesn't he?
Why does he not come out and call us all ignorant on GAF, instead of going to Twitter to do it?
OP, you can't escape the fact you can't call out stereotypes when you in fact stereotyped someone yourself.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
No, but he and his Twitter cohorts in the linked conversation have a reputation that kind of makes the existence of this whole ridiculous thread make sense.
only if they are wearing purple shirts and have the appropriate wrist positioning to confirm things
Pathetic and awful, but not surprising behavior given the subject matter.
legacyzero
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Wow.
Watching a new firestorm break out every day quickly grows exhausting. Same reason a bunch of people are getting sick of game performance threads, even if the overall subject merits discussion. Folks get wound up too much on both sides of the fence which makes the dialogue tiring to read for anyone with a moderate or undetermined stance, and then every possible point of contention gets blown into a new thread, so it's impossible to ever get them out of your peripheral awareness even if you're actively avoiding them.
This thread right here is entitled "Far Cry 4's art is racist", which is a very strong starting point for a discussion, and all the OP's got to back that claim up is Twitter reactions, which is the worst possible platform for constructive discourse. He's also not personally calling the art racist, so I can't fathom what he was thinking by phrasing the title in such a declarative way that's guaranteed to draw equally strong kneejerk replies.
Toning the ferocity and quantity of the discourse down would go a long way towards improving its quality.
Seems like a lot of assumptions and outrage over something we know pretty much nothing about. The villain looked Asian or some mixed race to me, and I don't think we can determine his sexuality based on a hair style and the color of his suit. I mean, isn't that being a bit stereotypical? How about saving the rage for when we know more about the plot, and anything at all about the characters.
Luft Vanship
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Bloodworth to the rescue, but yeah I noticed that too maybe he is wealthy arms dealer?
Forgottonone
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ha ha ha mannn, really? Gays are just people.. even a racist is just a person.. but this game is all fictional.. I understand your gripe though.. For me the biggest downfall in video games is putting movie stars into games..
Jed Whitaker ‏@Jed05 1m
YA FOUND ME. OH NOES. #WitchHunt
and now hes claiming witch hunt. I think this funship has run its course.
In case you actually care about things OP, no one would have called you out if you didn't come across so ass backwards with your intention.
YA FOUND ME. OH NOES. #WitchHunt
and now hes claiming witch hunt. I think this funship has run its course.
In case you actually care about things OP, no one would have called you out if you didn't come across so ass backwards with your intention.
Chairmanchuck
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So. Wearing a pink suit and looking like someone from scandinavia is considered gay now?
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I just woke up from a cat nap and saw this thread...
I can't believe him and the edits.
Regardless of what side you're on, as always, this is NeoGAF
themagicalkitsune
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I thought he already did? lol
Windom Earle
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Epic thread backfire!
Dr.Bergenstein
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Okay, so any storyline where an outsider intervenes in another culture's ongoing struggle is inherently racist. Gotcha.
And actually, I was going to use the US as an example. I guess those people asking for help in the Ukraine don't realize they're feeding into the "White Saviour" agenda? How about the Nigerians?...
Gun Animal
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lol i'm straight and i dress and look almost exactly like that all the time. Have I been being straight wrong this whole time?
No, you are just being someone who I would happily take male fashion advice from. Keep up the good work.
There probably are factions on the ground who resent outside interference in what to them appear as internal affairs, actually.
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