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Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 07:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by K' Dash

I'd love to see you try, I already smoked yours using Toadette with standard kart, tires and glider ;)

Hey, even the most manly of Koopas can throw a match now and then. ;_;

Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

How is this even remotely close to cheating?

Dunno, but it amuses me to no end to see people claim that it is. :D
foxuzamaki
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(06-03-2014, 07:11 PM)
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Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol
Tabasco
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(06-03-2014, 07:13 PM)
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I'm hoping that Nintendo patches this like they did with the huge Wuhu shortcut in MK7.
SpacePirate Ridley
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(06-03-2014, 07:13 PM)
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So I just made this:
Tanner1495
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(06-03-2014, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by random25

You're just a great player...that's why :)

I wish that was the case, but that AI is killing me
Gentle Rodriguez
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(06-03-2014, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by foxuzamaki

Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol

I love doing it on that part on Mount Wario with all the small bumps, feels so good.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 07:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tabasco

I'm hoping that Nintendo patches this like they did with the huge Wuhu shortcut in MK7.

I hope that Nintendo patches in L canceling. Just out of spite.
AkimbO_Arcana
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(06-03-2014, 07:14 PM)
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Robin64, I'm sooooorrryyy... *drives away*
Robin64
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(06-03-2014, 07:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by AkimbO_Arcana

Robin64, I'm sooooorrryyy... *drives away*

>:(
-PXG-
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(06-03-2014, 07:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

Loooool
ChrisD
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(06-03-2014, 07:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by foxuzamaki

Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol

you're cheating shame on you

Some places it's actually better to not trick. Wario Stadium's three little mud panels come to mind. Tricks keep you in the air for a longer time that can really add up over time.
K' Dash
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(06-03-2014, 07:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

Hey, even the most manly of Koopas can throw a match now and then. ;_;

Dunno, but it amuses me to no end to see people claim that it is. :D

yeah, I've thrown my fair share :/
random25
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(06-03-2014, 07:16 PM)
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Well, that escalated quickly :p

Just learn the skill, folks. It's not that big of a deal-breaker (at least for me), especially when everybody here knows how to do it. If it makes us better players then why not? And I'm yet to do that myself.
KingSnake
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(06-03-2014, 07:16 PM)
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A hopping overreaction!
I really like to see how hopping will help anyone against a barrage of items.
Shaanyboi
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(06-03-2014, 07:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

bravo
Timeaisis
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(06-03-2014, 07:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

Lol well done.
Kurtofan
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(06-03-2014, 07:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nezumi

Smashed into me with a star infront of ramp causing lakitu to carry me backwards on the track. All of this when I was already second to last...

Ah sorry, that was a bit overkill.
Ansatz
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(06-03-2014, 07:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

How is this even remotely close to cheating?

edit: lol



Not sure if serious

Not cheating but exploiting an unintended mechanic. As far as I'm aware the game is not meant to be played this way by the developer.
daydreaming
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(06-03-2014, 07:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

The better player won, then

Originally Posted by NIN90

Hmmm, the guy in first place has superior knowledge of the game and can pull of an advanced technique. He's obviously better thus he should win.

Originally Posted by Clockwork5

Because he is better at Mario Kart 8...

Have it your way, then.
Gentle Rodriguez
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(06-03-2014, 07:17 PM)
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Honestly just let it go for awhile and it'll be obvious in time whether it's gamebreaking or not.

In the mean time, Nintendo pls patch comm errors.
RiggyRob
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(06-03-2014, 07:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

Red Shell in second place? Too unrealistic.

It's a great gif, good job.
Tabasco
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(06-03-2014, 07:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

I hope that Nintendo patches in L canceling. Just out of spite.

What's L cancel?
Last edited by Tabasco; 06-03-2014 at 07:19 PM.
Baleoce
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(06-03-2014, 07:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

amazing xD
Darkgran
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(06-03-2014, 07:18 PM)
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I spent 3 hours yesterday playing this with my kids. Such an amazing game.
Starwolf_UK
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(06-03-2014, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by KingSnake

A hopping overreaction!
I really like to see how hopping will help anyone against a barrage of items.

I'd love for them to bring back the feather.
Leunam
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(06-03-2014, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by ChrisD

Some places it's actually better to not trick. Wario Stadium's three little mud panels come to mind. Tricks keep you in the air for a longer time that can really add up over time.

Really? I feel like I get such a good burst of speed to get past people just taking the boost pads.

Originally Posted by foxuzamaki

Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol

I've been trying to perfect them on Rainbow Road (N64) and Bowsers Castle. I miss them sometimes on the flexible roads when they move like waves.
ffdgh
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(06-03-2014, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tabasco

What's L cancel?

An advance technique from super smash bros 64 and melee.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tabasco

What's L cancel?

An advanced technique from melee that reduced lag. It's been long debated as to whether or not it's worth having around, especially since it was removed from Brawl.

I was just messing around. <3
SpacePirate Ridley
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(06-03-2014, 07:21 PM)
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As someone who has just learned about this, and watching some videos, this seems more an advanced technique than cheating (for example, im of the opinion snaking WAS cheating). I dont think this hoping will help much if objects ar coming right your way during a normal match.
The only bad thing im seeing if im reading right is that this gives another disadvantage to the already difficult to use inner drifting bikes. Inner drifting bikes are awesome, but just commit a subtle change in the drift of a turn, and your bike will eb going on the dirt or to a hole.

Originally Posted by RiggyRob

Red Shell in second place? Too unrealistic.

It's a great gif, good job.

Newman got it when going third place lol
ive seen my fair share of red shells in second place during the last lap
-tetsuo-
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(06-03-2014, 07:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ansatz

Not cheating but exploiting an unintended mechanic. As far as I'm aware the game is not meant to be played this way by the developer.

As far as I'm aware the game is meant to be played this way by the developers.
bender
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(06-03-2014, 07:23 PM)
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If it were an advanced technique wouldn't all vehicles be able to utilize said technique?
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by bender

If it were an advanced technique wouldn't all vehicles be able to utilize said technique?

The only ones that can't have sharper turning than those who can.
-PXG-
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(06-03-2014, 07:23 PM)
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Debates over items and advanced techniques. Must be a Smash thread...
BKSmash
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(06-03-2014, 07:24 PM)
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My first upload! Hehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxpEFAXGSr4

Take a look at DKs ''let me take a selfie'' moment around ..0.07! The video is filled with minor fun looks and motions, pretty darn happy with it!
exfatal
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(06-03-2014, 07:24 PM)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWINT_Tge0Q

All hail the true princess of racing!!
Yokai
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(06-03-2014, 07:25 PM)
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In regards to the hopping trick, it doesn't REALLY raise the skill ceiling since it's easy to do and, even worse, there's no real way to mess up. Worse case scenario isn't that you hop a few times more than usual and maintain a regular speed. Best case scenario, you boost a while longer.

It's basically a non choice. Everyone should just mash jump.

Again, this isn't as broken as snaking. It will shave maybe 3s off a race.
St3v3
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(06-03-2014, 07:26 PM)
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I really wish I had bought the Mario Kart console bundle for 200 when Tesco were doing it for that price. I can't find anyone offering a similar deal ATM.
ffdgh
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(06-03-2014, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by exfatal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWINT_Tge0Q

All hail the true princess of racing!!

Best princess indeed. Nice finish.
ChrisD
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(06-03-2014, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Leunam

Really? I feel like I get such a good burst of speed to get past people just taking the boost pads.



I've been trying to perfect them on Rainbow Road (N64) and Bowsers Castle. I miss them sometimes on the flexible roads when they move like waves.

You should still take the boost pads; all three of them. But don't trick off of each. The third is probably fine to trick on, but the boost you get from the first two basically goes to waste since there's already another boost waiting for you before the trick's boost would come in use.

...I really suck at wording, sorry.
random25
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(06-03-2014, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by -PXG-

Debates over items and advanced techniques. Must be a Smash thread...

There are already 2 types of Kart players you know..."Causal" and "Competitive" :)

But seriously, it's nothing too serious to be overblown.
bender
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(06-03-2014, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

The only ones that can't have sharper turning than those who can.

Does that create balance between the two types? Sorry for all of the questions.
Tabasco
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(06-03-2014, 07:27 PM)
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Would you guys say that inward drifting bikes have an advantage over the other vehicles?

These bikes not having the hop technique may not be such a bad thing if the drifting helps you to maneuver yourself around the track faster.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 07:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yokai

In regards to the hopping trick, it doesn't REALLY raise the skill ceiling since it's easy to do and, even worse, there's no real way to mess up. Worse case scenario isn't that you hop a few times more than usual and maintain a regular speed. Best case scenario, you boost a while longer.

It's basically a non choice. Everyone should just mash jump.

Again, this isn't as broken as snaking. It will shave maybe 3s off a race.

You act like every match is a time trial. Spamming hop has consequences when you're racing others...
ViewtifulJC
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(06-03-2014, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yokai

In regards to the hopping trick, it doesn't REALLY raise the skill ceiling since it's easy to do and, even worse, there's no real way to mess up. Worse case scenario isn't that you hop a few times more than usual and maintain a regular speed. Best case scenario, you boost a while longer.

It's basically a non choice. Everyone should just mash jump.

Again, this isn't as broken as snaking. It will shave maybe 3s off a race.

This was always my problem with L-cancelling. There was no reason NOT to do it. Whats the disadvantage of L-cancelling?
Ansatz
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(06-03-2014, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

As far as I'm aware the game is meant to be played this way by the developers.

Point me to an official source. It's not described in the manual, CPUs never use it, Nintendo ghosts never use it, never seen it in media nor have I heard about it from an interview.

I'm specifically talking about artificially increasing the effect of drift boosting by hopping.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by bender

Does that create balance between the two types? Sorry for all of the questions.

Probably not? That said, I win plenty in GAF rooms using the inferior type. Granted, as the new tech spreads I'll likely need to adapt. We'll see.
Phaezyk
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(06-03-2014, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yokai

In regards to the hopping trick, it doesn't REALLY raise the skill ceiling since it's easy to do and, even worse, there's no real way to mess up. Worse case scenario isn't that you hop a few times more than usual and maintain a regular speed. Best case scenario, you boost a while longer.

It's basically a non choice. Everyone should just mash jump.

Again, this isn't as broken as snaking. It will shave maybe 3s off a race.

Yeah... after thinking it over a bit I'm sure Online MP will still be fine. It's really only beneficial for time trials and that's where you want all sorts of cool advanced techniques to shorten the time, especially if they lead to inventive shortcuts!
Yokai
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(06-03-2014, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

You act like every match is a time trial. Spamming hop has consequences when you're racing others...

What consequences?

The worst I can think is maybe making yourself an easy target for being crashed into.
professa_k
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(06-03-2014, 07:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gentle Rodriguez

Anyone know the time difference between doing and not doing the hops?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF_YhA8K47E

ghost doing first turn with the hops vs doing it without the hops

you can see how much the bunny hopping keeps the boost active
ffdgh
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(06-03-2014, 07:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tabasco

Would you guys say that inward drifting bikes have an advantage over the other vehicles?

These bikes not having the hop technique may not be such a bad thing if the drifting helps you to maneuver yourself around the track faster.

Considering heavies unlike other classes can reach a balanced 4 acceleration with 3.75/4.25 speed with the four main bikes. Yeah if atlease very slightly.

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