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NIN90
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(06-03-2014, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Kinsei

Regular snaking wasn't hard to do, but it still completely ruined the online in Mario Kart DS.

I'm not really familiar with snaking but I don't see how this hopping can ruin online or can be even seen as cheating. Are you guys just reluctant to learn advanced techniques in your games? Did anybody think strafejumping is cheating in Quake 3?
XiaNaphryz
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(06-03-2014, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

Hop when you come out of a spark boost and you maintain momentum better than just staying on the ground. It works with everything other than inward turning bikes.

I've been unconsciously doing this a lot after boosts all this time because I'm often trying to start another drift right after. zomg am i teh cheatzors!?!
K' Dash
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(06-03-2014, 06:01 PM)
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Can't wait to get home tonight and see everybody hpping around the track :I
Loco4Coco
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(06-03-2014, 06:02 PM)
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That hopping thing doesn't look all that bad. Like people already said here that will be beneficial for single play, but it'll be harder to pull off in MP.
ViewtifulJC
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(06-03-2014, 06:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by K' Dash

Can't wait to get home tonight and see everybody hpping around the track :I

how mad are u tho
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 06:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

Doesn't seem cheap at all...

Not cheap. Cheating.

Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

I've been unconsciously doing this a lot after boosts all this time because I'm often trying to start another drift right after.

Perhaps you should be banned for it.
Berordn
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(06-03-2014, 06:03 PM)
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Kinda seems like a bug, to be honest. Though it impacts gameplay in a way that doesn't break the game, so who knows if they'll patch it. It's kinda like the Point to Point "shortcuts" in MK7.

Maybe they'll prevent it from happening in online and keep it on for local so it doesn't break time trials?
daveo42
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(06-03-2014, 06:03 PM)
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I'd say it's only bad if it can't be applied across the board to all bikes and karts. If this does become the norm, bikes may end up becoming obsolete online.
Kinsei
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(06-03-2014, 06:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by NIN90

I'm not really familiar with snaking but I don't see how this hopping can ruin online or can be even seen as cheating. Are you guys just reluctant to learn advanced techniques in your games? Did anybody think strafejumping is cheating in Quake 3?

Stuff like that (To my knowledge) didn't limit what you could use online. This game is already poorly balanced, and this just fucks it up even more
XiaNaphryz
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(06-03-2014, 06:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

Perhaps you should be banned for it.

I should have a lifetime exemption after that Luigi thread blew up! ;P
Timeaisis
(06-03-2014, 06:04 PM)
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Sure, it'd be useful for time trial. But in the chaos of a 12-person race, I don't see hopping being all that effective.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 06:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by K' Dash

Can't wait to get home tonight and see everybody hpping around the track :I

I'll smoke your ass using Roy on a bike if that'll make you feel better? :)

Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

I should have a lifetime exemption after that Luigi thread blew up! ;P

Meme proliferation is no excuse for cheating, intentional or not! ;)
Ansatz
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(06-03-2014, 06:04 PM)

Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

Doesn't seem cheap at all...

It's unfair that your drift boost will last longer / have a better effect that mine simply because you mastered this technique, it makes no sense. I'm in favor of normalization. Now, hopping to better line up for your next drift is completely fair.
K' Dash
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(06-03-2014, 06:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

how mad are u tho

there's no need to be upset.

I'll just master it, like I said there were people doing it yesterday in some races, I thought it was weird, so I cured them with a green or red shell.

Originally Posted by Acerac

I'll smoke your ass using Roy on a bike if that'll make you feel better? :)

I'd love to see you try, I already smoked yours using Toadette with standard kart, tires and glider ;)
daydream
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(06-03-2014, 06:05 PM)
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I respectfully disagree with people saying it doesn't make a difference online/with items.

A situation where first and second place are among themselves, with the rest of the pack trailing far behind, arises all the time. If the guy in first used the technique and the guy in second place didn't, the guy using it would have a serious advantage, period.
chaosblade
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(06-03-2014, 06:05 PM)
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Two man race? Okay...
Vylash
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(06-03-2014, 06:05 PM)
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I asked this yesterday, but to the rankings randomly get reset?
octopiggy
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(06-03-2014, 06:06 PM)
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So many over reactions to the snake hopping.

I really don't see how this is any different from getting a boost start, trick boosts or recovery boosts from previous games. They're all inside techniques that need to be honed. There will always be elite players that know how to get an extra few seconds out of each track even if its perfecting a corner cut.

I just gave it a quick go and I think it's a bit beyond my capabilities so I think I'll leave it. But I have respect for those who have mastered it.
Clockwork5
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(06-03-2014, 06:06 PM)

Originally Posted by daydreaming

I respectfully disagree with people saying it doesn't make a difference online/with items.

A situation where first and second place are among themselves, with the rest of the pack trailing far behind, arises all the time. If the guy in first used the technique and the guy in second place didn't, the guy using it would have a serious advantage, period.

Because he is better at Mario Kart 8...
Loco4Coco
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(06-03-2014, 06:06 PM)
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Now that I aware of this I'll be canceling my WiiU/games order.
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(06-03-2014, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timeaisis

Sure, it'd be useful for time trial. But in the chaos of a 12-person race, I don't see hopping being all that effective.

Indeed but when it works, it really works...for me.

Surprised no one never noticed peach randomly hoping before.
ChrisD
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(06-03-2014, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

I'll smoke your ass using Roy on a bike if that'll make you feel better? :)


Meme proliferation is no excuse for cheating, intentional or not! ;)

It's true, he can.

And will.

My futile hops last night barely did anything haha. Think you still pulled in front for three of the four races I saw you in.


In reply to above, on my screen she actually wasn't hopping. Just... going really fast. Mario Kart handles any lag funny, so that was probably my Internet acting up.
RiggyRob
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(06-03-2014, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ansatz

It's unfair that your drift boost will last longer / have a better effect that mine simply because you mastered this technique, it makes no sense. I'm in favor of normalization. Now, hopping to better line up for your next drift is completely fair.

The thing is, it's not something to master really. It's the same as holding down acceleration when the 2 stops at the countdown, it's very simple.
ViewtifulJC
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(06-03-2014, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by daydreaming

I respectfully disagree with people saying it doesn't make a difference online/with items.

A situation where first and second place are among themselves, with the rest of the pack trailing far behind, arises all the time. If the guy in first used the technique and the guy in second place didn't, the guy using it would have a serious advantage, period.

The better player won, then
TheCanisDirus
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(06-03-2014, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

I've been unconsciously doing this a lot after boosts all this time because I'm often trying to start another drift right after. zomg am i teh cheatzors!?!

Same. I discovered this after chaining left/right drifts back to back to back... id miss or hit the wrong direction coming out of a boost and have to hop another one to two times and noticed i didn't slow down near as much. Accidental discovery. That said i don't take it to the extreme like the RR WR video... and i don't think it's cheating... more an exploit. I do hope it is patched though.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ansatz

It's unfair that your drift boost will last longer / have a better effect that mine simply because you mastered this technique, it makes no sense. I'm in favor of normalization. Now, hopping to better line up for your next drift is completely fair.

Personally I think it's unfair that people who master drifting are able to get speed boosts at all. As a technique that wasn't around from the original Mario Kart I think it shouldn't be a required technique to compete. It honestly makes no sense to me, why would sparks give you a huge boost, it bottles the mind. Now I'm all for the sharper turns that occur based on drifting, but... *vomits blood all over myself*

Oh God I'm so sorry I don't know what happened.
Tanner1495
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(06-03-2014, 06:09 PM)
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Mario Kart 8 is such a great game, I actually posted a review about it here if anyone is still on the fence about it (but why would you be?).

I have never had this much trouble on 150 CC, the AI kicks my ass like every race, yet I am still consistently in the Top 3 every race, I don't know what's going on!
NIN90
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(06-03-2014, 06:09 PM)

Originally Posted by daydreaming

I respectfully disagree with people saying it doesn't make a difference online/with items.

A situation where first and second place are among themselves, with the rest of the pack trailing far behind, arises all the time. If the guy in first used the technique and the guy in second place didn't, the guy using it would have a serious advantage, period.

Hmmm, the guy in first place has superior knowledge of the game and can pull of an advanced technique. He's obviously better thus he should win.
random25
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(06-03-2014, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tanner1495

Mario Kart 8 is such a great game, I actually posted a review about it here if anyone is still on the fence about it (but why would you be?).

I have never had this much trouble on 150 CC, the AI kicks my ass like every race, yet I am still consistently in the Top 3 every race, I don't know what's going on!

You're just a great player...that's why :)
-tetsuo-
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(06-03-2014, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

Not cheap. Cheating.

How is this even remotely close to cheating?

edit: lol

Originally Posted by Ansatz

It's unfair that your drift boost will last longer / have a better effect that mine simply because you mastered this technique, it makes no sense. I'm in favor of normalization. Now, hopping to better line up for your next drift is completely fair.

Not sure if serious
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by K' Dash

I'd love to see you try, I already smoked yours using Toadette with standard kart, tires and glider ;)

Hey, even the most manly of Koopas can throw a match now and then. ;_;

Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

How is this even remotely close to cheating?

Dunno, but it amuses me to no end to see people claim that it is. :D
foxuzamaki
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(06-03-2014, 06:11 PM)
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Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol
Tabasco
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(06-03-2014, 06:13 PM)
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I'm hoping that Nintendo patches this like they did with the huge Wuhu shortcut in MK7.
SpacePirate Ridley
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(06-03-2014, 06:13 PM)
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So I just made this:
Tanner1495
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(06-03-2014, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by random25

You're just a great player...that's why :)

I wish that was the case, but that AI is killing me
Gentle Rodriguez
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(06-03-2014, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by foxuzamaki

Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol

I love doing it on that part on Mount Wario with all the small bumps, feels so good.
Acerac
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(06-03-2014, 06:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tabasco

I'm hoping that Nintendo patches this like they did with the huge Wuhu shortcut in MK7.

I hope that Nintendo patches in L canceling. Just out of spite.
AkimbO_Arcana
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(06-03-2014, 06:14 PM)
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Robin64, I'm sooooorrryyy... *drives away*
Robin64
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(06-03-2014, 06:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by AkimbO_Arcana

Robin64, I'm sooooorrryyy... *drives away*

>:(
-PXG-
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(06-03-2014, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

Loooool
ChrisD
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(06-03-2014, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by foxuzamaki

Ever since learning that you get a boost by doing tricks in the air, ive been doing it with every single small bump in the road lol

you're cheating shame on you

Some places it's actually better to not trick. Wario Stadium's three little mud panels come to mind. Tricks keep you in the air for a longer time that can really add up over time.
K' Dash
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(06-03-2014, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acerac

Hey, even the most manly of Koopas can throw a match now and then. ;_;

Dunno, but it amuses me to no end to see people claim that it is. :D

yeah, I've thrown my fair share :/
random25
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(06-03-2014, 06:16 PM)
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Well, that escalated quickly :p

Just learn the skill, folks. It's not that big of a deal-breaker (at least for me), especially when everybody here knows how to do it. If it makes us better players then why not? And I'm yet to do that myself.
KingSnake
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(06-03-2014, 06:16 PM)
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A hopping overreaction!
I really like to see how hopping will help anyone against a barrage of items.
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(06-03-2014, 06:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

bravo
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(06-03-2014, 06:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley

So I just made this:

Lol well done.
Kurtofan
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(06-03-2014, 06:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nezumi

Smashed into me with a star infront of ramp causing lakitu to carry me backwards on the track. All of this when I was already second to last...

Ah sorry, that was a bit overkill.
Ansatz
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(06-03-2014, 06:17 PM)

Originally Posted by -tetsuo-

How is this even remotely close to cheating?

edit: lol



Not sure if serious

Not cheating but exploiting an unintended mechanic. As far as I'm aware the game is not meant to be played this way by the developer.
daydream
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(06-03-2014, 06:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

The better player won, then

Originally Posted by NIN90

Hmmm, the guy in first place has superior knowledge of the game and can pull of an advanced technique. He's obviously better thus he should win.

Originally Posted by Clockwork5

Because he is better at Mario Kart 8...

Have it your way, then.
Gentle Rodriguez
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(06-03-2014, 06:17 PM)
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Honestly just let it go for awhile and it'll be obvious in time whether it's gamebreaking or not.

In the mean time, Nintendo pls patch comm errors.

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