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tak · 04:00 PM

This bit of news was posted on Kotaku's website a few minutes ago,

Originally Posted by Kotaku:

Desz over on Cheap Ass Gamer recently posted a blurry snapshot of what appears to be an internal Microsoft memo dealing with an Xbox 360 name change.

The memo, seen above, appears to suggest that this particular, model I suppose, of the Xbox 360 was once codenamed Xbox Xbox Lean or Xbox Granite and that the final name should be Xbox Pure.

I'm also intrigued by the comment that "metal plates" have been disregarded. Judging by the codenames and final name, it seems to suggest that this would be a stripped down version of the Xbox 360. Could this be Microsoft's answer to Sony's slim line of consoles? Are we soon going to be seeing a new, thin 360 with only disc-based game support and no harddrive? I'm sure, if this rumor is true, we will be finding out in the next month.

XBOX's New Name? [Cheap Ass Gamer]

UPDATE: It appears that this rumor story could be CAG throwing their credibility out the window as part of a contest. Kotaku''s decision to run rumors is always based on the credibility of the site and the information contained within it. In the past CAG has proven to be a reliable site, having broken a number of stories through apt reporting. It appears that may no longer be the case.

Basically, CheapyD challenged his users to get a made-up rumor they created and posted on the CAG forums linked to a major blog. The main point of the challenge was to show the silliness of the major blogs relying on a single unknown forum poster for their news.

Brian states that this move by CAG has damaged its credibility, but I think it just highlights how uncredible a place like Kataku is (hiding behind the term rumor to often). CheapyD did not post the rumor, it was a user from the forum.

I find this thing incredibly funny, for a number of reasons (mainly because Brian is taking it very seriously in the comments on his site).

Tathanen · (09-19-2008, 03:46 PM)

What the shit is an integraity.

tak · (09-19-2008, 03:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Tathanen:

What the shit is an integraity.

You know, that thing I misspelled.

Integrity.

Tathanen · (09-19-2008, 03:48 PM)

Originally Posted by tak:

You know, that thing I misspelled.

Oh that.

Ysiadmihi · (09-19-2008, 03:48 PM)

Oh dear :lol

beelzebozo · (09-19-2008, 03:49 PM)

sounds like a nerdfight

in other words, retarded on all sides

Firewire · (09-19-2008, 03:49 PM)

Originally Posted by tak:

You know, that thing I misspelled.

Integrity.

Watch out! The Gaf spelling police can be brutal!

Pureauthor · (09-19-2008, 03:49 PM)

If Kotaku is a reliable source of news, then we can go to Kotaku and look stuff up.

If Kotaku isn't a reliable source of news, then why does anyone here pay any attention to the site in the first place?

jooey · (09-19-2008, 03:50 PM)

Quote:

What the shit is an integraity.

I think it's one of the changelings.

tak · (09-19-2008, 03:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Firewire:

Watch out! The Gaf spelling police can be brutal!

English is not my first language, bad English is. I'm surprised I haven't been called out on it more often. :lol

Soul4ger · (09-19-2008, 03:50 PM)

Is the guy at Kotaku really named Brain?

Tideas · (09-19-2008, 03:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:

If Kotaku is a reliable source of news, then we can go to Kotaku and look stuff up.

If Kotaku isn't a reliable source of news, then why does anyone here pay any attention to the site in the first place?

only for the lulz

phez · (09-19-2008, 03:52 PM)

"see gaf, i can hate on kotaku too!"

Oni Jazar · (09-19-2008, 03:53 PM)

On the last CAGCast, CheapyD and Wombat were commenting how badly the big blogs fail to fact check their stories. They wanted to see if their readers could create their own fake story to get posted on Kota/Joy/Destr.

Same thing GAF does all the time. GAF-Internet-GAF.

Fistwell · (09-19-2008, 03:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Tathanen:

What the shit is an integraity.

Need use your brian more.

Zophar · (09-19-2008, 03:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Soul4ger:

Is the guy at Kotaku really named Brain?

Yeah Brain Croissant

solid2snake · (09-19-2008, 03:55 PM)

GAF vs Kotaku!

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Cryptozoologist · (09-19-2008, 03:56 PM)

Originally Posted by tak:

contents changeling

You rang?

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Battersea Power Station · (09-19-2008, 03:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Firewire:

Watch out! The Gaf spelling police can be brutal!

Only toward mineority's.

plagiarize · (09-19-2008, 03:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:

If Kotaku is a reliable source of news, then we can go to Kotaku and look stuff up.

If Kotaku isn't a reliable source of news, then why does anyone here pay any attention to the site in the first place?

i get why other people read the site, but not why gaffers do. most stuff we either have here first, or seconds after they do.

Dali · (09-19-2008, 03:59 PM)

Originally Posted by solid2snake:

GAF vs Kotaku!

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I've never seen Tyler Malka on Attack of the Show.

Check and mate.

maxax · (09-19-2008, 03:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Zophar:

Yeah Brain Croissant

:lol
Also this needs to be in every thread about Kotaku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZKoTfY84sU

neojubei · (09-19-2008, 03:59 PM)

Metal Gear Solid Triology should automatically win that contest.

°°ToMmY°° · (09-19-2008, 03:59 PM)

can someone finally take care of that site on GAF?

just asking, not a backseat.

Dark Octave · (09-19-2008, 04:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Tathanen:

What the shit is an integraity.

Who the fuck says "what the shit"?

sionyboy · 04:08 PM

I don't think the issue is spelling here fellaz.

That reminds me, I was amazed at Google buying Valve the other day. More top class reporting from sensationalist, page-hit whoring 'news' sites.

fanduck · (09-19-2008, 04:01 PM)

Did anybody mention yet what a stupid thing this was to have a contest about? Since blogs like Kotaku drive traffic to your site, you reward them by making them look like morons for doing so? Way to go!

Fuu · (09-19-2008, 04:02 PM)

I think it would be neat if we had a PM system that announced "Rumor day!" from time to time on GAF. Then, the select few who get those PMs would go and create threads with completely fake news only for the "game journalists" and bloggers that lurk around here to post it on their own sites.

Darklord · (09-19-2008, 04:02 PM)

They are almost as bad as N4G now. Hell, we should do something like this. Get a random GAFer to post some made up story, get a few fake posts going along with it and it'll be the top N4G story within 24 hours.

LiK · (09-19-2008, 04:02 PM)

hahaha, gotcha! ;D

solid2snake · (09-19-2008, 04:03 PM)

Originally Posted by Dark Octave:

Who the fuck says "what the shit"?

:lol

Aruarian Reflection · (09-19-2008, 04:03 PM)

Originally Posted by Oni Jazar:

On the last CAGCast, CheapyD and Wombat were commenting how badly the big blogs fail to fact check their stories. They wanted to see if their readers could create their own fake story to get posted on Kota/Joy/Destr.

Same thing GAF does all the time. GAF-Internet-GAF.

I was JUST listening to this episode yesterday. I kinda scoffed, thinking it was a funny contest idea, but that the blogs wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for any of the entries. Boy was I proven wrong :lol

CheapyD was dead-on. These blogs will publish the stupidest rumors to satisfy their quota. All they have to do is protect themselves with a "?" at the end of the blog entry title.

scxzor · (09-19-2008, 04:06 PM)

This is hilarious. I think the CAG guys should get a pat on the back for punk-ing the blogosphere.

BUT -- I have a question. Kotaku's been okay on GAF for how long? But J--stiq, which didn't run the story, is still banned? Sounds fair to me.

purple cobra · (09-19-2008, 04:06 PM)

Originally Posted by jooey:

I think it's one of the changelings.

:lol You said that and I thought of...

VOOK · (09-19-2008, 04:07 PM)

Originally Posted by SnowWolf:

I was JUST listening to this episode yesterday. I kinda scoffed, thinking it was a funny contest idea, but that the blogs wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for any of the entries. Boy was I proven wrong :lol

CheapyD was dead-on. These blogs will publish the stupidest rumors to satisfy their quota. All they have to do is protect themselves with a "?" at the end of the blog entry title.

Or they just report it with a RUMOUR: at the start.

It's when you get to the end of the month that you see the crazier rumours and more bullshit stories, gotta get those Unique visitors.

Opiate · (09-19-2008, 04:14 PM)

Originally Posted by fanduck:

Did anybody mention yet what a stupid thing this was to have a contest about? Since blogs like Kotaku drive traffic to your site, you reward them by making them look like morons for doing so? Way to go!

Had you considered the possibility that CAG is motivated by a desire to adhere to facts and viable information, and not by web hits? That they're more concerned with information than popularity?

I'm sure the sales agers here at NeoGAF could become much better known if they collaborated with VGC: it's a very popular site that's been quoted in major newspapers. Forget Kotaku -- VGC has been in Reuters and the New York Times. So why don't they do that?

Nemo · (09-19-2008, 04:16 PM)

I love the way every blog tries to defend themselves by blaming CAG's credibility.

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InterMoniker · (09-19-2008, 04:19 PM)

ha there's another thread on this too.

eznark · (09-19-2008, 04:19 PM)

Originally Posted by Teetris:

I love the way every blog tries to defend themselves by blaming CAG's credibility.

Clearly CAG should fact check every single message board post.

PistolGrip · (09-19-2008, 04:20 PM)

Wait so Kotaku thinks Forum post with no prove are a reliable source for news. No Forum no matter how good a forum is reliable unless is coming from a known poster with good history.

What a load of bs.

drohne · (09-19-2008, 04:20 PM)

THE ROCKY HORROR NEWS MOUNTAIN!

Tathanen · (09-19-2008, 04:20 PM)

Originally Posted by Dark Octave:

Who the fuck says "what the shit"?

oh

well

I guess it's me

DMczaf · (09-19-2008, 04:21 PM)

Quote:

UPDATE: It appears that this rumor story could be CAG throwing their credibility out the window as part of a contest.

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guidop · (09-19-2008, 04:21 PM)

Originally Posted by maxax:

:lol
Also this needs to be in every thread about Kotaku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZKoTfY84sU

:lol

AndresON777 · (09-19-2008, 04:22 PM)

Originally Posted by plagiarize:

i get why other people read the site, but not why gaffers do. most stuff we either have here first, or seconds after they do.

Hell they get all their news from GAF, everytime I go there it says 'gaf member' @ Neo Gaf as the source...that dude is probably reading this thread right now

mysticstylez · (09-19-2008, 04:23 PM)

So Kotaku decides to run a story based off of a forum post, and they don't do any research into the story, then once they find out it's fake, they bash the credibility of the person they go the info from?

Thats like if I was writing for the NY Times, and a bum comes up to me on the street and says the world is gonna end tomorrow, then the next day I trash his credibility cause he was wrong.

Zophar · (09-19-2008, 04:24 PM)

Originally Posted by mysticstylez:

Thats like if I was writing for the NY Times, and a bum comes up to me on the street and says the world is gonna end tomorrow, then the next day I trash his credibility cause he was wrong.

That bum deserved it.

stuminus3 · (09-19-2008, 04:24 PM)

It's OK, Kotaku have changed their target demographic to "14 year old GameFAQs users" in the last year or so, so they'll be alright.

mintylurb · (09-19-2008, 04:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Firewire:

Watch out! The Gaf spelling police can be brutal!

Indeed. Firewire got slapped around pretty badly!