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Peltz · Nov 18, 2014

So, I've never actually used a Neo Geo AES controller, and my only experience with Neo Geo was via happ controls (gross) on a real American MVS arcade cabinet.

I'm curious as to the stick, itself: what am I in for? What modern stick does the OG AES stick feel like? I assume it's probably different from a Sanwa JLF that I've gotten used to over the past few years... but that's probably a good thing, because the JLF is a bit loose for my tastes.

MezzoForte · Nov 18, 2014

Peltz said:
my only experience with Neo Geo was via happ controls (gross)

don't hate.

Mercutio · Nov 18, 2014

Peltz said:
So, I've never actually used a Neo Geo AES controller, and my only experience with Neo Geo was via happ controls (gross) on a real American MVS arcade cabinet.

I'm curious as to the stick, itself: what am I in for? What modern stick does the OG AES stick feel like? I assume it's probably different from a Sanwa JLF that I've gotten used to over the past few years... but that's probably a good thing, because the JLF is a bit loose for my tastes.

I believe the AES stick is a Seimitsu with a short base. It feels quite good, actually.

Peltz · Nov 18, 2014

MezzoForte said:
don't hate.

Lol... sorry...

jbueno · Nov 19, 2014

Mercutio said:
I believe the AES stick is a Seimitsu with a short base. It feels quite good, actually.

It´s sexy as hell too.

Peltz · Nov 19, 2014

jbueno said:
It´s sexy as hell too.

Holy shit that looks so good. I cannot wait for my Neo Geo. Guys... I had a dream I was playing it last night.

But who actually holds their arcade stick that way? I'd probably get my ass beaten using just my index finger and thumb like that. It just looks too imprecise even for the floppiest of Sanwa JLF sticks.

EDIT: Xian Xi, aka James just confirmed that he shipped my CMVS. It's in transit as of today.

Me:

Edit: man this thread is super slow... I finally got me OG Neo Geo AES controller. I still don't have my CMVS (any day now) but I see why people say the stick is glorious and the buttons suck.... the stick has the perfect sized gate as far as I'm concerned. It feels so good. I can't wait to play an actual game with it. On the other hand, the buttons are so darn noisy and jiggly.

I'm also pretty shocked by how the controller's weight. It's so darn light!

sixteen-bit · Nov 26, 2014

anybody cop Razion? Is is decent?

baphomet · Nov 26, 2014

Honestly it looks kinda bad. But I enjoy some of their other games so you never know.

retrogamer84 · Nov 26, 2014

Here are some pictures of my new CMVS and controller. JNX did an excellent job and it has been a blast to play so far. One big collecting goal has finally happened, and I cannot wait to add more to my MVS collection.

Mercutio · Nov 26, 2014

Peltz said:
Edit: man this thread is super slow... I finally got me OG Neo Geo AES controller. I still don't have my CMVS (any day now) but I see why people say the stick is glorious and the buttons suck.... the stick has the perfect sized gate as far as I'm concerned. It feels so good. I can't wait to play an actual game with it. On the other hand, the buttons are so darn noisy and jiggly.

I'm also pretty shocked by how the controller's weight. It's so darn light!

Ergonomically I love that stick. The slight slope down from the buttons / stick is incredibly comfortable, sitting with it on your lap or with it on a table. Great design, IMO. I also love the button splay.

But yeah, now you see the buttons. They absolutely blow. I don't even think they're properly sized for the holes; mine did nothing but squeak before I ripped them out.

Peltz · Nov 26, 2014

Mercutio said:
Ergonomically I love that stick. The slight slope down from the buttons / stick is incredibly comfortable, sitting with it on your lap or with it on a table. Great design, IMO. I also love the button splay.

But yeah, now you see the buttons. They absolutely blow. I don't even think they're properly sized for the holes; mine did nothing but squeak before I ripped them out.

I've got no squeaking on the one that has come in... it's clear that someone took good care of it. The ball on the joystick isn't even cracked (although it wouldn't surprise me if it were a replacement ball).

Still waiting on my CMVS and second controller though. When I have it, I'll probably PM you for mod jobs.

I may buy a third crappy controller so I have something to use during the mod process.

It's weird to me that the buttons don't even have sleeves... they just jiggle inside the controller's chassis.

Edit: retrogamer84, I'm about to get mine as well.

I see James gave you some sexy sanwa buttons. How do you like that controller?

Mercutio · Nov 26, 2014

Peltz said:
I've got no squeaking on the one that has come in... it's clear that someone took good care of it. The ball on the joystick isn't even cracked (although it wouldn't surprise me if it were a replacement ball).

Still waiting on my CMVS and second controller though. When I have it, I'll probably PM you for mod jobs.

I may buy a third crappy controller so I have something to use during the mod process.

It's weird to me that the buttons don't even have sleeves... they just jiggle inside the controller's chassis.

At that time, it was a rarity to even have a good stick in a home controller! I think only one or two other sticks did in the 90s, not including the glorious HSS-0130. Hell, even the HSS-0130 stock has crap buttons.

I've seen SNES controllers modified for Neo Geo before... might be good to check one of those out as a stopgap while yours is getting fancified?

Peltz · Nov 26, 2014

Mercutio said:
At that time, it was a rarity to even have a good stick in a home controller! I think only one or two other sticks did in the 90s, not including the glorious HSS-0130. Hell, even the HSS-0130 stock has crap buttons.

I've seen SNES controllers modified for Neo Geo before... might be good to check one of those out as a stopgap while yours is getting fancified?

I'd rather grab the Neo Geo CD controller if possible. Although I'll rarely use it, it could be good to have as an alternate control method in certain types of less action oriented games.

Mercutio · Nov 26, 2014

Peltz said:
I'd rather grab the Neo Geo CD controller if possible. Although I'll rarely use it, it could be good to have as an alternate control method in certain types of less action oriented games.

The only bummer about the Neo Geo CD pad is that they're going up in price, and the D-Stick-Pad thing is prone to breakage. It's also often impossible to fix, which is heartbreaking given how great it is.

Here's some info on it:
http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/neopadfix.htm

Peltz · Nov 26, 2014

Mercutio said:
The only bummer about the Neo Geo CD pad is that they're going up in price, and the D-Stick-Pad thing is prone to breakage. It's also often impossible to fix, which is heartbreaking given how great it is.

Here's some info on it:
http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/neopadfix.htm

Gah... maybe I'll just send you one at a time? Would that be annoying?

Mercutio · Nov 26, 2014

Peltz said:
Gah... maybe I'll just send you one at a time? Would that be annoying?

Not a problem for me! I don't mind doing them singularly.

MezzoForte · Nov 26, 2014

I always wanted a Neo Geo Pad 2. IIRC, the construction was much improved and of course there are six action buttons. Same thing for the Neo Geo Stick line for the PS2. Very classy looking.

RoryDropkick · Nov 26, 2014

Just got a text from my friend, apparently Blazing Star was intended as a Pulstar sequel. Someone went into the coding and found an alternate name, "Pulstar Blast".

Peltz · Nov 26, 2014

Mercutio said:
Not a problem for me! I don't mind doing them singularly.

Mercutio · Nov 26, 2014

Peltz said:

Well, I mean, it's just gonna cost you a few extra bucks in shipping, doing them one at a time! No skin off my nose.

retrogamer84 · Nov 26, 2014

Peltz said:
Edit: retrogamer84, I'm about to get mine as well. I see James gave you some sexy sanwa buttons. How do you like that controller?

I love it! The joystick is so fluid and precise that I can easily pull off moves that I was struggling with my 360 controller. The buttons are great also, but it is the joystick that shines for me. Fighting games have never been so fun.

sixteen-bit · Nov 26, 2014

MezzoForte said:
I always wanted a Neo Geo Pad 2. IIRC, the construction was much improved and of course there are six action buttons. Same thing for the Neo Geo Stick line for the PS2. Very classy looking.

I have the PS3/USB one

Peltz · Nov 26, 2014

sixteen-bit said:
anybody cop Razion? Is is decent?

I'd say it's a hyper shooting game.

MezzoForte · Nov 26, 2014

sixteen-bit said:
I have the PS3/USB one

how's the build quality on it? I was always under the impression that the USB version lacked heft, but I could be thinking of something else.

sixteen-bit · Nov 26, 2014

MezzoForte said:
how's the build quality on it? I was always under the impression that the USB version lacked heft, but I could be thinking of something else.

Compared to my OEM NGCD pad, you're right. It's a bit lighter. The directional mech is a lot more responsive though, as my NGCD has worn down of the years. It's still great controller.

bellez · Nov 27, 2014

Here's a pic of Knight's Chance AES Japanese version.
It's an indie game created by Neobitz and recently released. Got my copy yesterday

And a size comparation with a PS3 game. I suppose part of the appeal of a Neo Geo game comes from those big carts and boxes!

baphomet · Nov 30, 2014

Got me a copy of Windjammers MVS for $90 shipped today. Needs a repro label because its kinda beat, but it's a permanent member of my collection from now on.

Can't wait to play it!

sixteen-bit · Nov 30, 2014

baphomet said:
Got me a copy of Windjammers MVS for $90 shipped today. Needs a repro label because its kinda beat, but it's a permanent member of my collection from now on.

Can't wait to play it!

Congrats! Great game. I'm still slumming it up with the CD version.

baphomet · Nov 30, 2014

sixteen-bit said:
Congrats! Great game. I'm still slumming it up with the CD version.

Yea it was actually my favorite neo Geo game growing up. Its cool its finally got some recognition recently (even if it doubled the price).

Odd thing, when I went to Middle Tennessee State back in 02 I went to a game store that had a candy cabinet with windjammers in it. To this day its the only candy cab I've ever seen in person.

Peltz · Nov 30, 2014

baphomet said:
Yea it was actually my favorite neo Geo game growing up. Its cool its finally got some recognition recently (even if it doubled the price).

Odd thing, when I went to Middle Tennessee State back in 02 I went to a game store that had a candy cabinet with windjammers in it. To this day its the only candy cab I've ever seen in person.

You've seen exactly 100% more Candy cabs than me so cherish that memory.

Guys, this happened:

My day today in a nutshell:

The Future Is Now

sixteen-bit · Nov 30, 2014

Peltz said:
You've seen exactly 100% more Candy cabs than me so cherish that memory.

You've seen half a cab?

Peltz · Nov 30, 2014

sixteen-bit said:
You've seen half a cab?

Lawyered

Teknoman · Dec 1, 2014

Peltz said:
My day today in a nutshell:

baphomet · Dec 6, 2014

I sold my consolized MVS a few weeks back and decided to go with just a MVS board and supergun setup since it works better for me. I thought I was getting an MV1A but ended up getting an MV1AX which means a soldered bios instead of a socketed one. Not a big deal, but basically means what should have taken 20 seconds took an hour or so. Shouldn't complain though, the guy I bought it from went out of his way to get me a super clean board and it looks great.

Before

After

Can't wait for my copy of Windjammers to show up. Oddly enough I just got a message on Facebook from my roommate at MTSU saying he moved back to Colorado and wanted to play some Windjammers. He was the one who played it with me on the candy cab in that game store.

Celine · Jan 24, 2015

Photo of my whole Neo Geo CD collection (minus the AES arcade stick):

MezzoForte · Jan 26, 2015

Celine said:
Photo of my whole Neo Geo CD collection (minus the AES arcade stick)

very nice. Dat corner tho. Fill it up with some KoF '98.

Celine · Jan 26, 2015

MezzoForte said:
very nice. Dat corner tho. Fill it up with some KoF '98.

ah ah right, would have been better to do three rows.

No more fighting VS games for me (it's the achilles heel of the NGCD ironically).

IrishNinja · Jan 26, 2015

Peltz said:
Prettiest consolized Neo Geo MVS ever?

holy hell am i late but this is so gorgeous

Vinegar Joe · Feb 2, 2015

Does anyone have any experience with Neomini boxes?

I kinda want to spruce up my MVS collection a bit and Shockboxes cost far too much, so these seem like a good alternative. They take up less space too which is a plus.

I have around 50 games though, so it does end up costing around 140 euro shipped which isn't exactly impulse buy territory.

Also just bought Top Hunter and Shock Troopers 2nd Squad. Had no plans to buy either but they were just so tempting...plus I already have the original Shock Troopers (great game) so I can console myself with that when I realise that 2nd Squad sucks.

Bar81 · Feb 2, 2015

Vinegar Joe said:
Does anyone have any experience with Neomini boxes?

I kinda want to spruce up my MVS collection a bit and Shockboxes cost far too much, so these seem like a good alternative. They take up less space too which is a plus.

I have around 50 games though, so it does end up costing around 140 euro shipped which isn't exactly impulse buy territory.

They are really nice - they have a real nice gloss finish and are much sturdier than I would have thought before receiving them. The compact size and choice of JP or US labels is a nice bonus.

Vinegar Joe · Feb 3, 2015

Thanks, I think I will invest in them at some point since they're really not that expensive at around £2 each shipped.

Just got to figure out what games I actually own, since half are Japanese and I can't read the labels.

mikespit1200 · Feb 9, 2015

Do we have any Gaffers who do CMVS mods?

StarCreator · Feb 9, 2015

Vinegar Joe said:
Thanks, I think I will invest in them at some point since they're really not that expensive at around £2 each shipped.

Just got to figure out what games I actually own, since half are Japanese and I can't read the labels.

I'm sure plenty of people here could help with that if you post a photo.

Vinegar Joe · Feb 12, 2015

OK, so 2nd Squad is actually not that bad. It's just...disappointing in comparison to the original. If it wasn't a direct sequel to Shock Troopers I think it would have a better reputation.

It is a special brand of ugly though. The pre-rendered assets have aged badly and visually the whole thing is an incoherent mess.

StarCreator said:
I'm sure plenty of people here could help with that if you post a photo.

Thanks, kinda fun to stick them in my cab and see what happens though.

Totally forgot I had Magical Drop 2 for instance. Good job I didn't buy it the other day when I saw a copy on Ebay! Also helped remind me just how much I suck at that game.

Teknoman · Feb 12, 2015

Do they have a version with art on the front as well? I'd probably like one for Metal Slug 2.

EDIT: Co-sign on 2nd Squad being disappointed compared to the first. I cant even imagine what they were thinking.

Vinegar Joe · Feb 12, 2015

Teknoman said:
Do they have a version with art on the front as well? I'd probably like one for Metal Slug 2.

EDIT: Co-sign on 2nd Squad being disappointed compared to the first. I cant even imagine what they were thinking.

Neominiboxes? Don't think so - just the spine. I guess considering they're only ~£3 a pop the printing costs would have been too high. You could always try and print a cover yourself; I think some people have done that in the past.

Ban Puncher · Feb 19, 2015

Every time I turn around prices are up and there are more bootlegs.

The AES hustle is a hard life.

MMaRsu · Feb 19, 2015

Been playing a bunch of Windjammers and The Last Blade 2 lately. Whats the machine the Giantbomb crew uses?

Ban Puncher · Feb 19, 2015

MMaRsu said:
Been playing a bunch of Windjammers and The Last Blade 2 lately. Whats the machine the Giantbomb crew uses?

An Omega.

I need to get Windjammers matches going with friends again.

MezzoForte · Feb 19, 2015

what kinda monitors does NEO-GAF use on their setups?

PVM-2530 here. Actually I have 5 of them lol, though on one the picture is barely hanging on. I've been putting this off for forever but I really want to figure out the dual monitor thing. My friends and I love to get down on some KoF and for the longest time I've wanted to play it H2H. I know for most arcade boards the raw video signal can be split clean without being amplified. I'm guessing the same can be done out of the Omega RGB?

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