Eve Online drama: Goonswarm alledgely disbands Band of Brothers and steals their shit - Page 2

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 05:56 PM)

Originally Posted by gofreak:

I fucking love this stuff though. People packing crap up to limit damage..funny.. (well, from the outside!)

How serious it can get.

Seriously, losing anything in EVE can be a massive pain in the ass if you're hit out of nowhere. What's happened to BoB? Absolutely devastating. I could see the game losing accounts - a lot of them - on account of it.

CharlieDigital · (02-05-2009, 05:59 PM)

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox:

JayDub should marshal all the libertopes on GAF into an EVE corp and blog their experience.

I'd read it.

MrPing1000 · (02-05-2009, 06:01 PM)

As much as I hate goons for messing up pretty much every server they play on, this is a pretty epic move

Haven't played eve in 6months but I understand how big a deal this is.

EmCeeGramr · (02-05-2009, 06:02 PM)

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox:

JayDub should marshal all the libertopes on GAF into an EVE corp and blog their experience.

"Ah, finally an experience with the free market."

*is instantly killed*

"I just didn't work hard enough!"

Osaka · (02-05-2009, 06:06 PM)

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr:

"Ah, finally an experience with the free market."

*is instantly killed*

"I just didn't work hard enough!"

Good work, sir

MickeyKnox · (02-05-2009, 06:08 PM)

Originally Posted by CharlieDigital:

I'd read it.

So would I, make an official thread and keep it updated, no matter what there's bound to be tons of great stories that come out of it.

DOOOOOOOO IT!

saelz8 · (02-05-2009, 06:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Vinci:

How serious it can get.

Seriously, losing anything in EVE can be a massive pain in the ass if you're hit out of nowhere. What's happened to BoB? Absolutely devastating. I could see the game losing accounts - a lot of them - on account of it.

Hahaha! That's funny stuff.

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 06:09 PM)

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr:

"Ah, finally an experience with the free market."

*is instantly killed*

"I just didn't work hard enough!"

If anything, EVE is a good example of the free market. If you make stupid decisions, you pay for it more often than not; if you're careful and responsible? You'll do okay.

DEO3 · 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox:

JayDub should marshal all the libertopes on GAF into an EVE corp and blog their experience.

We tried this actually, after destroying V and LV and the Southern Coalition we had way more space then we knew what to do with, so our leader at the time, Remedial, who was a huge lolbertarian, decided to use this as a perfect way to prove his free market ideology. He declared all of our space a Free Market Zone, and anyone from empire could come down and use it. The idea was we'd be like Empire 2.0, with a bunch of pubbies running around and mining our ore, building shit, and supplying our stations with goods and whatnot.

It was an epic failure.

Then Remedial quit the game, and goons posted pictures of his small penis all over the internet.

Revengeance · (02-05-2009, 06:13 PM)

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr:

"Ah, finally an experience with the free market."

*is instantly killed*

"I just didn't work hard enough!"

idahoblue · 06:24 PM

So one guy disbanded a massive group because he was upset about petty shit? Wow.

Edit: And where the hell did this tag come from?

CharlieDigital · (02-05-2009, 06:28 PM)

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr:

"Ah, finally an experience with the free market."

*is instantly killed*

"I just didn't work hard enough!"

This made me laugh.

A lot

Originally Posted by DEO3:

We tried this actually, after destroying V and LV and the Southern Coalition we had way more space then we knew what to do with, so our leader at the time, Remedial, who was a huge lolbertarian, decided to use this as a perfect way to prove his free market ideology. He declared all of our space a Free Market Zone, and anyone from empire could come down and use it. The idea was we'd be like Empire 2.0, with a bunch of pubbies running around and mining our ore, building shit, and supplying our stations with goods and whatnot.

It was an epic failure.

Then Remedial quit the game, and goons posted pictures of his small penis all over the internet.

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox:

So would I, make an official thread and keep it updated, no matter what there's bound to be tons of great stories that come out of it.

DOOOOOOOO IT!

DO IT JAY, DO IT!!

syllogism · (02-05-2009, 06:29 PM)

Before
After

poof

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 06:31 PM)

Originally Posted by syllogism:

Before
After

poof

WOW. Even though I understand it, I'm still not completely wrapping my head around this.

Peronthious · (02-05-2009, 06:35 PM)

Yea, I saw this earlier this morning a few hours after the news broke. Wow...just wow. One of the biggest feuds in any MMO, ever, over and gone because of one person, dragging what amounts to tens of thousands of real world dollars with him. So damn amazing.

EmCeeGramr · (02-05-2009, 06:35 PM)

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...channelID=3521

Holy shit, the threads.

Firestorm · (02-05-2009, 06:38 PM)

I wish I played EVE. This is amazing sounding.

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 06:42 PM)

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr:

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...channelID=3521

Holy shit, the threads.

In all honesty, this -

Quote:

nobody has ever been owned this much in a video game, in the history of video games -- NOBODY

- might very well be true.

Talas · (02-05-2009, 06:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Firestorm:

I wish I played EVE. This is amazing sounding.

Eve is amazing at the political and economic level, not so much in the other ones, sadly.

But if you can get past the first levels of boredom and learning, and met the right people, is fun as hell.

speedpop · (02-05-2009, 06:46 PM)

The before and after pics are intense.

jman2050 · (02-05-2009, 06:47 PM)

I tried EVE once and got bored out of my mind, but shit like this makes an excellent case for the game.

Just complete ownage all around.

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 06:47 PM)

Originally Posted by jman2050:

I tried EVE once and got bored out of my mind, but shit like this makes an excellent case for the game.

What did you do while playing the game?

JayDubya · (02-05-2009, 06:48 PM)

Originally Posted by CharlieDigital:

DO IT JAY, DO IT!!

Pay my subscription fee and sure. :P

Otherwise, no way I'd try to get in on any sort of MMO after it's been around more than a few months.

Dash · (02-05-2009, 06:48 PM)

Ack, SA discussion on GAF! Worlds colliding, damnit!

Revengeance · (02-05-2009, 06:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Dash:

Ack, SA discussion on GAF! Worlds colliding, damnit!

Oh God, Worlds Collide. That mission destroyed my shiny new ship and set me back like 3 days. :( Guess I learned the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" lesson the hard way.

Micromegas · (02-05-2009, 06:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Revengeance:

Read this last night, and holy shit. I think there's something wrong with the corporate form in EVE when one director can so utterly screw over an entire alliance.

Too much like real-life for you?

Azih · (02-05-2009, 07:02 PM)

Originally Posted by DEO3:

We tried this actually, after destroying V and LV and the Southern Coalition we had way more space then we knew what to do with, so our leader at the time, Remedial, who was a huge lolbertarian, decided to use this as a perfect way to prove his free market ideology. He declared all of our space a Free Market Zone, and anyone from empire could come down and use it. The idea was we'd be like Empire 2.0, with a bunch of pubbies running around and mining our ore, building shit, and supplying our stations with goods and whatnot.

It was an epic failure.

Then Remedial quit the game, and goons posted pictures of his small penis all over the internet.

Details? or link to thread with details?

Peronthious · (02-05-2009, 07:03 PM)

Originally Posted by jman2050:

I tried EVE once and got bored out of my mind, but shit like this makes an excellent case for the game.

Just complete ownage all around.

I played for a couple months, got involved in a corp, and could see how exciting and fun it could get...after a while. In the short term I could have tried to get involved in some PvP, but none of was too attractive to me, so most of what I was doing was ratting (killing NPCs and salvaging/looting), mining, and doing missions, most of which were either courier or "Kill X thing". If I had stuck it out for another few months, I probably would have built up the skills to get involved in some strip mining, and in the extreme long term I would have liked to get into more of the leadership aspect, but for all of the time investment required it didn't seem worth it. A good game in its own right, but it requires so much time to get anywhere.

Revengeance · (02-05-2009, 07:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Micromegas:

Too much like real-life for you?

In real life, no one person on a board of directors can do anything - they operate by majority vote, and require a quorum to even meet. In real life, taking corporate secrets or assets by directors or executives is a crime, and can be met with criminal charges and civil liability.

I'm saying that at least some of the safeguards of real life should be adopted in game, because what they have is clearly inadequate.

edit: Of course, BoB's leadership should have known that they were open to this sort of attack, and taken greater care in selecting and tending to their directors.

Valru · (02-05-2009, 07:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Revengeance:

Oh God, Worlds Collide. That mission destroyed my shiny new ship and set me back like 3 days. :( Guess I learned the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" lesson the hard way.

CAREBEAR!
fuck 0.0 warfare come by the Huola area and I'll show you some real pvp, piracy. :)

Zenith · (02-05-2009, 07:08 PM)

Originally Posted by idahoblue:

So one guy disbanded a massive group because he was upset about petty shit? Wow.

Edit: And where the hell did this tag come from?

Don't feel sorry for them. BoB were the worst, getting inside help from the company that made the game.

Quote:

It was an epic failure.

More details plz.

Revengeance · (02-05-2009, 07:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Valru:

CAREBEAR!
fuck 0.0 warfare come by the Huola area and I'll show you some real pvp, piracy. :)

lol it was my third day. I barely knew how to get around

. Now I'm in my 7th day, and I can fight the NPC's a little better, but I still probably couldn't figure out the world map to get to Huola

CharlieDigital · (02-05-2009, 07:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Revengeance:

In real life, no one person on a board of directors can do anything - they operate by majority vote, and require a quorum to even meet.

Bernie Madoff?

Jamesfrom818 · (02-05-2009, 07:11 PM)

Eve is awesome. I really enjoyed my free trial but I just don't have the time for it or any MMO.

firehawk12 · (02-05-2009, 07:12 PM)

Hah, they've been going crazy about EVE on the GiantBomb podcast.

Shit like this is cool, and it's what an MMO should be. It's just too bad that the average player will never be able to experience this stuff first hand.

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 07:14 PM)

Originally Posted by firehawk12:

Hah, they've been going crazy about EVE on the GiantBomb podcast.

Shit like this is cool, and it's what an MMO should be. It's just too bad that the average player will never be able to experience this stuff first hand.

Personally, I just enjoyed running around and watching. Talking to folks. Hearing about all this craziness, watching big battles when they were happening. It was fun. Like being some war correspondent.

idahoblue · (02-05-2009, 07:17 PM)

Originally Posted by Zenith:

Don't feel sorry for them. BoB were the worst, getting inside help from the company that made the game.

Really? Well, still seems like a pretty odd way to structure your game. Oh well, all's fair I guess.

gofreak · (02-05-2009, 07:17 PM)

So do other alliances have free pickings on territory that was previously BoB?

Do they fight over it?

Is Skunk Works former BoB?

Sorry if silly questions..I tried getting into EvE a couple of times, but never got up to this higher level stuff.

Revengeance · (02-05-2009, 07:22 PM)

Originally Posted by CharlieDigital:

Bernie Madoff?

I'm not saying shit never goes bad. But when it does, there are consequences to be had by the people who get caught. Madoff is facing criminal charges, and doubtless will face countless civil charges as well.

And besides, Madoff didn't make off with billions and disappear. He was perpetrating an ongoing fraud that eventually collapsed around him.

Duke Togo · (02-05-2009, 07:29 PM)

Wow, what a turn of events. It sure makes my mining existence in EVE seem even more insignificant.

FoxSpirit · (02-05-2009, 07:30 PM)

May I just ask for the pure number of memeber of (evil) huge corporation #1 now?
And they are technically THE evil, if they are the SA crew :-P

firehawk12 · (02-05-2009, 07:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Vinci:

Personally, I just enjoyed running around and watching. Talking to folks. Hearing about all this craziness, watching big battles when they were happening. It was fun. Like being some war correspondent.

Now honestly, that would be a cool "job" to do - be an EVE Reporter. Still, I imagine you'd have to be powerful enough to have the contacts and not be blown up.

Even a report on the before/after maps would be awesome. It'd be like the equivalent of a CNN reporter talking about how Iraq could be divided into three autonomous regions or something.

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 07:39 PM)

Originally Posted by firehawk12:

Now honestly, that would be a cool "job" to do - be an EVE Reporter. Still, I imagine you'd have to be powerful enough to have the contacts and not be blown up.

Even a report on the before/after maps would be awesome. It'd be like the equivalent of a CNN reporter talking about how Iraq could be divided into three autonomous regions or something.

There are actually people who do this, and I'm sure there will be many wannabes besides trying to after this huge occasion and how crazy the aftermath is going to be.

ZealousD · (02-05-2009, 07:42 PM)

Originally Posted by DEO3:

tl;dr BoB director guy had an alt in a Goonswarm corp (IGNE), and found that he liked Goons better because BoB never said hello to him when he joined or something.

So for a real-world metaphor, it would have been like if Gorbachev disbanded the Soviet Union because he had a second life in America and people were nicer there!

DEO3 · (02-05-2009, 08:17 PM)

It's going to be a fun couple of weeks.

Talas · (02-05-2009, 08:17 PM)

Originally Posted by Vinci:

There are actually people who do this, and I'm sure there will be many wannabes besides trying to after this huge occasion and how crazy the aftermath is going to be.

Yeah, they fly some cool indestructible frigates.

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 08:24 PM)

Originally Posted by DEO3:

It's going to be a fun couple of weeks.

Damn, I need to get back on in the next week or so. Stupid life interfering with my ability to watch others do cool shit.

saelz8 · (02-05-2009, 08:34 PM)

How are those territorial borders determined in EVE?

Vinci · (02-05-2009, 08:41 PM)

Originally Posted by saelz8:

How are those territorial borders determined in EVE?

By this. In other words, it's a little complicated and takes a LOT of work.

Xabora · (02-05-2009, 08:42 PM)

Heh, I was once a member of Goonsquad when I played EvE Online.
Dudes in there were crazy, but freaking awesome to hang out with.