Yeah I was thinking more in terms of Jan or Feb 2016 instead of E3 2016 as was what iirc the majority had speculated before.
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Yeah I was thinking more in terms of Jan or Feb 2016 instead of E3 2016 as was what iirc the majority had speculated before.
From the hints it shouId be powered by an AMD APU.
The WiiU will see some kind of UE4 support because Armature will port it with Bloodstained, a 2D game that also runs on the Vita and that will be out in 2017 iirc. If Square has a DQXI UE4 version for NX scheduled for 2016, it's probably a different thing (like, Epic themselves ported the engine for the hardware and anyone can already use it to make games on it).
We don't know for sure if that is the case though, as it's possible that it's the 3DS version improved for the next portable, or home, or both. Or the handheld will have the 3ds version and the home the ps4 one. We don't know
Mr. Pointy
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So the NX console should be getting a ~1TFlop GPU?
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Probably the PS4 version. Ill say it again why would square port X (10) to the NX if its a handheld ? Its already on 3DS and Vita has more than enough power and install base to have it. NX gonna be stronk yallÜbermatik;173195901 said:
Nintendo seems confident with their approach to the NX. DQXI is a huge win for them and if it is indeed the PS4 version it could open hem up to KH3 and other titles.
Wasn't NX confirmed to be a dedicated gaming console like a year ago when we saw how Nintendo planned their new account system?
Dagobert Duck
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January would be to early though. People buying a Wii U for christmas would get mad. So late February to End of March seems likely...E3 could be to late already
January I think. Launch might be early next year as well.
Interceptor
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What's making the UE4 version the main version? If anything this just confirms the NX will have 2 screens for me. ^^
Toadthemushroom
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Very unlikely, as Nintendo wants a clean break this generation from the previous two. 3DS was an evolution from DS, Wii U from Wii.
Also, the NX is getting Dragon Quest X as well, which the PS4 has been confirmed to be getting.
SCE is co-developing DQ10 for PS4. So, DQ10 for PS4 and NX will not be the same. I suspect that NX is simply backward compatible with 3DS, hence the announcement.
I'm inclined to agree... The fact it's announced for 3DS being the main reason I think this is a home release.
As for the stronk bit, well, we'll see... hopefully this points to UE4 support and PS4+ power.
Graphics Horse
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It's definitely hardware based, there could be a handheld version and console version released simultaneously for all we know.
...When some people expected a Vita version, I don't think their idea was a totally different game design like the one for 3DS.
Theanine3D
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The thing that never gets mentioned with regard to the Bloodstained UE4 port... They've promised to port UE4 to Wii U, but I haven't seen them state that they're actually going to maintain it afterwards. That would be extremely time-consuming, thankless, not to mention unpaid work, so I doubt they will.
Any other developer using their UE4 Wii U port is going to be stuck on whatever specific version of the engine that Bloodstained used. UE4 is constantly being improved and updated (for example, it was only just recently the engine got proper open-world support). It won't be long before the Wii U's UE4 is badly outdated and full of unaddressed bugs.
Hopefully the NX gets a proper, long-term UE4 support from Epic themselves. A one-time third-party port like Bloodstained's is a nice gesture of good will, but totally unreliable and unfeasible in the longterm.
NX will be E3 2016
Tizoc
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I assumed it'd be some sort of service ala Steam
I am of the notion that most consumers worldwide got a PS4 already or are getting a PS4 particularly for KH3 and other upcoming AAA tiles from S-E, etc.
I don't see how KH3 on the NX would help it in that scenario >_>;
Personally if the NX is not region locked, can run Wii games, lets you access all Ninty eShops (JP, US, etc.) and has an account system just like PS3 or PS4 then it gets my money.
Dat JP eShop VC library HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Interceptor
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Whats giving you the idea they want a clean break? Couldn't be further from the truth. The 3DS version will just be playable within the NX ecosystem (console and handheld) as they share their libraries. Nothing more from this news. Ecpect lots of Wii U games to be adapted too.
I assumed it'd be some sort of service ala Steam
I am of the notion that most consumers worldwide got a PS4 already or are getting a PS4 particularly for KH3 and other upcoming AAA tiles from S-E, etc.
I don't see how KH3 on the NX would help it in that scenario >_>;
Personally if the NX is not region locked, can run Wii games, lets you access all Ninty eShops (JP, US, etc.) and has an account system just like PS3 or PS4 then it gets my money.
Dat JP eShop VC library HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Its more about Nintendo being able to say they are no longer out of the picture and forced to support their system alone. Being able to multiplat on Japanese titles would be a big boost to them and companies like SE hav no problem with that idea.
nx < 1Tflop
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Why would there be two different DQX? Theres already 4 and theyre all the same, PC, Wii, WiiU, 3DS
Toadthemushroom
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Whats giving you the idea they want a clean break? Couldn't be further from the truth. The 3DS version will just be playable within the NX ecosystem (console and handheld) as they share their libraries. Nothing more from this news. Ecpect lots of Wii U games to be adapted too.
What's giving you the idea that Square Enix would port the 3DS version instead of the Unreal Engine 4 version? Any rational company wouldn't do that, it's against the interests of both Square, who are making a bespoke version for 3DS which wouldn't suit a new platform as well, and Nintendo, who want NX to be clearly differentiated from the last generation. Up-porting a 3DS game doesn't fulfil either of those aims.
It would be too costly for Nintendo to implement 3DS backwards compatibility next generation, and Nintendo plans on continuing to sell and produce 3DS games after NX launches. The transition from DS to 3DS was straightforward, one replaced the other. NX won't replace 3DS in the short term.
J
Jpop
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Just goes to show which people follow DQ.
My bet are the ones who know the difference between X and XI.
ArchedThunder
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And possibly revealed before that in 2016.
Same game yes, but graphically not the same. That's what I meant by they being different.
lol, read my last post. I was answering the question regarding the port, not the game. Obviously DQ10 is still gonna be DQ10.
1st Quarter of the year I expect the announcement for sure. Could be as early as January but closer March sounds right. Of course if a massive leak Happens Nintendo could be forced to respond early
Dagobert Duck
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Maybe the new President will be in place then so he can take care of that...thinking of which, it would have been awesome for Iwata to announce it and show it off, like the video he did "unpacking" a Wii U...
Q4 2016 release of NX with DQX as launch title. DQXI shortly after that.
If NX is a combination of portable+home console Pokémon Generation 7 release early 2017.
Maybe Kingdom Hearts 3 launch on NX/PS4/XBONE in mid 2017 assuming NX supports UE4 (I don't see why not).
I'm an optimistic person.
If NX is a combination of portable+home console Pokémon Generation 7 release early 2017.
Maybe Kingdom Hearts 3 launch on NX/PS4/XBONE in mid 2017 assuming NX supports UE4 (I don't see why not).
I'm an optimistic person.
DaSorcerer7
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How do you know this?
yea thinking GDC/ around then for the reveal then main showing at E3 with a proper press conference.
Interceptor
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The catch of NX is to have both libraries treatet as main releases. Why downport a PS4 version (it won't be at 1,7 tflops, it will be cheap as hell) when you can just take the handheld version. Handheld or home console make no difference on NX.
Yup, exactly.
Hopefully, they'll have a dedicated event in february/march, like Sony did with the PS4.
Unless he'a a very reliable insider, he really doesn't, like the rest of us.
Dagobert Duck
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NX possibily being a family of hardware under the same OS/architecture could mean many things in regard of DQXI ... it could be a handheld with BC to 3DS, or really getting its own version ... or a console on PS4 like level that allows easy porting.
Gonna be one interesting reveal, at least.
Gonna be one interesting reveal, at least.
I don't think they can pump out a Splatoon sequel that quick.
Speculation: NX being portable+home console (you plug/connect the portable in a dock or wireless to get more power and play either on the portable screen or tv). NX could have both DQXI versions (3DS and PS4).
Mihael Mello Keehl
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a port with added stuff to have an awesome FPS at launch
Splatoon is third person.
Interceptor
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*bangs head on desk*
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