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Election 2016 [Mafia] | Everlasting GOPstoppers
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Lone_Prodigy
Member
This is such a bandwagon move.
CornBurrito
Member
Are there any other options exactly? The votes were pretty much split between you and BSP. And I'm fairly confident in my hypothesis about how BSP will play out. Which pretty much leaves only you. Or a no-vote.
CornBurrito
Member
I actually urge people who want to do this sort of thing to post them during the current day. How exactly are you so certain you'll be alive tomorrow to post those thoughts? It is almost always better to do them sooner rather than later.
Oh no, I meant tomorrow as in, real-life tomorrow. I don't have the time right now.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Yeah, but we've still got time and you don't vote without reason.
CornBurrito
Member
My reasons are simple:
1. I don't town read you, and in fact have reason to scum read you. For reasons others have pointed out.
2. The vote when I voted was 4-3 I believe. I fully believe a vote for BSP today would be a waste. She has a significantly less chance of being the lynch target for today if the score is 5-3. Voting for someone else does nothing to widen that gap.
Woah... If I was supposed to get all that from a picture of building blocks then I wasn't ready for this game
CornBurrito
Member
Blocks = Block = Role Block.
I expected people to work it out from there. But I may just be overgeneralizing my thought process. I just know what I would have done as a role blocker and went from there.
Well yeah I see the link now I know it but like Woah man
Lone_Prodigy
Member
VOTE: bananaspaceprincess
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Just wanted to say something else regarding being a replacement. I previously said I'm a day behind, and it's true. I missed out on interactions, initial vote slinging, activity prodding, bandwagons, soft role claims, walls of fluff, metagaming.
So I'm trying to establish myself here, figure out where everyone is at, but all under a cloud of suspicion because of the person I replaced. This means I am forced to play defensively right from the start, with no chance to build any goodwill or have an opinion worth listening to. Am I less active than other people? Sure, but like I said I'm trying to catch up and not step on any toes while trying to contribute at the same time.
Yes, you can call me out for being inactive, but how can I defend myself? I can't say "look at my posts and voting history yesterday" because I wasn't playing. We are all shooting in the dark, down 3 town with little information to go on.
Anyway, that's why I voted BSP, because a potential SK is dangerous to keep alive, roleblock or no roleblock.
So I'm trying to establish myself here, figure out where everyone is at, but all under a cloud of suspicion because of the person I replaced. This means I am forced to play defensively right from the start, with no chance to build any goodwill or have an opinion worth listening to. Am I less active than other people? Sure, but like I said I'm trying to catch up and not step on any toes while trying to contribute at the same time.
Yes, you can call me out for being inactive, but how can I defend myself? I can't say "look at my posts and voting history yesterday" because I wasn't playing. We are all shooting in the dark, down 3 town with little information to go on.
Anyway, that's why I voted BSP, because a potential SK is dangerous to keep alive, roleblock or no roleblock.
CornBurrito
Member
Goddammit...
Unvote
I'm going to mull over this during the night (real life night, it is almost my bed time). I'm telling you right now that there's almost no way I'm voting for BSP. I feel safe with all my assumptions made regarding her.
My vote will likely go back to you if I can't think of any better choice. But I think you deserve a fighting chance.
I will judge you harshly. Choose well.
Choose right!
Bananaspaceprincess
Neo Member
It feels like I did nothing but defend myself all day so now I will just cover the the things I haven't commented on yet.
First of all. I am not the SK! I already said, that just for the sake of logic, not being able to vote in a game that lives from participation AND the ability to vote puts a huge target on my back right from the beginning. I guess that the characteristics of a SK is to blend in easily and not running around looking suspicious from the start. I am pretty sure the real SK, if there's actually one and it's not just a town aligned cop or somethung, is laughing his ass off right now so don't just put this role on me assuming I am the only one not clearly aligned with one of the parties.
Also someone mentioned I should have RC first thing in the game. I can't find the post right now but it was sometime before El Topos shenanigans.
Looking back at D1 and on how we were running through the dark picking on everything that seemed even the tiniest bit suspicious, I disagree.
It might have given town the first reasonable lynch but I simply did not want to leave the game on my first day. And seeing what happened to KK I guess it was the right decision atm.
Also I got to add that me not being able to vote was out in the open from the moment I placed my first vote, just nobody noticed it. Ouro never counted my first vote on KK and never wrote down my name in any of his lists until D2.
Now to my alliance. My Role PM says I am aligned with no one until my already mentioned conditions are fulfilled. The word "neutral" is never mentioned and I have been wondering if that is just flavor-ism or if there actually is someone else in the game were the actual term, neutral, was used.
As it is for now I can do nothing but wait and see how the day will continue.
First of all. I am not the SK! I already said, that just for the sake of logic, not being able to vote in a game that lives from participation AND the ability to vote puts a huge target on my back right from the beginning. I guess that the characteristics of a SK is to blend in easily and not running around looking suspicious from the start. I am pretty sure the real SK, if there's actually one and it's not just a town aligned cop or somethung, is laughing his ass off right now so don't just put this role on me assuming I am the only one not clearly aligned with one of the parties.
Also someone mentioned I should have RC first thing in the game. I can't find the post right now but it was sometime before El Topos shenanigans.
Looking back at D1 and on how we were running through the dark picking on everything that seemed even the tiniest bit suspicious, I disagree.
It might have given town the first reasonable lynch but I simply did not want to leave the game on my first day. And seeing what happened to KK I guess it was the right decision atm.
Also I got to add that me not being able to vote was out in the open from the moment I placed my first vote, just nobody noticed it. Ouro never counted my first vote on KK and never wrote down my name in any of his lists until D2.
Now to my alliance. My Role PM says I am aligned with no one until my already mentioned conditions are fulfilled. The word "neutral" is never mentioned and I have been wondering if that is just flavor-ism or if there actually is someone else in the game were the actual term, neutral, was used.
As it is for now I can do nothing but wait and see how the day will continue.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
bananaspaceprincess (4)
Palmer_v1
El Topo
Never Forever
*Splinter
Lone_Prodigy
Lone_Prodigy (3)
Fireblend
Hyperactivity
nin1000
SalvaPot
CornBurrito
Hyperactivity (1)
Kalor
SalvaPot
Fireblend (0)
nin1000
bananaspaceprincess
CornBurrito (0)
nin1000
Kalor (0)
Palmer_v1
No active vote for Day 2:
cabot
CornBurrito (has previously voted)
El Topo (has previously voted)
Fireblend (has previously voted)
Day 2 ends:
7 votes for majority
bananaspaceprincess (4)
Palmer_v1
Never Forever
*Splinter
Lone_Prodigy
Lone_Prodigy (3)
Hyperactivity
nin1000
SalvaPot
Hyperactivity (1)
Kalor
Fireblend (0)
bananaspaceprincess
CornBurrito (0)
Kalor (0)
No active vote for Day 2:
cabot
CornBurrito (has previously voted)
El Topo (has previously voted)
Fireblend (has previously voted)
Day 2 ends:
7 votes for majority
Hyperactivity
Banned
What conditions?
Honestly, don't buy this. There's something you have other than voteless, whether it be the conditions for your alignment, a special night action, etc. No game runner is going to give out a voteless role with nothing else to it
I am inclined to believe you here. I also think that is far more likely we have a Vigilante in our side,
I mean, think about it. GOP, guns, NRA, it makes sense for this flavor to have a gun user in the side of town.
Like I said earlier , he Ouro gave kingkitty the 50/50 thing. What is there not to believe? I trust her for the moment.
You having that moustache turned you into a reasonable man.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I'm pretty sure there's more to her role, but for now I'll trust yours and cornburrito's plan for the night.
Idk, king kitty's role still had something to it. It was essentially a weak cop, which is a thing.
Plain voteless crosses a boundary for me, to jester like evels, and Im sure BSP is hiding something, namely the conditions she says are necessary for her to become town.
Hyperactivity
Banned
So I want to know:
BSP, what are the conditions to determine your alignment?
BSP, what are the conditions to determine your alignment?
Bananaspaceprincess
Neo Member
As I said. Talked about it already! ^^
I think she even stated her conditions, will quote as soon as I am at work.
There it is, almost 24 hours ago. Come on Hyper i expect some more attention from your side.
I don't know why he thinks that you are neutral. What matters though Is that I believe you are town
I don't know why he thinks that you are neutral. What matters though Is that I believe you are town
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CornBurrito
Member
As I said, if you are SK all should be known within a day or two.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
12ish hours left and no better target. Sorry L_P. I couldn't think of anyone else.
Vote: Lone_Prodigy
I dont know but something about the smeir campaign against BSP saying that she is "definitely" the SK just rubs me the wrong way. Of course the possibility is there , but it could have also have been a vigilante on the loose. Just wanted to remind everyone to keep an open mind and well if BSP really turns out to be who she claims to be i will go after those that are screaming the loudest to lynch her.
On the one hand, it seems like a weird and powerless role, the flavor doesn't fit, her win condition is not fully explained or seems weird. It reminds me too much of my Cate Archer claim from the Archer thread. Come up with a role that seems weirdly believable, add a win condition that is in-line with town, in this case even claim to have no power, so you seem like you're absolutely no threat, try to survive long enough to win. It all sounds too nice. Heck, maybe she is actually not the voteless player, but simply tries to survive long enough.
On the other hand, this is Ouro we're talking about. Lone_Prodigy has also been, not weird, but....I don't know, I don't think he is actually mafia, but he still behaves weird, which....would be in line with Launchpad's talk.
On the other hand, this is Ouro we're talking about. Lone_Prodigy has also been, not weird, but....I don't know, I don't think he is actually mafia, but he still behaves weird, which....would be in line with Launchpad's talk.
CornBurrito
Member
In my defense, in DR mafia I screamed the same thing about Crab being Despair during Day 2. I was wrong then, and am willing to admit I might be wrong here. But like all the puzzle pieces fit together.
That message was more towards Palmer and hyper who just want her dead by all means.
Bananaspaceprincess
Neo Member
Ok I give you the flavor of my role if you think it helps to better understand my win conditions.
If scum is killed during the day, the assumption is near, that I "actively" tried to help GOP to track it down -> I fulfilled obligation for my country -> GOP approves my visa -> I have a chance to win the game.
If scum is killed during the night, I did nothing to help GOP -> I don't benefit my country -> they don't approve my visa -> I will not be able to win the game since I have no power and no alignment.
So yes, of course I want to help town because more than anything I really want to place a vote for real.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I don't want her dead, like I said, I'm willing to go with the plan you and cornburrito have for one night and then work with the results
I guess a paranoid part of me thinks there might be conditions for turning scum, and I'd like to get those conditions out the way so that we know when that's happened
Fair Point
Bananaspaceprincess
Neo Member
Yes of course but I really did not feel comfortable at all with revealing anything on D1 and tbh I did not think so far :/
I do agree with Salva that a GOP aligned Vigilante would fit the theme of the game pretty well.
But the thing is that the two night kills on N1 feel a lot more like SK. Wouldn't it be very risky for a Vigilante to use its bullets in N1? I am very confused about that. I guess it's a matter of either analyzing the mechanics of the game or interpreting actions.
Never underestimate Ouro. He put Robin Hood in the Archer game.
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