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GameTrailers Top 20 NES Games Part 1
- Thread starter WrenchNinja
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Dragon Warrior 4 (Dragon Quest 4) >> Final Fantasy
Even Dragon Quest 2 > Final fantasy.
Final Fantasy seemed so archaic even at the time it was released when DQ2 came out shortly after.
uncelestial
Member
So you don't respect Miyamoto's opinion. Got it.
Most people hate Zelda 2 so there's that.=p
I liked Zelda 2, but I hate some of the design choices and odd difficulty balance.
Did Miyamoto actually say it was a "bad" game? I thought he said they "could have done more with (it)."
fvng
Member
lol, you think that's going to change how I feel about the game? He didn't say it was a bad game, he said he wishes he could have done some things differently. Nice distortion though. Zelda 2 is awesome
Empyrean Heaven
Member
20. Okay
19. Way too low, yes it had a bigger impact on Game Boy, but still.
18. Also too low.
17. Decent placement.
16. Also decent.
15. WAY too low.
14. Okay
13. Okay.
12. WAYYYYY too low.
11. HAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA.
If the top 3 isn't Mega Man 2, Legend of Zelda, and SMB3 this list is invalid.
Actually, I'll just do what I think the list should be (based on 20-11)
10. River City Ransom
9. Super Mario Bros. 2
8. Mega Man 3
7. Ninja Gaiden
6. Castlevania
5. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
4. Mega Man 2
3. Super Mario Bros.
2. Legend of Zelda
1. Super Mario Bros. 3
The closest is from an old interview:
Shigeru Miyamoto said:
Superplay said:
Shigeru Miyamoto said:
The notion that he thinks it's a "bad" game seems to be total fiction. And even if he did, appealing to authority isn't a very convincing argument about what makes it bad.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Jeez, that sure is high praise!
woopWOOP
Member
Pretty solid list so far.
But I guess they're going for memorable rather than being good, because Ghosts 'n Goblins on NES is pretty lousy, aside from the kickass music that made me pop it in and play it a lot anyway.
Also kinda odd Zelda 2 is so high. I don't mind, it's the only Zelda I liked enough to finish, but it's usually the 'black sheep' people like to shit on. I'm betting there's a couple of past GT videos that do just that.
Also also, Ducktales 2 is exactly like Ducktales but with better polish and more features. And Bermuda Triangle music >>> Moon theme
But I guess they're going for memorable rather than being good, because Ghosts 'n Goblins on NES is pretty lousy, aside from the kickass music that made me pop it in and play it a lot anyway.
Also kinda odd Zelda 2 is so high. I don't mind, it's the only Zelda I liked enough to finish, but it's usually the 'black sheep' people like to shit on. I'm betting there's a couple of past GT videos that do just that.
Also also, Ducktales 2 is exactly like Ducktales but with better polish and more features. And Bermuda Triangle music >>> Moon theme
A Link to the Past
Banned
Well that's the thing with "samey" sequels, especially ones released very late. By virtue of not being the progenitor of the engine and style, being better simply isn't good enough to be more well-liked and well-remembered.
GillianSeed79
Member
Real talk. Ghosts n' Goblins has no business being on that list.
Know what game belongs on anyone's top 20 NES games list? The Guardian Legend. Seriously, it's such a great game, and one of the first to mix up genres and do it well. I honestly feel it was a game way ahead of it's time.
Anyway, it won't make the list for sure. It's always been one of the most overlooked greats of the era. More people really need to play it.
Just please don't be a Mario game at number 1. Not hating on Mario (they were great), but the NES has had some true gems that are far more interesting, creative, and fun.
Anyway, it won't make the list for sure. It's always been one of the most overlooked greats of the era. More people really need to play it.
Just please don't be a Mario game at number 1. Not hating on Mario (they were great), but the NES has had some true gems that are far more interesting, creative, and fun.
The list was made by the staff, some of which haven't played every game on the list.
Some of them campaigned to get their games on the list, that is why Ghosts n' Goblins is on their list.
Remember though this is their opinions and they're entitled to place the games that they want.
Some of them campaigned to get their games on the list, that is why Ghosts n' Goblins is on their list.
Remember though this is their opinions and they're entitled to place the games that they want.
I do not understand Mega Man 2. That game is absolutely plagued with slowdown and flickering at the worst times, along with Metal Blade obsoleting everything, uneven difficulty, and one of the worst boss fights in any revered game. There are times of legitimately unfair difficulty stemming just from the game chugging so badly it's throwing off the timing of your jumps and making projectiles invisible. The graphics and music are wonderful. The level design is mostly good, although sometimes feeling formulaic (miniboss -> miniboss over a pit! hazard X -> hazard Y -> hazard X and Y together!), the controls are serviceable (that delay before you begin walking is a bit annoying), but the game itself is a nightmare to play sometimes, especially at the end.
yup
sixteen-bit
Member
Don't hold up as well, have better sequels on subsequent platforms.
No... it's not unreasonable at all.
Super Dodgeball NES is a fucking masterpiece, and sooooo many people have never even played it. Truly one of the "secret" best NES games easily.
maniac-kun
Member
I would not pick Zelda 2. People hated it. I hate it.
Piston Hyundai
Member
they're gonna go with something other than SMB3 for the clicks, watch
I don't get it either.
Randomizer
Member
Kirby and Castlevania 3 are Top 10 or even Top 5 calibre. I can't help but wonder what the Top 10 will include now?
Guaranteed Top 10:
SMB3 - Unquestionably the best game on the NES not even up for debate.
SMB - Technically surpassed in every way but the game was a revolution and is still fantastic.
Zelda - Another classic that needs little explanation for its inclusion.
MM2 - Best music in the series great level design. Yeah its the easiest entry but it's still a challenge.
River City Ransom
Maybes:
Mike Tyson's Punchout!
Ninja Gaiden
Dragon Warrior 3
Dragon warrior
SMB2
FFII
Kid Icarus
Castlevania
Guaranteed Top 10:
SMB3 - Unquestionably the best game on the NES not even up for debate.
SMB - Technically surpassed in every way but the game was a revolution and is still fantastic.
Zelda - Another classic that needs little explanation for its inclusion.
MM2 - Best music in the series great level design. Yeah its the easiest entry but it's still a challenge.
River City Ransom
Maybes:
Mike Tyson's Punchout!
Ninja Gaiden
Dragon Warrior 3
Dragon warrior
SMB2
FFII
Kid Icarus
Castlevania
ForsakenLotus
Member
Man, I really don't remember Zelda II being that well received.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Zelda 2 is awesome; it has some of the ambiguity present in most NES games (so you needed to buy Nintendo Power to solve some puzzle), but it is so fun.
My only wish is that they do another like it; although OOT is based heavily on this game, and Smash stole all of it's move-set.
It is a much better game than Zelda 1.
My only wish is that they do another like it; although OOT is based heavily on this game, and Smash stole all of it's move-set.
It is a much better game than Zelda 1.
Piston Hyundai
Member
ducktales is a better game, but you're right about the music
hell, amazon's music is better than the moon's
You don't?
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/1988_Nintendo_Power_Awards
It won game of the year in Nintendo Power over the original Zelda, Super Mario Bros 2, Mega Man, Punch Out, Blaster Master, Double Dragon, and Metroid.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Zelda II is awesome. I still enjoy playing through it to this day. I won't say it's better than the original, but both games are worthy titles for the NES.
woopWOOP
Member
I tend to think of these top games lists as listing a system's best of the best so 'lesser' games getting in because of popularity (as in most people know about it) doesn't really jive with me. But I suppose in the end it's all opinions anyway.
Nah man, extra abilities to be found in the stages, an item shop between stages, secret map pieces in each stage to unlock a secret level and hidden treasures including one which requires you to raise an island from the sea. It's like comparing Mega Man 1 to Mega Man 3.
On that note though I kind of like that the first Ducktales has that basic 'first generation' NES game feeling, actually similar to the first Mega Man. Don't ask me why but I dig that stuff.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
The only thing I like better about DuckTales 2 is the fact that you don't have to hold down to activate the pogo jump. Otherwise, I prefer the original in every way.
WrenchNinja
Member
Part 2 is up:
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/tyjaqh/gt-countdown-top-20-nes-games---part-2--10-1
10. Mike Tyson's Punchout
09. Ninja Gaiden
08. Mega Man 3
07. River City Ransom
06. Castlevania
05. Dragon Warrior IV
04. Super Mario Bros.
03. Mega Man 2
02. The Legend of Zelda
01. Super Mario Bros. 3
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/tyjaqh/gt-countdown-top-20-nes-games---part-2--10-1
10. Mike Tyson's Punchout
09. Ninja Gaiden
08. Mega Man 3
07. River City Ransom
06. Castlevania
05. Dragon Warrior IV
04. Super Mario Bros.
03. Mega Man 2
02. The Legend of Zelda
01. Super Mario Bros. 3
I knew Ninja Gaiden would make it on the list.
dead souls
Member
The rare list where I think every single game on it is great. Some of them wouldn't have made me own personal NES top 20, but that's a minor quibble.