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tHoMNZ
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(11-01-2009, 04:47 AM)
#5901

Originally Posted by J-Rzez:
The recoil was way over-done in MW1. Hopefully it was toned down across the board, along with that damned autoaim. They just tried to hollywood the guns up though. If those guns kicked that much you wouldn't be able to hit shit past 25yards. Which as we know doesn't work, and you have people sniping via bursts from LMGs and their iron sights from across the map.

If this game does turn out poor at least it's only a short wait until Jan.

You're kidding right, recoil has been non existent since cod2
Schrade
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(11-01-2009, 05:00 AM)
 
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#5902

Originally Posted by Strider2K99:
Damn, I wish I had that video saved. Maybe someone else has it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLxFkWv5SM&fmt=22

Can download it via this link: 720p
Mendelevium
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(11-01-2009, 05:40 AM)
 
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#5903

No glock in multiplayer? :/
doomed1
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(11-01-2009, 06:25 AM)
 
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#5904

Originally Posted by Mendelevium:
No glock in multiplayer? :/
G10 dude. might have meant the G18, but yes, the glock IS in. Personally, I'm more interested in the F92R
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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(11-01-2009, 05:18 PM)
 
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#5905

Anyone notice the Cloverfield reference in MW2:

At Whiskey Hotel, they voice over announcement from the comms repeatedly states that the Hammer Down is in effect, hence why you have to pop green smoke on the roof.
Kibbles
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(11-01-2009, 06:08 PM)
 
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#5906

Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb
JB1981
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Rich, smooth, creamy shit.
(11-01-2009, 06:17 PM)
#5907

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb

the chopper gunner looks ridiculously unfair

- that guy just killed like 15 people in a row!
CrazedArabMan
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(11-01-2009, 06:18 PM)
 
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#5908

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb

Exactly what I feared, it seems way to easy to get kills that way.
Ramirez
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(11-01-2009, 06:26 PM)
 
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#5909

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb

smh

Can you kill the guy or is it just timed and you have to wait it out?
gnarkill bill
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(11-01-2009, 06:30 PM)
 
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#5910

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb

ehh
corkscrewblow
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(11-01-2009, 06:37 PM)
 
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#5911

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb
The multiplayer just gets worse and worse everytime I check this thread. I wish it was just CoD4 with new guns and maps.
Kibbles
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(11-01-2009, 06:41 PM)
 
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#5912

Watching the MP stream, the dude just picked up 4 care packages next to each other a minute into the game. He got a Predator missile, a gunner helicopter, a sentry gun, and something else that I missed. Damn.

And now he stops mid-game to look at pics kids sent to him. What the hell...
EviLore
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(11-01-2009, 06:42 PM)
 
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#5913

BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH

+100 +100 +100 +20 +100 +150 +200

BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH

+100 +20 +40 +100 +100 +100 +100

BUDUH

+100

BUDUH

+100


At least if someone summons a tactical nuke you don't have to deal with your whole team dying and respawning and dying again five times to one helicopter.
Voltron64
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(11-01-2009, 06:46 PM)
 
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#5914

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb
That looked really frustrating for the other team.
Cerrius
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(11-01-2009, 06:47 PM)
 
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#5915

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb


Ok that looks awesome. I much prefer this over getting attacked by a CPU controlled helicopter.

Whether this is overpowered or not remains to be seen but I don't think there will be any significant balancing issues with the player controlled heli.
CcrooK
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(11-01-2009, 06:47 PM)
 
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#5916

That's gotta be the most ridiculous MP I've ever seen.
CrazedArabMan
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(11-01-2009, 06:49 PM)
 
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#5917

The sad thing is that review will praise it for having such a variety of kill streaks, instead of showing how unbalanced the kill streaks could possibly be.

It at least shouldn't outline the guys, even the ones that were hidden inside the building.
eternaLightness
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(11-01-2009, 06:49 PM)
 
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#5918

Really don't like that. I can already see a lot of people going back to CoD4 after playing this for a few months at least.
Accident
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(11-01-2009, 06:51 PM)
 
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#5919

You can't be in party chat while playing some playlists:

Kibbles
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(11-01-2009, 06:57 PM)
 
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#5920

Originally Posted by Accident:
You can't be in party chat while playing some playlists:

What the fuck? How can they control that? Wow.... just wow.
venom2124
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(11-01-2009, 07:02 PM)
#5921

What is the problem with user controlled kill streaks? There are perks that keep you from being outlined on the user's screen and there are weapons designed to take out aircraft. If you or your team neglects to use an AT4 or Jav loadout, it's not IW's problem. The counter measures are there, people just have to use them.
TTP
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(11-01-2009, 07:03 PM)
 
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#5922

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
What the fuck? How can they control that? Wow.... just wow.

That's actually good news. Fuck the game-ruining party chatters.
Church RvB
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(11-01-2009, 07:03 PM)
 
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#5923

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
What the fuck? How can they control that? Wow.... just wow.

yeah, this looks REALLLLLY annoying. What if i want to talk to other players who aren't playing MW2? c'mon IW i know people complained about SnD but wtf is wrong with you guys!?
Spinning Plates
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(11-01-2009, 07:05 PM)
#5924

Which playlists is this for?

Can someone explain why exactly they have locked you out?

I mainly play TDM in a party you see.
Rickard
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(11-01-2009, 07:07 PM)
 
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#5925

I really want to know what all the "Pro" variants of perks are and how to unlcok them.

Where should I look for that information?
saelz8
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(11-01-2009, 07:08 PM)
 
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#5926

Originally Posted by Spinning Plates:
Which playlists is this for?

Can someone explain why exactly they have locked you out?

I mainly play TDM in a party you see.
Most likely for Hardcore S&D.
ToyMachine228
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(11-01-2009, 07:11 PM)
 
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#5927

Started to get really psyched for Modern Warfare 2. Hope it can really deliver.
epmode
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(11-01-2009, 07:13 PM)
#5928

Originally Posted by Accident:
You can't be in party chat while playing some playlists:

Wow, that's awesome. Didn't even know that was possible.
corkscrewblow
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(11-01-2009, 07:15 PM)
 
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#5929

Originally Posted by Accident:
You can't be in party chat while playing some playlists:

[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3V0H8wcf5MA/SuxlRl1spPI/AAAAAAAAAQM/fJHjPCrNf6E/s1600/gamechat.jpg[IMG]
Thank god for the mute option.
Kibbles
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(11-01-2009, 07:16 PM)
 
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#5930

I hope it's just for SnD. Even so, what if I want to talk with friends that are not playing MW2? IW is taking away a feature from MS
J-Rzez
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(11-01-2009, 07:18 PM)
 
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#5931

Originally Posted by eternaLightness:
Really don't like that. I can already see a lot of people going back to CoD4 after playing this for a few months at least.

It's going to be SOCOM 3/CA all over again. There's "out of control" in a good way, then there's this. Really losing hope for this game. They're seemingly taking it in the direction I didn't want it to go. I'd rather the old CPU controlled Heli as it had a quasi-cooldown before moving onto a new target. This one the guy just holds down the trigger and doesn't stop. As it's going, I can see myself playing it not nearly as serious as I did in the past, and just using it to hold me over until a better game comes along.

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
What the fuck? How can they control that? Wow.... just wow.

One of the few, if only, smart things done by IW so it doesn't hurt certain game modes.
Zabka
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(11-01-2009, 07:18 PM)
 
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#5932

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb
Wow, these directly controlled perks are fucking terrible.

The one thing that I liked about CoD4 is that IW made an effort to curb frustrating bullshit. The predator missile and this helicopter crap is just too much.
Mikey Jr.
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(11-01-2009, 07:24 PM)
 
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#5933

Is anyone else getting a little depressed in MW2's MP?

COD4 was perfect in my opinion. Arcadey but based in realism. Now you have nukes, various types of helicopters, portable spawn points, gunner seats, throwing knives, EMP, random killstreaks falling from the sky, sentry turrets, your radar being affected, missles falling down from the sky.

Seems like it's less about your gun and your skill, and now it's about how much explosions and random shit you can do it 8 seconds.

I am not pumped for the MP at all. It seems like there are too many random variables but not in a good way. COD4 was the limit, and IW decided that they needed to surpass that limit for the sequel which is wrong in my opinion.

Granted I haven't played yet, but those videos do nothing for me especially the gunner seat helicopter one. Pisses me off watching it. When I am trying to play, and someone can see a red square around me and blast me to hell rather easily. And my only defense is to carry around an RPG even though I hate them.

I HOPE there is a playlist that reduces all that stuff like they were originally going to do in COD4.

I'll give it a shot, but there is always Bad Company 2 on the horizon, so that will atleast bring me some comfort.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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(11-01-2009, 07:25 PM)
 
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#5934

Is there anyone else besides me who is just hyped for the SP mode and who never even plays that much MP?
corkscrewblow
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(11-01-2009, 07:27 PM)
 
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#5935

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.:
Seems like it's less about your gun and your skill, and now it's about how much explosions and random shit you can do it 8 seconds.
100% this.


I really hope a traditional mode gets added somewhere down the line where there's no perks and killstreak rewards. JUST GUNZ PLZ.
RoboPlato
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(11-01-2009, 07:29 PM)
 
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#5936

Originally Posted by Manos: The Hans of Fate:
Is there anyone else besides me who is just hyped for the SP mode and who never even plays that much MP?
Me. PSN doesn't play well at all with my internet connection at school and I've never been big into MP anyway. I always enjoy the CoD campaigns though.
Papercuts
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(11-01-2009, 07:30 PM)
 
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#5937

Eeesh, all of this stuff is looking really bad.
nib95
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(11-01-2009, 07:32 PM)
 
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#5938

Originally Posted by EviLore:
BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH

+100 +100 +100 +20 +100 +150 +200

BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH BUDUH

+100 +20 +40 +100 +100 +100 +100

BUDUH

+100

BUDUH

+100


At least if someone summons a tactical nuke you don't have to deal with your whole team dying and respawning and dying again five times to one helicopter.

Indeed. The helicopter control inclusion seems detrimental to gameplay imo. In-fact, the more I see of this game, the more concerned I get. First SP level vid I saw looked more like Serious Sam than COD, then the second that was unnecessarily violent and "shocking". The MP doens't really look that different, but where it does, it looks...cheaper. Hmm...I hope my concerns are short lived and the game is actually awesome. They have the cheek to charge more than everyone else, so it better damn well be nothing but the best.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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(11-01-2009, 07:34 PM)
 
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#5939

Originally Posted by RoboPlato:
Me. PSN doesn't play well at all with my internet connection at school and I've never been big into MP anyway. I always enjoy the CoD campaigns though.

Yeah, even though I've seen the campaign twice lol It just makes me want to play it more and more. I am looking forward to the Spec Ops stuff though.
Papercuts
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(11-01-2009, 07:34 PM)
 
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#5940

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Watching the MP stream, the dude just picked up 4 care packages next to each other a minute into the game. He got a Predator missile, a gunner helicopter, a sentry gun, and something else that I missed. Damn.

And now he stops mid-game to look at pics kids sent to him. What the hell...

Ugh. I atleast hope you can't get the nuke from that, but after seeing this stuff, I wouldn't doubt it.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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(11-01-2009, 07:35 PM)
 
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#5941

Originally Posted by nib95:
Indeed. The helicopter control inclusion seems detrimental to gameplay imo. In-fact, the more I see of this game, the more concerned I get. First SP level vid I saw looked more like Serious Sam than COD, then the second that was unnecessarily violent and "shocking".

I can say from viewing the entire campaign, it's amazing. Everything clicks together really well.
nib95
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(11-01-2009, 07:37 PM)
 
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#5942

Originally Posted by Manos: The Hans of Fate:
I can say from viewing the entire campaign, it's amazing. Everything clicks together really well.

Is it more frantic and kill crazy, or are there plenty of quieter and/or narrative driven moments such as the sniper level from the first?
CitizenCope
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(11-01-2009, 07:39 PM)
 
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#5943

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.:
Is anyone else getting a little depressed in MW2's MP?
This guy!!
I seem to be less excited about the mp with every video I've seen.
I played COD4 pretty slow paced. Wasn't a camper but I also wouldn't run into the front lines standing up. Each video I've seen of MW2 seems like mayhem and it looks like I would have to completely change my play style.
As a huge fan of BF1943 on 360 I may be looking more forward to Bad Company 2 even though I wasn't a fan of the original.
FortMajor
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(11-01-2009, 07:42 PM)
 
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#5944

Originally Posted by Kibbles:
Woah you control the helicopters now? At least this one - http://www.justin.tv/clip/51466a0a7678d0bb

That is dissappointing to watch. First off the time he controlled the gun in the chopper is way too long. Second, they shoulda put an "overheat" handicap on that thing. Just holding the trigger down and moving to the next red square is kinda cheap.

I think the operator should ping on the radar making him easier to find and kill in order to stop that kill streak if its gonna be so long.

I fear cold bolded will become one of those "mandatory" perks you have on all your classes for fear of being blasted to shit by random things in the sky.
ZeroRay
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(11-01-2009, 07:42 PM)
 
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#5945

Damn, the MP looks like it's completely broken by the various killstreak rewards, especially the care package which can give a player a higher killstreak reward than what he had to do get the package in the first place (4 kills).
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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(11-01-2009, 07:44 PM)
 
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#5946

Originally Posted by nib95:
Is it more frantic and kill crazy, or are there plenty of quieter and/or narrative driven moments such as the sniper level from the first?

It's a pretty good mix of both. The narrative moments occur in both types of levels too.
Rickard
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(11-01-2009, 07:55 PM)
 
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#5947

You know, I can't help but feel that the only thing that breaks the game is the random killstreaks given by the care-package.

Other than that it seems pretty fair.

Like, in order for a person to get a nuke or helicopter they need to pick those for their killstreak, so they need to sacrifice a low killstreak they will probably get for a higher killstreak they might get. That's fair.

Getting an EMP at 4 kills is bullshit, even if the other team can steal it.
Kibbles
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(11-01-2009, 07:57 PM)
 
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#5948

Damn the new ACOG is sweet. Didn't the old one increase range, but lower accuracy? This one just increases range, doesn't lower anything else.

[edit] Apparently the streamer just got killed by a care package that was dropped on him. Awesome.
Net_Wrecker
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(11-01-2009, 07:59 PM)
 
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#5949

Originally Posted by Accident:
You can't be in party chat while playing some playlists:


WHHHHHAAAAATTTT THHHEEEE HEEEELLLLLLLL

That's some crap right there.
Kibbles
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(11-01-2009, 08:03 PM)
 
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#5950

It looks like you control the Gunner Helicopter, but not the Pavelow.
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