alright, I'm gonna wash my cat, eat, play Fallout 4, and I'll be back within 24 hours. Thanks for trying to give me an answer Gorlak. Curious to see what others feel about this plan (especially the ones who wouldn't answer my question).
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Harry Potter [Mafia] |OT| Yer a werewolf, Arry
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alright, I'm gonna wash my cat, eat, play Fallout 4, and I'll be back within 24 hours. Thanks for trying to give me an answer Gorlak. Curious to see what others feel about this plan (especially the ones who wouldn't answer my question).
The only scenario in which you want PRs to reveal themselves is the one in which you are scum. No matter how much you try to talk yourself out of this, the line is there for everybody to read and interpretate. I don't think this was a casual line of keeping the conversation going, because we have plenty of discussion. One little slip can be everything you need to catch scum. You aren't convincing me.
No, you stay the fuck here and post a list of your top 3 town and scum players! Give us your read on the game.
So you won't answer the questions others made, and bail the thread? Interesting.
I have a problem with Kitty claiming PR, and that's that scums might have PR's we don't know about, he could use his own scum PR while making up a believable character role around it (safe claim).
Obviously it would be most strange if he claimed roleblocker or an investigative-type of role. But there could be more.
Talk myself out of what? What exactly am I talking myself out of? Are you now accusing me of being a Death Eater? Over because you interpreted a line I said differently? What exactly do you want me to say?
Believe what you want if that's what you actually think.
Well, even if kitty has a decent role claim, we will still have blarg claiming he is scum. Just a believable roleclaim will not be enough for me to get off his ass, for that I also need to be convinced blarg is lying.
"others"? you mean gorlak
"questions"? you mean a question, which is basically to give a read list
try not to make it seem like a bigger deal Burbeting
how on earth could I even prove that???
unless someone has a special role can that prove his contradiction, and is willing to out themselves over it
it's an unwinnable situation.
Roytheone asked you to answer same question, so I counted it as two people. Okay, not maybe "others", but it is clearly plural.
And I dunno about reads, but top 3 town and top 3 scum could be just a list of names too.
Oh, the sweet irony. Of all the people you are the one concerned about a believeable claim? But whatever, Kingkitty's current behaviour isn't going to help him. I get the vibe of a catched scum from him, especially the pity post set of my alarm. I'm more concerned that in reaction to his claim somebody else will reveal himself. Any idea how to prevent that? Probably depends on the claim.
My claim is something I know is the truth. It's up to the others, if they believe it or not. Just like it's up to us, if we believe kitty or not.
But my main point in that post was: If Scum makes a claim based on his PR, and we then lynch the Investigator (Blarg) because of it, it would be a big win for Scum. And if kitty is scum, trust me, they will try it.
What an interesting start to the day.
I was going to head straight for Burb again to start the Day and see where it ends up, but Blarg had to go and change that. I imagine he's telling the truth and KingKitty is a Death Eater. It doesn't make any sense for Blarg to pull this maneuver if he wasn't expecting to die. There's no counter claim for Dumbledore either which would really spice things up (unless that's KingKitty's claim, in which case he's definitely dead). With that said, I won't be voting KingKitty just yet, at least not until a little bit more information comes from him.
For now, I'm with Gorlak on Miracle.
VOTE: Miracle
His (?) subtle attempt at role phishing was very misguided and has only drawn him the ire of people who noticed it. His comment seemed very off the cuff, so to say, as in he was trying to mask it with the rest of his post. I'm curious what others think about Miracle too.
I was going to head straight for Burb again to start the Day and see where it ends up, but Blarg had to go and change that. I imagine he's telling the truth and KingKitty is a Death Eater. It doesn't make any sense for Blarg to pull this maneuver if he wasn't expecting to die. There's no counter claim for Dumbledore either which would really spice things up (unless that's KingKitty's claim, in which case he's definitely dead). With that said, I won't be voting KingKitty just yet, at least not until a little bit more information comes from him.
For now, I'm with Gorlak on Miracle.
VOTE: Miracle
His (?) subtle attempt at role phishing was very misguided and has only drawn him the ire of people who noticed it. His comment seemed very off the cuff, so to say, as in he was trying to mask it with the rest of his post. I'm curious what others think about Miracle too.
roytheone never asked me the same question, he asked me about blarg which I already sort of answered.
also it's Day freakin' 2, so I can't pretend I have 100 percent strong enough reads on anyone to say "this person is absolutely scum".
but I will say the person I want sliced and diced right now is Blarg. Either for making a horrible town gambit, or making the most classiest, luxurious mafia gambit ever (for now I'm leaning with the former).
you don't have to agree with my logic, I don't care. I'm in a bind that can only be solved either by somehow proving Blarg is lying (how the hell can I do that), or through my own death.
I know, making up claims is the best and most enjoyable thing in the game if you are scum! They will try anything, but right now I see the chances of swinging the votes to Blarg as very low.
Gorlak what was the pity post? link please
would you not be desperate to survive? like how is that even a negative? very confusing post here
Scum can try, but they will have to go directly against Blarg his claim which will not be easy. Unless kitty has a way to prove his claim or discredit blarg, It will be very hard for him to escape being lynched.
Kingkitty: If you are town, I'm truly sorry you are in this situation, because it would suck ass. But at the same time you have to make the best out of it. Try to help us win the game. There is a high chance you end up dead today and the best way to contribute is to give us insight into your mind. Who acted scummy, who do you feel can be trusted? What do you make of Miracle or all the people wanting to vote you? Give us anything of course with your reasoning.
You don't have to be 100% sure on anything, most of the time most of the people have wrong reads. Nevertheless they will help us in retrospective to decipher who is who in the game. Don't sit in the corner and cry, try to do the best you can right now.
This was what I was referring to: #1002. The whole "why me? how can I stop this?" doesn't help us. Try to be productive. If you are town you can still win in death with us!
You don't have to be 100% sure on anything, most of the time most of the people have wrong reads. Nevertheless they will help us in retrospective to decipher who is who in the game. Don't sit in the corner and cry, try to do the best you can right now.
This was what I was referring to: #1002. The whole "why me? how can I stop this?" doesn't help us. Try to be productive. If you are town you can still win in death with us!
Yeah no kidding.
It's not bad to want to survive, but the way you are defending yourself and your reasoning is seemingly flawed if Blarg's claim is true.
I like this person.
In my defense of ONUW I became the Tanner's Wife and wasn't informed of who the Tanner was so 95% of what I said in that game was complete BS. This morning I was actually at work like I said earlier and it was meeting day today so I couldn't really sneak off and play Mafia. :/
Anyway, the fun times of last night. Sadly I didn't wake up with the fun and friendly curse like Blarg has right now, instead I have been informed that I have been Poisoned and I will die in 2 Nights from last night ( so Night 3 ). I'm coming out with this info now for a few reasons.
1. It means we have a Poisoner somewhere. Whether they are Scum or Neutral I have no idea but I feel it's important that everyone else should know and be made aware.
2. I don't want to die. I'm hoping that to counter this Poisoner role there is someone out there who can cure poison via potion or a spell or something. However, if you can do this don't say anything about it. Also, play smart. If you don't feel safe enough to try and save me during the Night that's alright, I would much rather die than someone else get caught up in this.
3. If we have to discuss this, fine, but I would prefer we keep it short and sweet so we can move on and find Scum. There is little to figure out here except for the existence of a role that can poison people.
So, with the limited time I now have, I'm going to go back and see what I can find from Day 1 as well as asses what has already happened today. Blarg v. KingKitty seems to be the topic of the Day so I will start looking on that and get back to you guys.
Was there anything useful in the message about how you got poisoned? Was it a spell? Anything flavourwise?
Nope, it was very cut-and-dry. I was just told I was poisoned and I will die in 2 Nights.
A poisoner...interesting.
So wait a minute, how many scum is that now?
- there was a Death Eator that killed Swamped
- a Death Eator that investigated Blarg
- and a possible Death Eator that changed the way Blarg would post (if we assume this is also true)
- a Death Eator that poisoned Sawneeks
So that's 4 Death Eators so far assuming all the information is true right?
So wait a minute, how many scum is that now?
- there was a Death Eator that killed Swamped
- a Death Eator that investigated Blarg
- and a possible Death Eator that changed the way Blarg would post (if we assume this is also true)
- a Death Eator that poisoned Sawneeks
So that's 4 Death Eators so far assuming all the information is true right?
Lone_Prodigy
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I think the investigator/curser is the same person.
A poisoner could be a neutral, and could account for our second killer.
A poisoner could be a neutral, and could account for our second killer.
Lone_Prodigy
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Sawneeks, any idea who could want you dead?
I would argue that whoever targeted me or whoever cursed Blarg's speech could be Neutral. A Neutral Jester makes a little more sense than a Neutral Poisoner so I'm more inclined to think that way. Also don't forget the possibility of a Scum Roleblocker.
Still, 4 Scum in a 28 player game sounds about right given the possible powers they may have.
Is there any way scum would come up with this kind of story to survive another two nights? You're basically safe from any lynch or night action for the next two Days&Nights if this is true, because there is no incentive in interacting with you. A survivor trying to stay alive? Very unlikely, that's why I think you are town and telling us the truth.
Oh that's right. I was confused if it was the same person or not. Damn what a powerful role.
First off Gorlak, thank you for your thoughts.
Second off, I don't agree with your assertion that I am sitting in a corner crying. And third, I don't agree with your analysis of my supposed "pity post".
Anyways I'll be back within 24 hours.
What does a Jester actually do in this game since I'm new here? In Town of Salem, a Jester is just a role that can only win if he is lynched, then gets to kill anybody that voted to lynch him during the night.
it's an unwinnable situation, so try not to act so weird about it Flame
as I said before, I'll be back.
If she was scum, Why would Sawneeks of all people do that? I think she had like 0 suspicion on her and wouldn't be a lynch candidate ,especially with us now focusing on blarg Vs kitty. So I agree that she is probably speaking the truth.
No idea and it's why I plan to go back and read Day 1. I know towards the end of Day 1 a few people put myself and Hyper in the 'most likely to be Town' group so maybe Scum wanted to get rid of one of us but not immediately??
Scum could totally pull this card and it was a reason I was hesitant to say anything right away because this can now become an excuse in the coming Day phases. All a Scum has to do is claim being poisoned and they will be free for 2 Days, only they could run into the problem of living after the 2nd Day and would only just be putting off the inevitable. Still, if a person claims Poison and is acting Scummy don't just give them a free pass 'because they are going to die anyway'.
This was just my impression, back in Archer I behaved much in the same way when being discovered... and others seem to dislike your reaction as well. And now you are off without supplying the help you are asked of?
There can be multiple Neutrals. Archer had two, although I can't think of a goal for poisoner/jester Neutrals.
But possibly role blocking, investigating and poisoning scum pr's, with maybe even more? Would be pretty powerful scum team, so I'm inclined to think at least one of those roles would be neutral.
I believe Sawneeks' claim, there would be no reason to push herself forward with it. But, if poisoner is neutral, it doesn't mean Sawneeks is not a scum. Possibilities, possibilities.
Am I Dobby and you're my owner? If you say jump should I ask "how high"?
Nobody of us can know this for sure with the exception of maybe the poisoner himself or a possible healer... Nothing is written in stone and part of the game is to figure out what kinds of roles and mechanics are implemented.
We don't know. There may be a role that can cure her, but we will just have to wait and see.
Ohhhhh I see. Thanks.
Blargonaut
Banned
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Wow, all I did was ask you to help us. Feel free to do what you want.
Nothing was said in the PM I received but I hope there is lol. I don't want to be out of the game so early.
Going off the Mafia Wiki it seems like Poisons are usually only cured through specific roles like 'Poison Doctor' but it is up to the discretion of the game runners on how it is handled. Basically we have no way of knowing unless someone with a Role comes forward and I DON'T recommend doing that.
I thought you were going to play Fallout.
It's why I suggested 4 Scum roles in a game this big. Poisoner, Roleblock, Investigation, and 1 'other' is a really strong team. I won't discount a Scum Jester but it just seems weird for 2 Scum to target Blarg at once.
The poisoner role is interesting. I believe Sawneeks as they have no need to come forward with this information if they were . It only puts a target on their back. I guess it makes sense flavor wise as well, someone brews a potion and sends it out. This might be our second killer.
A possible scenario that I thought of, though unlikely is that Sawneeks is a Death Eater and was poisoned by a neutral. They revealed this so that they would be safe until the poison kicked in. Unlikely but a thought I had.
A possible scenario that I thought of, though unlikely is that Sawneeks is a Death Eater and was poisoned by a neutral. They revealed this so that they would be safe until the poison kicked in. Unlikely but a thought I had.
Well, if this is the case we will find out soon enough (unless there is indeed a way to cure the poison).