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kinaesthete
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(01-07-2016, 02:40 AM)
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Some new info from the article:

  • BFG and Chainsaw aren't on the weapon wheel since they're used in specific scenarios, Chainsaw is on D-Pad down and BFG is on X. Seems like they're treating the BFG as a panic button.
  • Weapons have mods you can find, ex. a remote detonation mod for the rocket launcher
  • Plot premise seems similar to Doom 3. A character named Dr. Olivia Pierce appears on a video suggesting she unleashed the demons as some kind of religious cult thing.
  • On-screen enemy count isn't numbered but described as "a demon avalanche", "bloodbath"
  • Chainsaw is a one hit kill on most enemies, multiple on bigger enemies like the Mancubus, power cells are limited
  • Colored keycards and backtracking for secrets. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Some locations: Lazarus Facility, Martian surface, Titan's Realm (as seen on the cover)
  • Permanent character upgrades that allow you to swap weapons and mantle more quickly, increase ammo and health capacity
  • Swappable perk "runes", ex. one gives you a stackable temp speed boost after melee kills
  • Hell is more vertical than the UAC facility
  • Enemies have weak point, ex. the pinky demon is armored in front and soft in the butt
  • An enemy type only described as "a summoner"
  • As suspected, idTech 6 appears to be very similar to idTech 5 but with a completely new PBR renderer
  • Plans to offer "sliders and multi-sampling options" for PC players. Only time in the article PC is mentioned specifically.
  • Multiplayer mode called Warpath, an domination style mode where the control area drifts around the map
  • Clan Arena mode, this is just team Last Man Standing.
  • Swappable "hack modules" are earned through MP progression, ex. Supply Timer that shows spawn timers for pickups on screen. Apparently none of them throw off the competitive balance.
  • Apparently multiplayer has more guns than single player, including a "lightning gun", this might be GI assuming based on what was offered in the demo portions though.
  • Namedrops of old Doom WADs followed by statement implying that they won't be releasing mod tools outside of SnapMap because of accessibility consoles. seems like kind of a big fuck you.
  • Examples of modes made in SnapMap: tower defense, moddy single-player missions, VIP escorts, racing challenges
  • Moddable enemy AI to some extent
  • SnapMap stuff is all shared on SmartHub, categories like top rated and most played, user profiles, seems a lot like Mario Maker
  • All SnapMap creations are small instruction files, you can probably forget about custom textures and rooms and whatnot
  • Still spring release date

ADDED JAN 8TH FROM GAME INFORMER
  • Another named section/level of UAC, Resource Operations
  • An alternate version of the Mancubus was described, this one with flamethrowers. Assuming this in addition to the plasma shooting one as seen in the E3 footage
  • Possessed Engineer enemy type, a former human with an explosive fuel pack that causes chain reactions
  • Reiterating that there are a lot of small secret areas
  • The Baron of Hell is another playable demon in multiplayer, joining the Revenant. He has a melee swipe and an AOE ground pound
  • SnapMap inspired by Garage Band, more stupid shit about not wanting to do mods traditionally
  • Lots of SnapMap tutorials included
  • Monster AI can be assigned to teams in SnapMap, can fight along side player

Info from the beginning of this GameInformer video, courtesy of poster Ixion
  • [s]Everyone[/s] Most people at iD play DOOM with a controller
  • The story is told as you're playing, and he used Dead Space as a comparison
  • The glory kills work well because they give the player brief reprieves amid large, chaotic battles
  • Blue/yellow/red keycards and doors are used throughout the levels, but they're more spaced out than the original games. The game is not a "keycard simulator" like the original games, but they're definitly used to either progress to the next area or backtrack and find secrets

ADDED JAN 13TH FROM GAME INFORMER
  • Sounds like the pistol isn't a glorified pea shooter
  • You can mash X to open broken doors hell yeah!!
  • Imps will sometimes charge their fireballs before shooting
  • Big meaty old hellblobs called Gore Nests appear in levels, destroying them leads a large horde of demons to its location
  • New enemy type, a security guard that carries a shotgun and an energy shield
Nirolak
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(01-07-2016, 10:10 PM)
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Copy bump.
antitrop
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(01-07-2016, 10:10 PM)
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I feel a delay into Summer, but Spring would be sweet.

Probably May, like Wolfenstein was.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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(01-07-2016, 10:11 PM)
  • Colored keycards and backtracking for secrets.

hell ya motherfucker
Raptor
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(01-07-2016, 10:11 PM)

"bloodbath"

Yes please!!
potatohead
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(01-07-2016, 10:11 PM)
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An enemy type only described as "a summoner"

Archvile?
RE_Player
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(01-07-2016, 10:12 PM)
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I have a feeling they are going to nail it. It's not going to change the world but everything shown about the game looks solid.
potatohead
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(01-07-2016, 10:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by RE_Player

I have a feeling they are going to nail it. It's not going to change the world but everything shown about the game looks solid.

Much like Wolfenstein, just an awesome game.
WarpathDC
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(01-07-2016, 10:13 PM)
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Chainsaw being context sensitive in cqc I understand. I want to whip out my bfg early and often though.

patiently waits for based mods
RE_Player
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(01-07-2016, 10:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by potatohead

Much like Wolfenstein, just an awesome game.

Exactly.
Deku Tree
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(01-07-2016, 10:16 PM)
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I am ready. Need me some Doom.
DeathoftheEndless
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(01-07-2016, 10:17 PM)
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Sounds great.
Ionic
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(01-07-2016, 10:17 PM)
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An ample mix of great sounding stuff and not so great sounding stuff. I will remain excited.
Bitch Pudding
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(01-07-2016, 10:19 PM)
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Soft butt demons. I'm in!
Omikron
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(01-07-2016, 10:20 PM)
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Still not confident. Didn't like the currently released media at all.
Gnome Scat
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(01-07-2016, 10:20 PM)
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Sounds good, 2016 is gonna be a great year.
Cipher Peon
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(01-07-2016, 10:21 PM)
I'm anxious that Doom 4 will be more similar to Doom and Doom 2 instead of Doom 3 (my favorite by a landslide) and this new information didn't do much to calm my fears. Oh well!
MiguelItUp
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(01-07-2016, 10:21 PM)
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Game Informer updated their DOOM hub with a video (a montage of E3 footage we've already seen) with some of their feedback. It's worth checking out! Another update tomorrow!

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...ur-brains.aspx
The Broken Ska Record
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(01-07-2016, 10:22 PM)
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I plan to go in with as little knowledge as possible and I hope to be surprised like I was with Wolfenstein TNO.
krang
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(01-07-2016, 10:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cipher Peon

I'm anxious that Doom 4 will be more similar to Doom and Doom 2 instead of Doom 3 (my favorite by a landslide) and this new information didn't do much to calm my fears. Oh well!

I would hope so. Doom 3 wasn't really Doom. Some corridor horror with over-contrasting light effects that happened to have Doom written on the box.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(01-07-2016, 10:23 PM)
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If the level design is reminiscent of the first two games then I will be satisfied. I loved the maze like levels of FPS past.
hobozero
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(01-07-2016, 10:23 PM)
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SnapMap. I just loving saying it. SnapMap. SNAPMAP.

snapmap
RyudBoy
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(01-07-2016, 10:24 PM)
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Colored keycards and backtracking for secrets. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hurray for secrets. Please make the gameplay good!
bananafactory
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(01-07-2016, 10:25 PM)

Originally Posted by krang

I would hope so. Doom 3 wasn't really Doom.

Yeah. I actually like Doom 3 for what it is, but I like everything I'm hearing about this one
Queen of Hunting
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(01-07-2016, 10:25 PM)
so with doom coming in may etc we can probs guess targets for beth, fallout expansion in fall, and early next year, wolfie new order 2 may next year and maybe a doom expansion, and elder scrolls year after
HStallion
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(01-07-2016, 10:25 PM)
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This is one of those games I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about it. I love the old Doom games and even those like Doom 64 but was not a big fan of Doom 3. I really enjoyed the gory horror atmosphere combined with ass kicking action and the puzzle like layouts of the original games levels.

The new game seems like it will be a lot of fun and has some interesting ideas though I havent touched or seen much of the alpha multiplayer.

That said I think the art style is pretty lame, some of the environments and enemies look ok, but a ton of them look like something I'd find in a lot of other generic sci fi style games.

Everything on the demons looks so sleak and well put together. I loved how in the original games and even Doom 3, it often looked like the cybernetic parts of demons were crudely grafted onto their bodies or in some cases, just rammed into a stump or something. None of it looked clean or well thought out, it looked like chaotic hell demons who just got access to our universe and tech and were just going crazy with it to destroy humanity and take over the world.
potatohead
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(01-07-2016, 10:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by bananafactory

Yeah. I actually like Doom 3 for what it is, but I like everything I'm hearing about this one

Loved DOOM 3 myself too.

Happy to see DOOM rebooted in this way as well though. Love all the DOOM series games really, all have great things about them.

Really glad that id went back to the drawing board with to end up with this showing. A bad game is bad forever, a delayed game might turn out good, and this certainly looks like it's going to turn out good.
Turin Turambar
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(01-07-2016, 10:29 PM)
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BFG and Chainsaw aren't on the weapon wheel since they're used in specific scenarios, Chainsaw is on D-Pad down and BFG is on X. Seems like they're treating the BFG as a panic button.

WTH are they doing with the BFG?!
wwm0nkey
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(01-07-2016, 10:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Omikron

Still not confident. Didn't like the currently released media at all.

Did you see any of the new screens?
Jb
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(01-07-2016, 10:33 PM)
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Biggest issue for me so far is the canned melee animations. But then I also remember having no idea what to think of Wolfenstein TNO before it came out and loving it, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Demon Lizardman
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(01-07-2016, 10:33 PM)

Originally Posted by wwm0nkey

Did you see any of the new screens?

Nope, show them to me
Piston Hyundai
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(01-07-2016, 10:34 PM)
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This sounds exciting, but SnapMap has to be really, really, really good for me to forgive the lack of mod tools.
BigDug13
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(01-07-2016, 10:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cipher Peon

I'm anxious that Doom 4 will be more similar to Doom and Doom 2 instead of Doom 3 (my favorite by a landslide) and this new information didn't do much to calm my fears. Oh well!

Steer clear of this game. They got slammed by Doom fans for Doom 3 not feeling like a Doom game. Sorry if that's your favorite, but Doom 3 is something they're trying to steer as far from as possible.
Akronis
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(01-07-2016, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Piston Hyundai

This sounds exciting, but SnapMap has to be really, really, really good for me to forgive the lack of mod tools.

Unless the map tools are like WorldEdit for Warcraft 3, it will never compare to mod tools.
TheVampire
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(01-07-2016, 10:36 PM)
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So is this just like a different story of Doom 3?

They should have made this a sequel to Doom 3 but on Earth like how Doom1>Doom2 goes
wwm0nkey
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(01-07-2016, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Demon Lizardman

Nope, show them to me

Can't until they are officially released, but you'll probably find them with a quick search on the internet
potatohead
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(01-07-2016, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheVampire

So is this just like a different story of Doom 3?

They should have made this a sequel to Doom 3 but on Earth like how Doom1>Doom2 goes

Could do that with a sequel or expansion to this like The Old Blood.
thehillissilent
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(01-07-2016, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by kinaesthete

Some new info from the article:

  • Namedrops of old Doom WADs followed by statement implying that they won't be releasing mod tools outside of SnapMap because of accessibility consoles. seems like kind of a big fuck you.

This is a big fuck you to PC gamers.
TyrantGuardian
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(01-07-2016, 10:38 PM)
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"Permanent character upgrades that allow you to swap weapons and mantle more quickly, increase ammo and health capacity

Swappable perk "runes", ex. one gives you a stackable temp speed boost after melee kills"


Barf. No thanks. I don't want to be slugging through slow-ass menus when stuff like that could just be either a Backpack pickup found in secret areas or simply there from the beginning (combo system that grants a speed boost etc). Boring and uninspired "me too" game design is not what I want from this game. Rest sounds fine I guess.
Rogue Agent
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(01-07-2016, 10:41 PM)

Originally Posted by potatohead

Archvile?

I think the Archvile only revives other enemies, rather than summon new ones.
GavinUK86
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(01-07-2016, 10:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Demon Lizardman

Nope, show them to me

Originally Posted by wwm0nkey

Can't until they are officially released, but you'll probably find them with a quick search on the internet

At least give him the link.

http://wccftech.com/doom-to-release-...amazon-france/

The new shots are there.
wwm0nkey
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(01-07-2016, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by GavinUK86

At least give him the link.


The new shots are there.

Those are from the digital magazine, we can't post those
kinaesthete
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(01-07-2016, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Akronis

Unless the map tools are like WorldEdit for Warcraft 3, it will never compare to mod tools.

If it's comparable to any existing thing, it's like the map editor from Timesplitters with an admittedly great looking node-based visual scripting tool. So while you can probably do some crazy stuff with it it'll all take place in the rooms that ship with the editor. No custom geometry editor in sight.
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(01-07-2016, 10:49 PM)
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BFG and Chainsaw aren't on the weapon wheel since they're used in specific scenarios, Chainsaw is on D-Pad down and BFG is on X. Seems like they're treating the BFG as a panic button.


"We make a doom game with panic buttons!"




Namedrops of old Doom WADs followed by statement implying that they won't be releasing mod tools outside of SnapMap because of accessibility consoles. seems like kind of a big fuck you.

Good job on killing a community that is keeping doom 1 and 2 alive for 20+ years id.

2blackcats
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(01-07-2016, 10:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rogue Agent

I think the Archvile only revives other enemies, rather than summon new ones.

What do you call that guy that spits out the lost souls?

Revenant? Summoner maybe?
thehillissilent
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(01-07-2016, 10:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by kinaesthete

If it's comparable to any existing thing, it's like the map editor from Timesplitters with an admittedly great looking node-based visual scripting tool. So while you can probably do some crazy stuff with it it'll all take place in the rooms that ship with the editor. No custom geometry editor in sight.

Yup. They also mentioned in another interview about not having any exterior environments in SnapMap. All of them will be interior. It really sucks.
Tainted
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(01-07-2016, 10:50 PM)
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All sounds solid, except for this. Can't wait til Spring

Originally Posted by kinaesthete

  • BFG and Chainsaw aren't on the weapon wheel since they're used in specific scenarios, Chainsaw is on D-Pad down and BFG is on X. Seems like they're treating the BFG as a panic button.

Razzorn34
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(01-07-2016, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jb

Biggest issue for me so far is the canned melee animations. But then I also remember having no idea what to think of Wolfenstein TNO before it came out and loving it, so I'm cautiously optimistic.

Man. It still has those long melee animations that slow down the pacing? Ugh...
DeepEnigma
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(01-07-2016, 10:55 PM)
So ready for this!

Have to pick up Wolfenstein too.
Space A Cobra
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(01-07-2016, 10:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by 2blackcats

What do you call that guy that spits out the lost souls?

Revenant? Summoner maybe?

That was the Pain Elemental.


I'm a bit disappointed the Baron/Hell Knights are still using the Doom 3 melon head design. I preferred the quasi-cow head.

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