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Rumor: Sonic Adventure coming to XBLA
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Wren said:
Three groups of people like Sonic:
1) Oldschool platforming fans. These people want no story, no friends (except for maybe Tails and Knuckles), and games that follow Sonic 2 and Sonic 3.
2) Kids. These people want some story, BADASS AWESOME FRIENDS, and don't really care about the games; Lego game-style button mashing with minor platforming would probably be the ideal gameplay.
3) Sonic Fans. These people have no idea what the fuck they want, love Silver and Shadow and all the other "fun" characters even if they end up incessantly complaining about everything Sonic related.
You can see what a bind Sega is in if they want to sell to all three groups.
Subliminal
Member
Tbh, Calling the SA1 Adventure just Chaos is a understatement
Robotnik wanted to use Chaos, So arguably Robotnik was the villain. Chaos just spiralled out of control
Robotnik wanted to use Chaos, So arguably Robotnik was the villain. Chaos just spiralled out of control
D
Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
Sonic Adventure had the benefit of Sonic's first proper outing in a full-3D world, Mario 64 style. I'm willing to let problems slide. It was an experimental, brave and -- yes -- ambitious game. It was not totally successful, not by a long shot, but there's something 'innocent' about it, in a weird way.dark10x said:
Unleashed had no excuses. It was a poorly made, rushed game that, I'd imagine, very few would defend if it didn't have the Sonic name attached to it and some pretty graphics.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I don't think "Robotnik enlists the help of some powerful ancient force to help his world domination" strays too far from the original formula, but I'll agree that SA2 and 2k6 had needlessly complex plots for a platforming game about a blue hedgehog.Wren said:
..pakbeka..
Member
I might as well just ask it here but back when the Dreamcast was called Katana there was a rumor in a magazine of a Sonic & Knuckles RPG being developed, it was supposed to be a retelling of S3&K as an adventure game or something like that
Was it just wishful thinking from the magazine or was SA really once called Sonic & Knuckles RPG?
It kind of makes sense if you think about, a lot of story elements from SA were ripped directly from S3&K
this was of course at least a year before SA was revealed, which the same magazine said was like "a playable CG":lol
Was it just wishful thinking from the magazine or was SA really once called Sonic & Knuckles RPG?
It kind of makes sense if you think about, a lot of story elements from SA were ripped directly from S3&K
this was of course at least a year before SA was revealed, which the same magazine said was like "a playable CG":lol
DryEyeRelief
Member
Drkirby said:
People who can't recognize the Sonic 1 title screen?
brain_stew
Member
Rez said:
That's nice and all, doesn't change the fact that Unleashed is objectively a much better playing game.
racerx77 said:
Of course.
Fun Factor
Formerly FTWer
Rez said:
Unleashed may have been rushed out (especially in some aspects), but it definitely was NOT poorly made.
If anything it didn't have the Sonic name & was a new IP, no one would be bitching about the action segments & comparing them to every other Sonic game.
RPGCrazied
Member
Not enough people in here wanting Skies of Arcadia makes me sad. lol
Thats one awesome RPG, id pay 30-40$ for that.. specially with some achievements.. don't nerf the music this time! the cube version was hit pretty hard.
Thats one awesome RPG, id pay 30-40$ for that.. specially with some achievements.. don't nerf the music this time! the cube version was hit pretty hard.
brain_stew
Member
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
Why would you need to buy a Dreamcast anyway? For $5 you could have had a superior 60fps any time you'd have liked within the last 5+ years. Sonic Adventure will play on any piece of crap PC at 60fps just fine.
Azure Dream
Member
brain_stew said:
I thought the PC version was missing some of the effects, namely the water (which could have been the cause of the GC version's extra slowdown in some spots).
Here's a weird thought for you: all the voice files are stored externally in the PC version of SADX. Really easy to change out, if memory serves. Do you think Sega would redub the game with the current voice cast to avoid any concerns of paying the old cast (even though they probably flat-out own that voicework), while simultaneously putting a "fresh" spin on the game?
There would be some benefits ("Watch out, you're going to crash AAAAAAH."), some losses (Deem Bristow). It's unlikely they'd do it, but it's not impossible, and unlike things like changing animations or adding missions, it wouldn't be very hard to implement.
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
Stumpokapow said:
What about the people, like me, who only really enjoyed Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 and are waiting on a true successor to those?
brain_stew
Member
Kulock said:
Any potential odd missing water effect (no idea if there is but this XBLA release will be ported from the PC, so it'll be missing there as well) pales in comparison to the huge and actually worthwile improvement the visuals receive from running at 60fps in high resolution with gobs of AA and AF.
I AM JOHN!
Banned
This might surprise you, but there are many people who think Unleashed is poorly made, regardless of whether or not it can compare to the classic Sonics and the gameplay in them. And you know why? Because it is.FTWer said:
riceandbeans
Member
Stumpokapow said:
I call bullshit. You can still like Sonic and have common sense at the same time... it's just extremely rare. They need to do a Nintendo, go into obscurity, tune everyone out, and focus on quality.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
It dawned on me. More than any Dreamcast game, I think the one post-16bit Sega game I'd like to see on XBLA is NiGHTS. NiGHTS could also deftly avoid the situation of "the Saturn is difficult to emulate" seeing as Sega released a PS2 port of NiGHTS in Japan three or four years ago (right before the PS3 launched). The source code for that is undoubtedly still kicking around. It has to be!
NiGHTS is the perfect fit for XBLA; it is a game tailored for pick-up-and play mechanics and centers around high scores and leaderboards.
If the NiGHTS community needs to be petitioning for NiGHTS to be in something, it really should be this.
NiGHTS is the perfect fit for XBLA; it is a game tailored for pick-up-and play mechanics and centers around high scores and leaderboards.
If the NiGHTS community needs to be petitioning for NiGHTS to be in something, it really should be this.
intheinbetween
Member
it seems to suffer noticeable slowdowns even in the cutscenes and it runs @ 30fps
brain_stew
Member
30fps with slowdown!? :lol
I'll stick to my 60fps super sampled PC version, thanks. How the hell did they get it to perform so poorly? Definitely seems like a straight PC port gone horribly wrong.
I'll stick to my 60fps super sampled PC version, thanks. How the hell did they get it to perform so poorly? Definitely seems like a straight PC port gone horribly wrong.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Wait wait wait, what's this about DC games being put up on PSN? Are they up on the debug PSN right now? what games are up!?
Sod Sonic Adventure, I want Crazy Taxi!
Sod Sonic Adventure, I want Crazy Taxi!
brain_stew
Member
Nuclear Muffin said:
These aren't DC games. They're cheap PC ports.
Diablohead
Member
Code was shit enough on cube, porting that to pc and then to 360 I am not surprised.brain_stew said:
I will buy it for cheap anyway to add to my xbox live sonic collection of games but I was expecting nothing but cube performance which was 60 with major 30fps drops...
Shame they didn't do a FoV change with the camera for in-game to make it widescreen, might cock up some cut scenes, oh what am I saying sega won't spend more then a few lunch breaks on this port.
*edit* no FSAA at all? seriously? oh come on sega I would think you could make this game run ok with some anti analysing.
intheinbetween
Member
Nuclear Muffin said:
those screens were taken from the XBLA version
brain_stew
Member
Diablohead said:
The thing is the PC version runs fine enough for what it is, a system much less capable than the 360 will manage to run it at a constant 60fps no bother. You'd have to be going seriously out of your way to get performance this bad.
The game has very agressive popin, and when you enable widescreen on an emulated DC version it'll be glitchy as hell with stuff popping in all over the place. In other words, adding in widescreen would have took some amount of effort, so it had no chance of making it into this port.
Subliminal
Member
How do you Get these shots?
APZonerunner
Member
Holy people abusing PartnerNet accounts Batman, those leaks look horrible!
Diablohead
Member
Looking at those screens more, I an wondering if they are somehow emulating the game, because it's in a window with trim and I would think they are going to allow window resizing. If they ported this over would they not just make it run 4:3 with black/detailed bars on the side only? doesn't feel right.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Diablohead said:
Nah, its gotta be a port of the PC version. SADX was never released for DC and it seems to be missing the GCN exclusive visual effects (plus emulating the GCN would be very hard to pull off and Nintendo would never allow it to happen anyway)
Porting the PC version is much much easier (yet it looks like Sega have managed to screw up a trivial port anyway :lol)
intheinbetween
Member
sorry guys I had to take away the screens
Diablohead
Member
No surprise :lol least we had a peekintheinbetween said:
intheinbetween
Member
well, I tried my best 
brain_stew
Member
intheinbetween said:
Well I haven't signed any NDA, so I don't! :lol :lol
Shots from the PC version for reference (this is definitely a direct port):
This of course runs at a perfect 60fps all the time (making it the ultimate version) even with bags of supersampling.
strikeselect
You like me, you really really like me!
Question. What's the difference between the DX version and the original Dreamcast Sonic Adventure?
I never played DX, only the OG on Dreamcast.
I never played DX, only the OG on Dreamcast.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Cerrius said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Adventure#Sonic_Adventure_DX:_Director.27s_Cut
and wow @ SA on XBL. Will it be up on PSN too?
PS: brain stew, what demonic trickery did you perform to get such graphics in SA? :O
brain_stew
Member
Here's a PC screen at "Xbox quality" taken at the the same spot as those Partnernet leaked pics. Should help confirm it is indeed a direct PC port:
Diablohead
Member
I don't remember everything but player models improved (look worse to me), gamegear roms to unlock, some extra missions tackled on, 30 more emblems (I think) and some other things, a few texture adjustments etc.Cerrius said:
BlazeHedgehog
Member
640x480 with a border? :lol
This is a Backbone port, right? It has to be. Even on my PC, a PC that can at times struggle to run TF2 on "Low" settings, can run Sonic Adventure DX at this resolution, locked at 60fps:
(click to enlarge)
Holy shit, Sega. This is a new level of lazy.
This is a Backbone port, right? It has to be. Even on my PC, a PC that can at times struggle to run TF2 on "Low" settings, can run Sonic Adventure DX at this resolution, locked at 60fps:
(click to enlarge)
Holy shit, Sega. This is a new level of lazy.
brain_stew
Member
Sega1991 said:
Seriously, I just can't understand how they can get such shit performance out of even the laziest straight PC port. They must be going out of their way to wreck performance, as they're making Xenos perform worse than Intel integrated graphics, that's a whole new level of absysmal.
Edit:
Wait, how are you getting widescreen in those shots? Is there some hack/mod that I'm unaware of?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
What the fuck is this? It was made by the same team that did Sonic on GBA?
Diablohead
Member
Did the pc (or cube) version fix the glitch with beating sonic's game without the charge bracelet, beat everyone else
and then playing the extra stage grab the bracelet to make the game save?
I want to do that on this version for the lulz.
to unlock super sonic
I want to do that on this version for the lulz.