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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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Why not?
I suppose, but I still highly doubt it. I mean, why would they be that terrified of VR? It's unlikely that they were planning to go above $350, and I honestly don't think that even a $200 system could be positioned in such a way. You're also saying that this is a factor in an internal delay, and based on what LCGeek said about the CPU they may have still had a system with current-gen power as recently as last month. I think that you're just putting a ridiculously overblown amount of stock into how big first-gen VR will be, especially since the two most important headsets have already been released. There's no way that Nintendo basically redid everything just because of VR. Again, mobile didn't affect their 3DS plans four years after the release of the iPhone, so why would VR be enough to force them to start from scratch based on how big it might be?
JB2448
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Because until a game is on shelves/online storefronts, problems can arise. Plans can change, people or companies could die or go belly up, and many other things can happen to render a product delayed or even cancelled.
It's the same problem people faced buying a PlayStation 3 for Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Kingdom Hearts III.
I would propose this isn't a concern if you don't actually have much in the way of support.
The PS4 and Xbox One had to make it out in Fall 2013 to keep their partners happy even though the Xbox One wasn't ready with its core operating system and Sony didn't have much in the way of first party software, but I'm not convinced anyone is even remotely perturbed about the NX not showing up.
I don't see how people can interpret this news in any positive way. It is one thing to delay the release of NX till next year, but to not even reveal it on gaming's biggest stage is just worrying. Please don't tell me that Nintendo is worried that other companies will steal their idea. That is pure nonsense. Sony is busy promoting their VR and PS4K, and same thing with Microsoft. The fact that Nintendo even has a bigger booth (or about the same) than previous years is a sign that they had big plans but something changed. I don't believe for a second that their plan all along was just to come to E3 bringing only Zelda Wii U. No freaking way....
I wonder what happened....
I wonder what happened....
Astral Dog
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Dont ever become a Square Enix fan
Astral Dog
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Does it even matter? The Wii U was announced at E3 the year before it launched and look how that turned out.
Plinko
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Consoles play video games. They're all toys.
SneakersSO
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What? Nintendo's own wording refers to this as a delay, specifically because they wanted to allow more time for the software to mature. We're not the ones calling it a delay; Nintendo is!
The fans are just disappointed and I don't blame them one bit. I'm pretty much over it, but I still feel somewhat bummed that we have to wait longer for NX details, the actual launch of the platform and Zelda.
Pancake Mix
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That doesn't make Nintendo immune from criticism for delaying the game solely for NX, and releasing a console for which they did not make a single new (exclusive) 3D Zelda title.
There's this weird tendency in this thread for people to say "it's your fault" when actually...it's not. Nintendo needs early adopters and people who buy into games with no release dates just like Sony and Microsoft do. Blaming someone for doing what Nintendo wants and then feeling left out afterwards when they don't get a new 3D Zelda between 2011 and 2017 exclusively so it can launch with the NEXT system is absurd. Fans like that are a lot more valuable than the "I'll buy it when it's $99 and comes with three games" crowd.
You should get vetted by a mod and see if you can make a new thread. Anything that affects yields like that is pretty interesting imo.
Not Neo? So Xbox OnePointFive?
LapinAgile
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I don't know how much is on Nintendo's end but a friend of mine works for a processing plant manufacturing the new AMD chips and there was some kind of major disconnect with the slide diagrams for NX and another upcoming console upgrade (not NEO). Which had an immediate impact on their yield for those parts/
GhostTrick
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Sure, but can you realize that Wii U will be the only Nintendo console without an exclusive Zelda game ? Even though TP released on both Wii and GC... GC still had its Zelda, with Wind Waker. You shouldn't buy any console for one game, but let's be honest, before Wii U got released, if I ever told you it wouldn't have its own Zelda, would you believe it ? I don't think so. Which means people have expectations that come with a brand.
LapinAgile
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I literally am parsing this from a group text. My buddy works IT for a chip plant in Upstate NY. He claims (and I have zero reason to not believe him) that there is concurrent production happening for NX and a MS thing, I have no specs or details other than there was mix up between which slides were for which and the ones made for NX were intended for an "xbox one upgrade"
Imperfected
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Of course, why didn't we see it? NX. The Nintendo X-Box.
I'm kidding. Please don't actually speculate on this.
Dark Cloud
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Nobody has any clue what the NX is. Lol
ThisGuy
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Oh lol, well that explains why my searches usually lead to more questions.
gamerMan
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Nintendo did say they are going to be showing the NX this year just not at E3. Maybe they felt it would be better to showcase the product at their own event much like Apple. It makes a lot of sense since they won't be competing with other gaming platforms. So when are they going to show it? Is it just going to be in a Nintendo Direct or are they going to create a public event of their own?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Probably something like that Fall Event for the Wii U in New York where Trinen demoed Metroid Blast and they showed Bayonetta briefly.
zelda wii u was first shown at e3 2014. it was first discussed in january 2013 though.
also, zelda wii u is still coming out for wii u. if you bought a system based on one game you saw in 2014 or heard about in 2013 (when 2015 was the original release date and thus 18-36 months away), then that's your own fault.
Dark Cloud
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We're all assuming it's a console atleast. What else there is to it is up in the air.
eighty(one)
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Who knows what Nintendo are cooking up?
No one really.
I'm really hoping they pull an Apple.
Reveal huge and then, having had time to manufacture, release shortly after the reveal announcement - when the announce hype is hot.
There were rumors flying around (a while back on GAF about manufacture) that this thing is expected to sell millions, so an Apple-esque reveal and launch it shortly after - might be ideal.
Maybe being unique, they'll do some huge CES blowout?
Could be anything.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Whether they do or not doesn't mean anything. The fact is, they're passing on another avenue to showcase, and crunching any hype build-up time into a shorter time frame.
Skipping E3 for NX is just one less event for them to build momentum for the platform. That's never good. Especially not good when that one less event is the biggest event in the gaming industry.
Shorter isn't really a bad thing though. Having it out there for too long is usually not good, Wii U in particular was shown way too early. 6-9 months is a pretty good frame for a console as such E3 is better timing for a fall launch than a March launch. For other types of hardware 3 months is like the maximum.
Deputy Moonman
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Nintendo's 3rd party support is terrible, which means they have to rely on their 1st party games to sell consoles. You're telling me that after it was announced and shown to the public, it was wrong of me to assume there wouldn't be at least one core Zelda game, one of nintendo's largest selling franchises outside of Mario, exclusive to the Wii U? If my memory serves me correctly, this will be the first time that's ever happened in the history of nintendo consoles. And yes I'll be upset when a game is slated for 2015 and doesn't get released until 2017. That's a pretty normal reaction lol.
Pokemaniac
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If true, this could definitely be a contributing factor. I could definitely see production issues now causing a domino effect that would cause a delayed reveal and launch.
Spyder_Monkey
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Reality hit like a brick wall.
Pokemaniac
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This also seems potentially thread-worthy even just with those details. You should consider reaching out to a mod for verification.
14nm here we go.
i think it's unreasonable to buy a console solely for unreleased stuff and then get angry when it eventually does get released because it's not exclusive.
i recommend buying things for stuff that's already out. make an informed decision. that way when one or two things becomes an inconvenience, it's not a big deal. i tend to only buy platforms when there's 3-5 games i have a really good feeling i'd like. i didn't get a wii u or vita at launch, but when i got them, i felt i got my money's worth right away. if i bought a ps4 in 2013 because of mirror's edge, final fantasy versus xiii, and kingdom hearts 3, i'd have no one but myself to blame for being disappointed in the system in 2016.
Last Guardian
Herb Alpert
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I hope so. A big reveal with a lot of games.
Though I don't expect anything these days and consider the most unlikely might happen with NX.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Damn, what the hell?
I doubt the ps4k factors into even one iota of Nintendo's plans and I'm a little confused as to why so many people have suggested this as a possibility.
w-what does that mean
They hired the same guy.
wait a second...what does this actually mean?
Also if that info is true, Nintendo is going to be super pissed. SUPER PISSED. And there would be major repurcusions to the production group or AMD.
My naive guess would be that the NX and XBone2 are on a similar production line but someone fucked up really badly and the wrong item was produced for Nintendo.
If it is 14nm... That's a double fuck up because yields were already low.
My naive guess would be that the NX and XBone2 are on a similar production line but someone fucked up really badly and the wrong item was produced for Nintendo.
If it is 14nm... That's a double fuck up because yields were already low.
Milly Osworth
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Ahhhhh 7-8 months of rumours ahead.
Q_Q
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Ohh boy...if that´s true Kimishima is in Rambo-Mode xD
It's potentially a major fuck up that has impacted major fiscal, retail, and development plans as well as cost Nintendo a holiday season.
This isn't Rambo mode. This would be litigous rage.
And I doubt anyone is laughing. If true, I wonder what sort of wringing and deals Nintendo could potentially gain from this.
Pokemaniac
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Yeah, if this is really what happened, then they fscked up, badly. Also might help explain why devkits are seemingly still so scarce.
So it's all Microsoft's fault!
Dead_Pixel
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The NX will be at E3 then! In the form of the Xbox 1.5!
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