melonrabbit
Member
Format messed up.
Answers to your questions, Royal
Splinter and Sophia, Yes and Yes.
Answers to your questions, Royal
Splinter and Sophia, Yes and Yes.
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Danny Phantom Mafia |OT| Your lynch doesn't stand a ghost of a chance!
- Thread starter Terrabyte20xx
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I'm willing to believe you if no one counter claims. Blarg was right the whole time!
The night Sophia died?
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
VOTE TALLY:
*splinter (2)
royal_flush 1651
karkador 1713
karkador (2)
*splinter 1785
starsketch 1787
starsketch (0)
melonrabbit (0)
cabot (0)
6 to reach majority
DAY 6 ENDS:
Royal_Flush
Member
Do not believe Splinter (or Blarg, for that matter). Kark is not Scum. It wouldn't make any sense. I'm like 95% sure that we lose the game if we lynch Kark today. If people insist that we lynch somebody else than Splinter how about we go with literally anybody else non-confirmed player? I don't care. Ultron, gryvan, Matt Attack, whatever. All these people kept a low profile and two of them have to be Scum.
melonrabbit, why did you give out only two items and why did you keep them until so late into the game?
melonrabbit, why did you give out only two items and why did you keep them until so late into the game?
Matt Attack
Member
Your read of me had actually slipped my mind for a while. We ended up having a few people question why you town read me, so by the time that it did start coming up again, I didn't feel the need to reiterate the question. And I do trust you. I pretty strongly felt kingkitty was town, and that read has carried over to you. Since joining I think you've done pretty well, so it hasn't too hard for me to maintain that town read. Melon seems to be confirming that she gave you an item, so now I definitely don't have much reason to doubt that you're making that claim up now (unless you're scum partners, which I don't feel is particularly likely- I am town reading melon too).
I also want to say that I have no idea what the heck is going on with Kark and SS right now. If SS really is DP (despite saying she is not), this seems like it's a really risky gambit for them to have played with the deadline approaching. If she's telling the truth and she's not DP, then Kark's behavior makes even less sense. I'm trying to think of what a scumKark or townKark could gain from this and I'm mostly drawing a blank (if he's town he could be trying to bait scum's kill in SS's direction, and if he's scum he could be trying to justify why she might end up dying??). And in any case, regardless of whether SS is town or scum, DP or not, connected to him or not, her response (and subsequent doubling down) to Darryl calling her DP makes him seem really suspicious. Why would a team of them (or even Kark on his own) try something like this late in the day, creating a very real chance for Kark to get lynched? If there's a last minute "Gotcha!" from them, then that seems like a recipe for us turboing somebody else really quickly.
StarSketch
Banned
That's the thing though, why me? Why would DP say he's me? Why hasn't DP told Kark he screwed up? If he's using my name for whatever reason he can at least tell Kark "Yo, I lied"
If I'm being used as bait, I don't quite see how that helps town, because we'll still lose a townie off this.
Royal_Flush
Member
Maybe Kark knows very well who DP is and set you up as NK bait? So they kill another unconfirmed person instead of one of our confirmed Townies or the real DP? And the real DP knows what's going on?
I can't see DP being killed over a confirmed town. Anonymous vote isn't a huge deal at this point, confirmed townies are a bigger threat to scum.
Royal_Flush
Member
Did you tell this your scumbuddies? Because Rats wasn't confirmed.
Thoughts, anyone? Never mind my dodgy gut, this is damning evidence right here.
On top of the vote data (that speaks for itself), Kark tried to convince people to look at the people voting off-Blarg as much as voting on him. I think Stan was right to call this out as subtly moving the conversation away from Blarg voters (which we now know includes the entire scum team).
A switcher not only protects people but can also redirect the kill back onto scum. There was also a small pool of confirmed for scum/Rats to play chicken with. Don't pretend that's even close to the same thing.
First of all, let's not give in to these "sky is falling" theories about the game.
DP is in the game, I know who it is. It was not CornBurrito. Darryl had been operating on this knowledge since D1, when he wielded it against a confirmed mafia, TheWorthyEdge. It would still make sense for DP to counterclaim me, but they haven't, and they wont.
So the facts of the game are, I know who DP is, and I used that knowledge to give StarSketch and *Splinter a test.
DP is in the game, I know who it is. It was not CornBurrito. Darryl had been operating on this knowledge since D1, when he wielded it against a confirmed mafia, TheWorthyEdge. It would still make sense for DP to counterclaim me, but they haven't, and they wont.
So the facts of the game are, I know who DP is, and I used that knowledge to give StarSketch and *Splinter a test.
Royal_Flush
Member
You're going all in with that Kark thing, huh? It won't work, buddy. I trust my fellow Townies to not vote for Kark.
At least 1 of gryvan/Matt/Ultron/Sketch is town.
0 of Kark is town.
He's literally just running down the clock at this point. I thought he'd at least have claimed DP by now, but he's not even doing that while we still have time to pick it apart.
Royal_Flush
Member
You're wrong. Kark is Town. Kark is not DP.
Are you claiming DP? How can you still believe this mess of a claim and ignore the vote record?
StarSketch
Banned
I have no idea what to do anymore
Scum Kark: could have been using my name to draw attention to me, and then lie tomorrow saying it was scum bait the entire time when I 'miraculously' don't get NK'd
Town Kark: could be using me as NK bait because of course he wasn't going to reveal the real DP's identity and would rather a unconfirmed player go down instead
Scum Kark: could have been using my name to draw attention to me, and then lie tomorrow saying it was scum bait the entire time when I 'miraculously' don't get NK'd
Town Kark: could be using me as NK bait because of course he wasn't going to reveal the real DP's identity and would rather a unconfirmed player go down instead
StarSketch
Banned
No, Kark's not DP. His Jazz claim draws attention to him, and makes him slight NK bait.
Flush, not Kark.
Also I think Kark's claim was after cop targets were revealed, and Kark's been a suspect forever. He was never at risk of NK
Royal_Flush
Member
I'm not allowed to claim anything. But I trust Kark. And I was confirmed as Town by our Cop. Draw the conclusions yourself.
Well at least you're thinking now. Second one is whre the money is, but the first theory isn't even bad. But haven't you been kind of on the chopping block since D1? Why would he choose you instead of a less endangered unconfirmed Townie?
Occam's razor? Why would scum Kark play like this? Why haven't DP counter claimed? DP can't have been Corn because we didn't have an anonymous vote.
StarSketch
Banned
Both me and flush appear to have misread your post.
StarSketch's test was this - if I named her as Danny Phantom, would she go along with it, or would she reject it?
We can make a inference about her alignment based on her reaction.
StarSketch, who only antagonized Darryl once (that I can see right now) and who hasn't really antagonized my claims as DP's friend, seemed like someone who believes that I'm telling the truth about my role, and Danny Phantom.
So I tried to hand her the baton, and it seemed like she almost went along with it - then this happened:
I was taken aback by the reasoning, because it's a pretty sharp contradiction that doesn't make sense.
The whole game I've been playing has been "as a protective measure for whoever the actual DP is". Clearly, Town trusts me enough to demand hard proof, and DP trusts me enough to not shut it down. If DP didn't claim when I was doing it, why would they claim when I'm handing the baton to you?
I actually don't think that statement was made with the interest of "protecting the actual DP" at all.
So it makes me think:
There's an advantage to being declared as Danny Phantom. Nobody is going to lynch you. They'll sooner lynch me to verify that they shouldn't lynch whoever I name.
It's a really sweet deal for a mafia player to be 'unlynchable' - almost too sweet. They accept the DP name, but then mafia doesn't kill them at night. Then it becomes obvious that something is wrong.
If StarSketch is mafia, she probably didn't have anyone to consult right at that moment, and in that moment when I named her, she searched and flopped around for what the "proper" response should have been. She agreed, then tried to throw me under the bus....then relented, but then now again, under the bus.
Not agreeing is one thing, but trying to throw me under the bus for it is what pushes my gut to think this is a mafia reaction. Especially now that "the cavalry" has certainly arrived in their chat to get the story straight.
We can make a inference about her alignment based on her reaction.
StarSketch, who only antagonized Darryl once (that I can see right now) and who hasn't really antagonized my claims as DP's friend, seemed like someone who believes that I'm telling the truth about my role, and Danny Phantom.
So I tried to hand her the baton, and it seemed like she almost went along with it - then this happened:
I was taken aback by the reasoning, because it's a pretty sharp contradiction that doesn't make sense.
The whole game I've been playing has been "as a protective measure for whoever the actual DP is". Clearly, Town trusts me enough to demand hard proof, and DP trusts me enough to not shut it down. If DP didn't claim when I was doing it, why would they claim when I'm handing the baton to you?
I actually don't think that statement was made with the interest of "protecting the actual DP" at all.
So it makes me think:
There's an advantage to being declared as Danny Phantom. Nobody is going to lynch you. They'll sooner lynch me to verify that they shouldn't lynch whoever I name.
It's a really sweet deal for a mafia player to be 'unlynchable' - almost too sweet. They accept the DP name, but then mafia doesn't kill them at night. Then it becomes obvious that something is wrong.
If StarSketch is mafia, she probably didn't have anyone to consult right at that moment, and in that moment when I named her, she searched and flopped around for what the "proper" response should have been. She agreed, then tried to throw me under the bus....then relented, but then now again, under the bus.
Not agreeing is one thing, but trying to throw me under the bus for it is what pushes my gut to think this is a mafia reaction. Especially now that "the cavalry" has certainly arrived in their chat to get the story straight.
StarSketch
Banned
unvote
StarSketch
Banned
Damn I knew I should have checked thread before posting
Well there was definitely a lot of flailing, which was why my response was ambiguous. But that was not because 'there was no one in scum chat' but because Town obviously doesn't have a chat :/
I don't know if what I did was the right move or not. But it's what MY gut was saying.
YesNOnoNOYes
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VOTE TALLY:
*splinter (2)
royal_flush 1651
karkador 1713
karkador (1)
*splinter 1785
cabot (0)
starsketch (0)
melonrabbit (0)
6 to reach majority
DAY 6 ENDS:
StarSketch
Banned
In case reading through my last few posts didn't clue you in, there are a lot of possibilities for what could be happening, and a lot of ways this claim could go wrong.
"Of course it was a test."
Excuse me for thinking you were either genuinely confused about DP's identity last night or playing a scum gambit.
Guess I was so desperate to get a lead on something I started tunneling....
"Of course it was a test."
Excuse me for thinking you were either genuinely confused about DP's identity last night or playing a scum gambit.
Guess I was so desperate to get a lead on something I started tunneling....
Royal_Flush
Member
Fun fact: That was 3 pages ago. Who could have predicted that, lol.
StarSketch
Banned
You're the only person trying to get DP out. I know the anon vote means little at this point but trying to get a confirmed townie out in the open is pretty scummy.
vote: Splinter*
StarSketch
Banned
vote: *Splinter
Err, no it isnt
StarSketch
Banned
That's it I need a break from the thread I'm starting to not think again
unvote
unvote
I'll do that as soon as you give me a single reason to do so
Because an aexplanation maybe convinces me you're not making things up, and there's really more power in establishing facts at this point than in you playing with toys
Bullshit. There's nothing "convincing" about knowing exactly what this does. Now that melon has revealed scum haven't had one, there is even less reason to talk about it.
So you're claiming melon knows who the scum players are?
I HAVE AN ITEM
IT DOES A THING
IF KNOWLEDGE OF "THING" WAS OF ANY USE OR RELEVANCE TO TOWN I'D HAVE REVEALED IT IN MY FIRST POST OF THE DAY
ITS NOT, SO I MADE IT IMMEDIATELY CLEAR THAT CONVERSATION IN THAT DIRECTION WOULD NOT GO ANYWHERE
YOU ARE A TIME WASTER
Melon gave her targets, I assumed she gave all of them but that's a fair point. She needs to give all her targets if she hasnt done so already
Huh?
Received it at the start of this day phase. What are you talking about now?