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John
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(07-22-2010, 03:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Okay just want some quick feedback. I was messing around and came up with this. I just want to know if it's worth continuing and finishing, otherwise I'll just scrap it.

http://www.box.net/shared/2ozbc7dsjh

It's good up until the horn melody comes in, I think.
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I guess we're being langdell'd:


http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, lol at the Bioshock mention (the page is hosting a photoshop made by someone).

How the hell are we violating Grimoire RPG's trademark. You have to be kidding me :lol
Apoc29
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(07-22-2010, 05:18 PM)
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I can't find anything on Grimoire RPG other than this, and the brand seems to be called "Golden Era Games". Hey if you want to get some infringement action, why don't you bug these guys: http://www.darkgrimoire.com/contact.php
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 05:36 PM)
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Yeah same here, I had a hard time finding anything to do with 'Grimoire RPG'. Some guy could just be messing with us for the hell of it.
rSpooky
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(07-22-2010, 05:43 PM)
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Wel there is this : http://darkgrimoire.com/

But!!

grimoire - 1 dictionary result
grimoire

noun
a manual of black magic (for invoking spirits and demons)
WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
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for GAF we have permision
and the bioshock etc. stuff is all fair use act.

I am not worried, and if not someone messing with us I would love to return the favor to them and put in a counter suit for incomprable damages they did to our game development process. ;)
Xater
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(07-22-2010, 05:55 PM)

Originally Posted by rSpooky

Wel there is this : http://darkgrimoire.com/

But!!



for GAF we have permision
and the bioshock etc. stuff is all fair use act.

I am not worried, and if not someone messing with us I would love to return the favor to them and put in a counter suit for incomprable damages they did to our game development process. ;)

Yeah I don't see the problem either. Grimoire is a normal word and it's not like that is the only part o the name. :lol

I just took a look into the forums of this company which is of course empty. There are only some rules ignoring all the typos ad stuff I think we are dealing with some real pros here...

Anyone who is suspected to be from RPGCodex or a regular poster on RPGCodex or has a recognized user name from RPGCodex will be banned outright permanently from posting to this forum. No exceptions to this rule.

:lol :lol :lol
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 06:58 PM)
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Alright I made a few changes, but it's still far from done. Although I'm liking how it sounds a lot better now. I cranked up the guitar, made some other minor adjustments and added a part near the end. Opinions?

http://www.box.net/shared/6h5mmz6q3m
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 07:36 PM)
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Apparently this claim comes from Grimoire Roleplaying Systems, some indie developer (I think? they have no online presence) whose website was supposedly a page on a domain that's now expired. I can't find anything about them anywhere.
The fact it's just an edit to a wiki (something anyone can do), with no contact information whatsoever, doesn't look exactly like anything serious... but honestly you never know.
V_Ben
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(07-22-2010, 07:42 PM)
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whoa. this certainly is a crazy thing. Sounds fishy to me :lol
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 07:43 PM)
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Yeah but we aren't infringing anything...
V_Ben
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(07-22-2010, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Yeah but we aren't infringing anything...

thats why it's fishy :lol
bistromathics
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(07-22-2010, 07:44 PM)
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woww :lol
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 07:58 PM)
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Of course we're not infringing anything.

1. The names are very different, the only thing in common is a common word that's just a part of both names Should we sue EA because it's using vowels that are in Grimoire Assembly Forge then?
2. The trademark was apparently filed in Australia (but I can't find it anywhere), we're technically US based (hence the press releases from Cleveland) and the official website is hosted in Italy. No relationship with Australia whatsoever.
3. This company has no online presence. No one could possibly have ever heard of them, so the alleged infringement can't be intentional.
Sill4
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(07-22-2010, 08:56 PM)
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Who the fuck are they going to sue anyways? I'll give them all three of my dollars to drop the case.
bistromathics
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(07-22-2010, 09:55 PM)
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who all is heading up QA again? I've set up a proper 'bugzilla' bug tracker on some remote server space I have. It could be more convenient than using a google doc spreadsheet...it's got a lot of fields and junk we don't need, but the tracking and commenting and logging and attaching and assigning and resolving by user would come in handy

login required is turned off atm so you can check it out without making an account (click 'browse' in the page header). and i can hand over admin account to you guys easily...i've never run one of these before so I don't really know what i'm doin here, just thought I'd give it a shot, lol

http://standard-error.com/bugzilla-3.6.1
cooljeanius
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(07-22-2010, 11:08 PM)
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This infringement thing reminds me of a few things:
1. What happened to the IP lawyers we had for our team?
2. The wiki needs updating. Maybe I'll do it once this round of QA ends...
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 11:22 PM)
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Yeah, did anyone have the Wiki backed up? We need to change it back.
cooljeanius
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(07-22-2010, 11:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Yeah, did anyone have the Wiki backed up? We need to change it back.

Normally Wikis have history for easy reversion to previous versions.
Danthrax
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(07-22-2010, 11:48 PM)
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Chill the fuck out people holy shit

Look, this guy started e-mailing us at the press account a couple weeks ago. Schuelma and I have been discussing the situation. We've determined he doesn't have a valid claim on us for a variety of reasons.

This is the e-mail I just sent to him:

Originally Posted by me

Cleve,

Firstly, you cannot copyright a name. A name, such as "Grimoire Systems" or "Grimoire Assembly Forge," is trademarked. Only ideas or specific products are copyrighted.

Secondly, to prove a trademark violation, you must show that damages have been done to you. I did a Google search for the word "grimoire" and did not find your website, grimoiresystems.com, within the first 30 pages of the search results. I did, however, find our own website, grimoireassemblyforge.com, on the fifth page, which shows that we have more mindshare than you and that your site would cause confusion with our own, not the other way around. Furthermore, your website does not identify your company as Grimoire Systems at all — rather, you seem to identify it as "Golden Era Games," so visitors to that site would not associate the name "Grimoire Systems" with your game.

In short, people who see the word "grimoire" in the vein of computer games will not likely associate it with you and what you're doing.

Thirdly, "Grimoire Assembly Forge" is not a real company. It's what we named our development group — it's essentially a club name. We have not incorporated ourselves and none of us are getting paid. You cannot sue a group that is not formally incorporated. Furthermore, Dudebro™ II, the game we are creating, will be released for free on the Internet. It will not be sold in any physical store and we won't charge money for it. The game will not compete with yours any more than any other free, independently developed game would.

Please stop harassing us through this e-mail address and stop vandalizing our wikia page.

Thank you.


So be cool, guys, I have the situation under control. I've known about it, I've looked into it, I researched it and I've responded to it. Dudebro™ development continues!

<3 kthxbai



Originally Posted by whitehawk

Yeah, did anyone have the Wiki backed up? We need to change it back.

Yeah I just fixed it a few minutes ago.
Jocchan
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(07-23-2010, 12:06 AM)
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Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.
Danthrax
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(07-23-2010, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.

That's not the vandalization I meant. I meant Cleve deleting the entire front page of the wikia and posting that copyright violation message in large font.

I restored the version with your "outdated" message, plus my own addition pointing people to the website.
schuelma
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(07-23-2010, 01:18 AM)
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Yes, people should relax. If anyone is interested, read this overview..should put any concerns at ease.
Danthrax
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(07-23-2010, 03:26 AM)
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If you want to help:
1. Follow this FAQ: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcs6hh5g_23cgnp39cs
2. PM Danthrax your e-mail to be added to the staff list, Dropbox and the Google Waves
3. Contact your team lead to get assignments
4. Make sure you keep following the waves, this thread, and read the GDD
5. Remember that no one will PM you asking to do X or Y (we're too many), if you need assignments/feedback/direction/info/a beer/whatever just PM your lead
6. Use the IRC channel (more details below) to stay in touch with the team!!!
7. ???
8. PROFIT!



Useful links:
Sign-up FAQ: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcs6hh5g_23cgnp39cs
Dudebro Game Design Document: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcs6hh5g_8dv7w2pfm
Dudebro official website: http://www.grimoireassemblyforge.com/dudebro/
Dudebro Wiki: http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
CafePress Store: http://www.cafepress.com/dudebro2



And CHECK YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES because I or another Dudebro volunteer may have PMed you about something important!



IRC details:
server: irc.gamecubecafe.com
channel: #dudebro



thank you for your attention and have a fantastic day!
Man, trouble makers... :/

Hopefully I get to contribute more stuff soon, I'm loaded with school work (programming, exams, papers).
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 08:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Chill the fuck out people holy shit

Pretty sure most of our replies were more "haha" than "GRRRR" so this isn't needed :D

Originally Posted by Jocchan

Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.

Many people who don't know about Gaf or the game could find it through Wiki. We need people for crossreferencing Dudebro with similar topics, imo.
Xater
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(07-23-2010, 08:58 AM)

Originally Posted by Danthrax

That's not the vandalization I meant. I meant Cleve deleting the entire front page of the wikia and posting that copyright violation message in large font.

Well that's mature. :lol
Drkirby
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(07-23-2010, 09:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I guess we're being langdell'd:


http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, lol at the Bioshock mention (the page is hosting a photoshop made by someone).

Yeah, there is only a single trademark in the entire Australian Trademark database with the word GRIMOIRE, which is for the subtitle of Final Fantasy Tactics A2.

They are lying, or forgot to actually trademark their name.

But I did find something the company made, they are credited with midi on this site, saying they created it in 1996:
http://www.faqs.org/copyright/the-am...rth-hall-solo/

Yeah, you are being langdell'd

Found this here, so they seem like the exsisted at one time at least:

Computer game graphics
Grimoire Roleplaying Systems
(Arts and Crafts industry)
January 1997 — January 2000 (3 years 1 month)
Supplied over
100 animated sprite characters to Australian client.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/monique-...ton/22/131/A35

Here is there great site from 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/200103070...-grimoire.html

Oh, and here are people in 1997 complaining about them:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....&rnum=6&pli=1#


And while I may of ended up jumping rails to a diffrent company by mistake down the line, if its the same guy, I don't think the people who write for this site care for the man. But since the oldest news, from 2004, has "Cleve left LA for Australia in 1991", I am thinking its this man.

http://rpgcodex.net/newsarchive.php?GameID=288


And this is the newest info for this game

Grimoire to be Released this Fall ( Game news )
posted by VentilatorOfDoom on Mon 05 July 2010, 20:57:15
More info on Grimoire

... and this time it's for real!

Grimoire, the most anticipated RPG for the last few decades, will most likely be shipped very soon. Vaporware developer legend Cleveland Mark Blakemore seems to think so, thus he relaunched his Golden Era Games website.
After five years of having little more than a placeholder, the Golden Era Games web site is back! Looks like we may actually be getting some games released soon so we’re going to need it!
We’re grateful to all our frequent visitors over the years who have been wondering what happened to us. We’ re back!
They're back! Will Grimoire put an end to the misery of nextgen RPG offerings and lead the RPG genre to a new golden age?
Look at these screenshots while you're pondering this question.

This newsitem was brought to you by Mortmal.
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Edit: Oh wait, its that RPGCodex mentioned above. God damn, we are getting legal threats from a guy who has been trying to make an PC RPG for 19 years. Someone should let him know his trademark expired :lol

He does have a new site though: http://grimoiresystems.com/
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 09:47 AM)
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Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.
Drkirby
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(07-23-2010, 09:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.

I love how I found people on usernet complaning about this guy in 1997 :lol

For some reason, I just picture the guy as an Evil version of Victor Ireland.

But it looks like I am far to late for this, since Dan already got this under control.

I find it hard to think it took this guy more then 15 years to make this. We could do it half the time!:



And he paid people over a decade ago to make the sprites.
Jocchan
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(07-23-2010, 10:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Many people who don't know about Gaf or the game could find it through Wiki. We need people for crossreferencing Dudebro with similar topics, imo.

I was talking about the Dudebro wiki on Wikia: it had a lot of incorrect and outdated information, and updating it would have been pointless because we have the website to host that very information.
The website is also updated twice a week, so updating the wiki entirely and immediately would have made website updates themselves pointless.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 11:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I was talking about the Dudebro wiki on Wikia: it had a lot of incorrect and outdated information, and updating it would have been pointless because we have the website to host that very information.
The website is also updated twice a week, so updating the wiki entirely and immediately would have made website updates themselves pointless.

Oh I forgot about that. Yea it really is just extra baggage at this point.

I didn't get shit done today due to hype and gushing over all of the new Reach info.

Did this yesterday, quick and sloppy, just like the afternoon I was conceived. It's a totally original idea and has never ever been done before in the entire history of media/sarcasm-


Back of shirt finishes the quote.
John
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(07-23-2010, 06:15 PM)
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Dude.
V_Ben
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(07-23-2010, 06:29 PM)
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liking the poster :D
Danthrax
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(07-23-2010, 11:07 PM)
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Drkirby: Yeah, I did some research into him, found his website, etc., but I didn't dig back quite as far as you. :lol So thanks for that, it's interesting to read.

Through the press e-mail address, I asked him to prove he is who he says he is and that he has a trademark on Grimoire as it relates to video games. He sent me scans of two documents ... one was an Australian business registration for Grimoire Systems that expired in 1998. He gave no evidence that he renewed the registration, and it was simply a business name registration, not an actual trademark filing. The other scan was a piece of paperwork with his name showing that he is the owner of a corporation called GRIMOIRE SYSTEMS PTY. LTD.

BTW, he was born in Virginia and turned 47 about two weeks ago. Fun facts.

(Also in the e-mail, I asked him to give me the name and contact information for his attorney, which he completely ignored.)



Sill4: Nice design, that's pretty cool! If you give me the image for the back of the shirt (with just the text completing the quote) and make both of them have a transparent background, I can put them on a black T-shirt in the shop.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 11:47 PM)
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Ok, I'm going to doctor it up though. I butchered the skull.
Danthrax
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(07-23-2010, 11:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Ok, I'm going to doctor it up though. I butchered the skull.

Fair enough, dude. And maybe increase the beard's length a bit; make it look closer to Dudebro's.
Sill4
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(07-24-2010, 12:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Fair enough, dude. And maybe increase the beard's length a bit; make it look closer to Dudebro's.

Well, I originally had a long twisting beard that was serpintine and intertwined with the crossed rifles. It was pretty cool, but it was a little too different from the established B.R.O. logo seen On Dawgless's hat. So I opted to keep it simple. But now I'm not so sure...it did look pretty cool...
Drkirby
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(07-24-2010, 09:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Drkirby: Yeah, I did some research into him, found his website, etc., but I didn't dig back quite as far as you. :lol So thanks for that, it's interesting to read.

Through the press e-mail address, I asked him to prove he is who he says he is and that he has a trademark on Grimoire as it relates to video games. He sent me scans of two documents ... one was an Australian business registration for Grimoire Systems that expired in 1998. He gave no evidence that he renewed the registration, and it was simply a business name registration, not an actual trademark filing. The other scan was a piece of paperwork with his name showing that he is the owner of a corporation called GRIMOIRE SYSTEMS PTY. LTD.

BTW, he was born in Virginia and turned 47 about two weeks ago. Fun facts.

(Also in the e-mail, I asked him to give me the name and contact information for his attorney, which he completely ignored.)



Sill4: Nice design, that's pretty cool! If you give me the image for the back of the shirt (with just the text completing the quote) and make both of them have a transparent background, I can put them on a black T-shirt in the shop.

You know, I would love to see this somehow cause some sort of chain reaction getting Dudebro to be more well known. Have him make a PR announcement saying the game is being delayed because he has to change the name of his game/is suing up, those people on RPGCodex picking it up since they seem to enjoy digging into this guy, and have it progress from there.
Jocchan
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(07-24-2010, 10:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Well, I originally had a long twisting beard that was serpintine and intertwined with the crossed rifles. It was pretty cool, but it was a little too different from the established B.R.O. logo seen On Dawgless's hat. So I opted to keep it simple. But now I'm not so sure...it did look pretty cool...

I'm curious to see that version.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(07-24-2010, 10:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.

Yep. Pretty much they (he) can't do jackshit.
vulva
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(07-24-2010, 10:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Drkirby

Yeah, there is only a single trademark in the entire Australian Trademark database with the word GRIMOIRE, which is for the subtitle of Final Fantasy Tactics A2.

They are lying, or forgot to actually trademark their name.

But I did find something the company made, they are credited with midi on this site, saying they created it in 1996:
http://www.faqs.org/copyright/the-am...rth-hall-solo/

Yeah, you are being langdell'd

Found this here, so they seem like the exsisted at one time at least:


http://www.linkedin.com/pub/monique-...ton/22/131/A35

Here is there great site from 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/200103070...-grimoire.html

Oh, and here are people in 1997 complaining about them:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....&rnum=6&pli=1#


And while I may of ended up jumping rails to a diffrent company by mistake down the line, if its the same guy, I don't think the people who write for this site care for the man. But since the oldest news, from 2004, has "Cleve left LA for Australia in 1991", I am thinking its this man.

http://rpgcodex.net/newsarchive.php?GameID=288


And this is the newest info for this game



Edit: Oh wait, its that RPGCodex mentioned above. God damn, we are getting legal threats from a guy who has been trying to make an PC RPG for 19 years. Someone should let him know his trademark expired :lol

He does have a new site though: http://grimoiresystems.com/

I know someone who posts there, so I mentioned this to him


[04:37] <vulva> apparently
[04:37] <vulva> someone from rpgcodex
[04:37] <vulva> is threatening legal action against dudebro
[04:40] <&mik> hahaha
[04:40] <&mik> which one?
[04:40] <&mik> link me
[04:40] <vulva> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=5355
[04:45] <&mik> hahah
[04:45] <&mik> CLEVE
[04:46] <&mik> dude
[04:46] <&mik> fucking CLEVE
[04:46] <&mik> cleve is fucking crazy
[04:46] <&mik> hes' building a bunker in australia for when ITZ happens
[04:46] <&mik> dude thinks his asperbergers gave him an IQ of 300 and that he's 5x stronger than any other human can be cuz of some bone density bullshit
[04:46] <&mik> dude's an awesome troll
[04:46] <&mik> and a veritable encyclopedia of quotable shit
[04:47] <vulva> can I quote you on this and post it in the gaf thread? haha
[04:47] <&mik> yes
[04:47] <&mik> absoluteley
donkey show
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(07-24-2010, 10:52 AM)
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Yeah, just ordered a Dudebro 8-bit tee and Broler Bear Trucker hat. It should go well during testing sessions. :lol :lol :lol

[04:46] <&mik> dude thinks his asperbergers gave him an IQ of 300 and that he's 5x stronger than any other human can be cuz of some bone density bullshit

You guys should add him as a secret boss. Cleve the Crazy. :lol
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(07-24-2010, 10:59 AM)
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[04:48] <&mik> i'll dig up some quotes from him if you want
[04:48] <&mik> he refers to 'america' as 'amerikwa' and refers to the people as 'kwanzanians' talking about how multi-culturism is leading to a downward spiral of rape and sodomy for all western society at the hands of blacks/etc.
[04:48] <&mik> lemme dig a few up
[04:48] <&mik> its awesome shit
[04:51] <vulva> haha kk
[04:55] <&mik> cleve on fox news: http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=885838#885838
[04:56] <&mik> hrmm the last sticky in retardoland is light on his theories
[04:56] <&mik> he's bene spouting the same shit for years now
[04:56] <&mik> so people just kind of alreayd understand his retarded short-hand
[04:56] <&mik> there should be an originator topic in here tho
[04:58] <&mik> ah here's a goo done
[04:58] <&mik> about when he was open abou tusing profits from grimoir to support storm-front
[04:58] <&mik> http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=129266#129266
[04:59] <vulva> jesus
donkey show
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(07-24-2010, 11:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Happy Phantom

[04:48] <&mik> i'll dig up some quotes from him if you want
[04:48] <&mik> he refers to 'america' as 'amerikwa' and refers to the people as 'kwanzanians' talking about how multi-culturism is leading to a downward spiral of rape and sodomy for all western society at the hands of blacks/etc.
[04:48] <&mik> lemme dig a few up
[04:48] <&mik> its awesome shit
[04:51] <vulva> haha kk
[04:55] <&mik> cleve on fox news: http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=885838#885838
[04:56] <&mik> hrmm the last sticky in retardoland is light on his theories
[04:56] <&mik> he's bene spouting the same shit for years now
[04:56] <&mik> so people just kind of alreayd understand his retarded short-hand
[04:56] <&mik> there should be an originator topic in here tho
[04:58] <&mik> ah here's a goo done
[04:58] <&mik> about when he was open abou tusing profits from grimoir to support storm-front
[04:58] <&mik> http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=129266#129266
[04:59] <vulva> jesus

Goddam. Just read the links. You guys really need to make Cleve the Crazy a secret boss now. :lol :lol :lol
vulva
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(07-24-2010, 11:38 AM)
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[05:12] <&mik> on how he got aspberger's http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=840873#840873
[05:13] <&mik> on his titanium bones: http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=560920#560920


also

[05:26] <vulva> jesus christ
[05:27] <vulva> after reading up on his super strength and super aspbergers, someone joked about him being a final boss in dudebro
[05:27] <vulva> starting to think that'd be a good idea
[05:28] <&mik> heh
[05:28] <&mik> a guy on the codex made a comic
[05:29] <&mik> in which he was the main enemy/boss
[05:29] <&mik> done entirely in screen shots using gary's mod for HL2
[05:29] <&mik> you saw some of 'em, I believe
[05:29] <&mik> Cleve has always been joked about as being the last boss of the Codex when ti becomes its own RPG
[05:29] <&mik> which it did, last april fool's
[05:32] <&mik> but you should definitley link his blog, at least
[05:32] <&mik> http://vault-co.blogspot.com/
donkey show
Little Big Dev
Sumo Digital
(07-24-2010, 11:41 AM)
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Fucking hell, all these links are pure gold for his backstory in the game. His "Unbreakable" story about his super human bones was hilarious! :lol
perfectchaos007
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(07-24-2010, 11:53 AM)
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So a counter sue would be an insta win almost? :lol

It's so crazy how as soon as you start to do something in an industry, independant or not, someone tries to sue you lol. Then if you become successful, you just get sued more! No one wants to make an honest living these days.
Jocchan
Ὁ μεμβερος -ου
(07-24-2010, 11:55 AM)
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As funny as those posts may be, turning someone into a videogame boss to mock him may be ground for some real legal action, so sorry but we can't do that :p
Sill4
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(07-24-2010, 12:40 PM)
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Those links contained an enormous amount of stupid.

I seriously had to stop reading because of the stupid. It was making my brain hurt.

This...person needs to be forgotten, not given the attention it craves. And damn sure not put in any type of media, let alone our game.

This message brought to you by a very tired Sill4.
Danthrax
Batteries the CRISIS!
(07-24-2010, 02:10 PM)
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oh look what we got in the inbox about 8 hours ago:

Originally Posted by new e-mail

It always starts like this. I could have just used a form letter for your reply and have you fill in the blanks and mail it back to me.

You are going to change the name of your development team. I began litigation with Crystal Dynamics in 1998 and pursued them to the day of their bankruptcy with court orders and appearance dates right up until their doors closed. We were the ones who required their web host to block their site with a court order.

Your objections that copyright is held by whomever shows up first in web searches is facetious and legally ridiculous. If this constitutes your defense rebuttal I promise you that you are going to lose against me in court.

It's effortless for me because I have close relatives on both continents who are practicing lawyers. They will first find you, gather your details and we will begin our campaign against you without surcease or rest until your web host bans you, just for starters.

You were correct when you said non-profit trademark infractions are far harder to contest. Unfortunately for you, you are profiting from your game development by selling related products in CafePress which makes you a beneficiary of said copyright infringement. This also implicates you in the theft of images from the game BIOSHOCK used to promote your game. I will be sure to notify the appropriate copyright holders shortly.

You and I are going to be good penpals over the coming years and you will find that trespassing on my intellectual property is just like being tracked by Yul Brynner in WESTWORLD. I will never go away. This will never end. It's only getting started.

The solution for you is to change the name of your development team. Otherwise you would not believe what an ordeal I will put you through over the coming months and years. If you think I am bluffing, I will put you in touch with people who are currently on medication because just mentioning my name makes them start screaming uncontrollably. They thought I was bluffing too.

Regards,
Cleveland Mark Blakemore
12:54 PM Brisbane Central Time, Australia July 23, 2010


the cafepress isn't linked to an account, so technically, only cafepress is profiting. but y'know, whatever

also, he apparently doesn't read because i didn't say whomever shows up first in web searches is the "copyright holder." (once again, we are talking about trademarks, not copyrights. what a bright bulb.) rather, i said whomever shows up first in web searches is who has more mindshare, and whomever has lesser mindshare would damage the other. no one knows who he is; lots of people know who we are. his shit would potentially confuse the marketplace that's looking for our game. no one is looking for his game, clearly, so our shit wouldn't confuse the marketplace.

lastly, he keeps talking about his relatives who are lawyers, but hasn't given me a name or contact information, like i requested two weeks ago. but whatevs, i'm sure they'll pop out of the woodwork to sue all 150 of us

P.S. I BETTER START POPPIN PILLS CUZ I'MMA NEED MAH MEDICATION HURR HURR

P.P.S. I totally told this guy to stop harassing us through this e-mail address. Am I going to have to warn him that if he does it one more time I'm going to notify the Australian authorities? Thing is, I'd do it. I don't want to put up with this shit.

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