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Danthrax
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(07-23-2010, 02:26 AM)
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Man, trouble makers... :/

Hopefully I get to contribute more stuff soon, I'm loaded with school work (programming, exams, papers).
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 07:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Chill the fuck out people holy shit

Pretty sure most of our replies were more "haha" than "GRRRR" so this isn't needed :D

Originally Posted by Jocchan

Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.

Many people who don't know about Gaf or the game could find it through Wiki. We need people for crossreferencing Dudebro with similar topics, imo.
Xater
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(07-23-2010, 07:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

That's not the vandalization I meant. I meant Cleve deleting the entire front page of the wikia and posting that copyright violation message in large font.

Well that's mature. :lol
Drkirby
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(07-23-2010, 08:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I guess we're being langdell'd:


http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, lol at the Bioshock mention (the page is hosting a photoshop made by someone).

Yeah, there is only a single trademark in the entire Australian Trademark database with the word GRIMOIRE, which is for the subtitle of Final Fantasy Tactics A2.

They are lying, or forgot to actually trademark their name.

But I did find something the company made, they are credited with midi on this site, saying they created it in 1996:
http://www.faqs.org/copyright/the-am...rth-hall-solo/

Yeah, you are being langdell'd

Found this here, so they seem like the exsisted at one time at least:

Computer game graphics
Grimoire Roleplaying Systems
(Arts and Crafts industry)
January 1997 — January 2000 (3 years 1 month)
Supplied over
100 animated sprite characters to Australian client.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/monique-...ton/22/131/A35

Here is there great site from 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/200103070...-grimoire.html

Oh, and here are people in 1997 complaining about them:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....&rnum=6&pli=1#


And while I may of ended up jumping rails to a diffrent company by mistake down the line, if its the same guy, I don't think the people who write for this site care for the man. But since the oldest news, from 2004, has "Cleve left LA for Australia in 1991", I am thinking its this man.

http://rpgcodex.net/newsarchive.php?GameID=288


And this is the newest info for this game

Grimoire to be Released this Fall ( Game news )
posted by VentilatorOfDoom on Mon 05 July 2010, 20:57:15
More info on Grimoire

... and this time it's for real!

Grimoire, the most anticipated RPG for the last few decades, will most likely be shipped very soon. Vaporware developer legend Cleveland Mark Blakemore seems to think so, thus he relaunched his Golden Era Games website.
After five years of having little more than a placeholder, the Golden Era Games web site is back! Looks like we may actually be getting some games released soon so we’re going to need it!
We’re grateful to all our frequent visitors over the years who have been wondering what happened to us. We’ re back!
They're back! Will Grimoire put an end to the misery of nextgen RPG offerings and lead the RPG genre to a new golden age?
Look at these screenshots while you're pondering this question.

This newsitem was brought to you by Mortmal.
There are 96 comments on this article. Click here to comment.


Edit: Oh wait, its that RPGCodex mentioned above. God damn, we are getting legal threats from a guy who has been trying to make an PC RPG for 19 years. Someone should let him know his trademark expired :lol

He does have a new site though: http://grimoiresystems.com/
Last edited by Drkirby; 07-23-2010 at 08:48 AM.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 08:47 AM)
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Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.
Drkirby
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(07-23-2010, 08:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.

I love how I found people on usernet complaning about this guy in 1997 :lol

For some reason, I just picture the guy as an Evil version of Victor Ireland.

But it looks like I am far to late for this, since Dan already got this under control.

I find it hard to think it took this guy more then 15 years to make this. We could do it half the time!:



And he paid people over a decade ago to make the sprites.
Last edited by Drkirby; 07-23-2010 at 08:58 AM.
Jocchan
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(07-23-2010, 09:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Many people who don't know about Gaf or the game could find it through Wiki. We need people for crossreferencing Dudebro with similar topics, imo.

I was talking about the Dudebro wiki on Wikia: it had a lot of incorrect and outdated information, and updating it would have been pointless because we have the website to host that very information.
The website is also updated twice a week, so updating the wiki entirely and immediately would have made website updates themselves pointless.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 10:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I was talking about the Dudebro wiki on Wikia: it had a lot of incorrect and outdated information, and updating it would have been pointless because we have the website to host that very information.
The website is also updated twice a week, so updating the wiki entirely and immediately would have made website updates themselves pointless.

Oh I forgot about that. Yea it really is just extra baggage at this point.

I didn't get shit done today due to hype and gushing over all of the new Reach info.

Did this yesterday, quick and sloppy, just like the afternoon I was conceived. It's a totally original idea and has never ever been done before in the entire history of media/sarcasm-


Back of shirt finishes the quote.
Last edited by Sill4; 07-23-2010 at 11:07 AM.
John
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(07-23-2010, 05:15 PM)
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Dude.
V_Ben
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(07-23-2010, 05:29 PM)
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liking the poster :D
Danthrax
Batteries the CRISIS!
(07-23-2010, 10:07 PM)
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Drkirby: Yeah, I did some research into him, found his website, etc., but I didn't dig back quite as far as you. :lol So thanks for that, it's interesting to read.

Through the press e-mail address, I asked him to prove he is who he says he is and that he has a trademark on Grimoire as it relates to video games. He sent me scans of two documents ... one was an Australian business registration for Grimoire Systems that expired in 1998. He gave no evidence that he renewed the registration, and it was simply a business name registration, not an actual trademark filing. The other scan was a piece of paperwork with his name showing that he is the owner of a corporation called GRIMOIRE SYSTEMS PTY. LTD.

BTW, he was born in Virginia and turned 47 about two weeks ago. Fun facts.

(Also in the e-mail, I asked him to give me the name and contact information for his attorney, which he completely ignored.)



Sill4: Nice design, that's pretty cool! If you give me the image for the back of the shirt (with just the text completing the quote) and make both of them have a transparent background, I can put them on a black T-shirt in the shop.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 10:47 PM)
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Ok, I'm going to doctor it up though. I butchered the skull.
Danthrax
Batteries the CRISIS!
(07-23-2010, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Ok, I'm going to doctor it up though. I butchered the skull.

Fair enough, dude. And maybe increase the beard's length a bit; make it look closer to Dudebro's.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Fair enough, dude. And maybe increase the beard's length a bit; make it look closer to Dudebro's.

Well, I originally had a long twisting beard that was serpintine and intertwined with the crossed rifles. It was pretty cool, but it was a little too different from the established B.R.O. logo seen On Dawgless's hat. So I opted to keep it simple. But now I'm not so sure...it did look pretty cool...
Drkirby
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(07-24-2010, 08:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Drkirby: Yeah, I did some research into him, found his website, etc., but I didn't dig back quite as far as you. :lol So thanks for that, it's interesting to read.

Through the press e-mail address, I asked him to prove he is who he says he is and that he has a trademark on Grimoire as it relates to video games. He sent me scans of two documents ... one was an Australian business registration for Grimoire Systems that expired in 1998. He gave no evidence that he renewed the registration, and it was simply a business name registration, not an actual trademark filing. The other scan was a piece of paperwork with his name showing that he is the owner of a corporation called GRIMOIRE SYSTEMS PTY. LTD.

BTW, he was born in Virginia and turned 47 about two weeks ago. Fun facts.

(Also in the e-mail, I asked him to give me the name and contact information for his attorney, which he completely ignored.)



Sill4: Nice design, that's pretty cool! If you give me the image for the back of the shirt (with just the text completing the quote) and make both of them have a transparent background, I can put them on a black T-shirt in the shop.

You know, I would love to see this somehow cause some sort of chain reaction getting Dudebro to be more well known. Have him make a PR announcement saying the game is being delayed because he has to change the name of his game/is suing up, those people on RPGCodex picking it up since they seem to enjoy digging into this guy, and have it progress from there.
Jocchan
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(07-24-2010, 09:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Well, I originally had a long twisting beard that was serpintine and intertwined with the crossed rifles. It was pretty cool, but it was a little too different from the established B.R.O. logo seen On Dawgless's hat. So I opted to keep it simple. But now I'm not so sure...it did look pretty cool...

I'm curious to see that version.
shagg_187
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(07-24-2010, 09:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.

Yep. Pretty much they (he) can't do jackshit.
vulva
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(07-24-2010, 09:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Drkirby

Yeah, there is only a single trademark in the entire Australian Trademark database with the word GRIMOIRE, which is for the subtitle of Final Fantasy Tactics A2.

They are lying, or forgot to actually trademark their name.

But I did find something the company made, they are credited with midi on this site, saying they created it in 1996:
http://www.faqs.org/copyright/the-am...rth-hall-solo/

Yeah, you are being langdell'd

Found this here, so they seem like the exsisted at one time at least:


http://www.linkedin.com/pub/monique-...ton/22/131/A35

Here is there great site from 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/200103070...-grimoire.html

Oh, and here are people in 1997 complaining about them:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....&rnum=6&pli=1#


And while I may of ended up jumping rails to a diffrent company by mistake down the line, if its the same guy, I don't think the people who write for this site care for the man. But since the oldest news, from 2004, has "Cleve left LA for Australia in 1991", I am thinking its this man.

http://rpgcodex.net/newsarchive.php?GameID=288


And this is the newest info for this game



Edit: Oh wait, its that RPGCodex mentioned above. God damn, we are getting legal threats from a guy who has been trying to make an PC RPG for 19 years. Someone should let him know his trademark expired :lol

He does have a new site though: http://grimoiresystems.com/

I know someone who posts there, so I mentioned this to him


[04:37] <vulva> apparently
[04:37] <vulva> someone from rpgcodex
[04:37] <vulva> is threatening legal action against dudebro
[04:40] <&mik> hahaha
[04:40] <&mik> which one?
[04:40] <&mik> link me
[04:40] <vulva> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=5355
[04:45] <&mik> hahah
[04:45] <&mik> CLEVE
[04:46] <&mik> dude
[04:46] <&mik> fucking CLEVE
[04:46] <&mik> cleve is fucking crazy
[04:46] <&mik> hes' building a bunker in australia for when ITZ happens
[04:46] <&mik> dude thinks his asperbergers gave him an IQ of 300 and that he's 5x stronger than any other human can be cuz of some bone density bullshit
[04:46] <&mik> dude's an awesome troll
[04:46] <&mik> and a veritable encyclopedia of quotable shit
[04:47] <vulva> can I quote you on this and post it in the gaf thread? haha
[04:47] <&mik> yes
[04:47] <&mik> absoluteley
donkey show
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(07-24-2010, 09:52 AM)
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Yeah, just ordered a Dudebro 8-bit tee and Broler Bear Trucker hat. It should go well during testing sessions. :lol :lol :lol

[04:46] <&mik> dude thinks his asperbergers gave him an IQ of 300 and that he's 5x stronger than any other human can be cuz of some bone density bullshit

You guys should add him as a secret boss. Cleve the Crazy. :lol
vulva
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(07-24-2010, 09:59 AM)
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[04:48] <&mik> i'll dig up some quotes from him if you want
[04:48] <&mik> he refers to 'america' as 'amerikwa' and refers to the people as 'kwanzanians' talking about how multi-culturism is leading to a downward spiral of rape and sodomy for all western society at the hands of blacks/etc.
[04:48] <&mik> lemme dig a few up
[04:48] <&mik> its awesome shit
[04:51] <vulva> haha kk
[04:55] <&mik> cleve on fox news: http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=885838#885838
[04:56] <&mik> hrmm the last sticky in retardoland is light on his theories
[04:56] <&mik> he's bene spouting the same shit for years now
[04:56] <&mik> so people just kind of alreayd understand his retarded short-hand
[04:56] <&mik> there should be an originator topic in here tho
[04:58] <&mik> ah here's a goo done
[04:58] <&mik> about when he was open abou tusing profits from grimoir to support storm-front
[04:58] <&mik> http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=129266#129266
[04:59] <vulva> jesus
donkey show
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(07-24-2010, 10:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Happy Phantom

[04:48] <&mik> i'll dig up some quotes from him if you want
[04:48] <&mik> he refers to 'america' as 'amerikwa' and refers to the people as 'kwanzanians' talking about how multi-culturism is leading to a downward spiral of rape and sodomy for all western society at the hands of blacks/etc.
[04:48] <&mik> lemme dig a few up
[04:48] <&mik> its awesome shit
[04:51] <vulva> haha kk
[04:55] <&mik> cleve on fox news: http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=885838#885838
[04:56] <&mik> hrmm the last sticky in retardoland is light on his theories
[04:56] <&mik> he's bene spouting the same shit for years now
[04:56] <&mik> so people just kind of alreayd understand his retarded short-hand
[04:56] <&mik> there should be an originator topic in here tho
[04:58] <&mik> ah here's a goo done
[04:58] <&mik> about when he was open abou tusing profits from grimoir to support storm-front
[04:58] <&mik> http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=129266#129266
[04:59] <vulva> jesus

Goddam. Just read the links. You guys really need to make Cleve the Crazy a secret boss now. :lol :lol :lol
vulva
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(07-24-2010, 10:38 AM)
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[05:12] <&mik> on how he got aspberger's http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=840873#840873
[05:13] <&mik> on his titanium bones: http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=560920#560920


also

[05:26] <vulva> jesus christ
[05:27] <vulva> after reading up on his super strength and super aspbergers, someone joked about him being a final boss in dudebro
[05:27] <vulva> starting to think that'd be a good idea
[05:28] <&mik> heh
[05:28] <&mik> a guy on the codex made a comic
[05:29] <&mik> in which he was the main enemy/boss
[05:29] <&mik> done entirely in screen shots using gary's mod for HL2
[05:29] <&mik> you saw some of 'em, I believe
[05:29] <&mik> Cleve has always been joked about as being the last boss of the Codex when ti becomes its own RPG
[05:29] <&mik> which it did, last april fool's
[05:32] <&mik> but you should definitley link his blog, at least
[05:32] <&mik> http://vault-co.blogspot.com/
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(07-24-2010, 10:41 AM)
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Fucking hell, all these links are pure gold for his backstory in the game. His "Unbreakable" story about his super human bones was hilarious! :lol
perfectchaos007
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(07-24-2010, 10:53 AM)
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So a counter sue would be an insta win almost? :lol

It's so crazy how as soon as you start to do something in an industry, independant or not, someone tries to sue you lol. Then if you become successful, you just get sued more! No one wants to make an honest living these days.
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Jocchan
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(07-24-2010, 10:55 AM)
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As funny as those posts may be, turning someone into a videogame boss to mock him may be ground for some real legal action, so sorry but we can't do that :p
Sill4
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(07-24-2010, 11:40 AM)
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Those links contained an enormous amount of stupid.

I seriously had to stop reading because of the stupid. It was making my brain hurt.

This...person needs to be forgotten, not given the attention it craves. And damn sure not put in any type of media, let alone our game.

This message brought to you by a very tired Sill4.
Danthrax
Batteries the CRISIS!
(07-24-2010, 01:10 PM)
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oh look what we got in the inbox about 8 hours ago:

Originally Posted by new e-mail

It always starts like this. I could have just used a form letter for your reply and have you fill in the blanks and mail it back to me.

You are going to change the name of your development team. I began litigation with Crystal Dynamics in 1998 and pursued them to the day of their bankruptcy with court orders and appearance dates right up until their doors closed. We were the ones who required their web host to block their site with a court order.

Your objections that copyright is held by whomever shows up first in web searches is facetious and legally ridiculous. If this constitutes your defense rebuttal I promise you that you are going to lose against me in court.

It's effortless for me because I have close relatives on both continents who are practicing lawyers. They will first find you, gather your details and we will begin our campaign against you without surcease or rest until your web host bans you, just for starters.

You were correct when you said non-profit trademark infractions are far harder to contest. Unfortunately for you, you are profiting from your game development by selling related products in CafePress which makes you a beneficiary of said copyright infringement. This also implicates you in the theft of images from the game BIOSHOCK used to promote your game. I will be sure to notify the appropriate copyright holders shortly.

You and I are going to be good penpals over the coming years and you will find that trespassing on my intellectual property is just like being tracked by Yul Brynner in WESTWORLD. I will never go away. This will never end. It's only getting started.

The solution for you is to change the name of your development team. Otherwise you would not believe what an ordeal I will put you through over the coming months and years. If you think I am bluffing, I will put you in touch with people who are currently on medication because just mentioning my name makes them start screaming uncontrollably. They thought I was bluffing too.

Regards,
Cleveland Mark Blakemore
12:54 PM Brisbane Central Time, Australia July 23, 2010


the cafepress isn't linked to an account, so technically, only cafepress is profiting. but y'know, whatever

also, he apparently doesn't read because i didn't say whomever shows up first in web searches is the "copyright holder." (once again, we are talking about trademarks, not copyrights. what a bright bulb.) rather, i said whomever shows up first in web searches is who has more mindshare, and whomever has lesser mindshare would damage the other. no one knows who he is; lots of people know who we are. his shit would potentially confuse the marketplace that's looking for our game. no one is looking for his game, clearly, so our shit wouldn't confuse the marketplace.

lastly, he keeps talking about his relatives who are lawyers, but hasn't given me a name or contact information, like i requested two weeks ago. but whatevs, i'm sure they'll pop out of the woodwork to sue all 150 of us

P.S. I BETTER START POPPIN PILLS CUZ I'MMA NEED MAH MEDICATION HURR HURR

P.P.S. I totally told this guy to stop harassing us through this e-mail address. Am I going to have to warn him that if he does it one more time I'm going to notify the Australian authorities? Thing is, I'd do it. I don't want to put up with this shit.
Danthrax
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(07-24-2010, 01:16 PM)
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The other thing is, he talks about suing some company called Crystal Dynamics, but that's the difference: Crystal Dynamics is a company; we are not. We're just a bunch of people who have volunteered to make a game together. We made up a name for ourselves that happens to use a word that he uses in his business name. We're essentially a club — we're private citizens who aren't out to make money but just to do an activity (make a computer game) on a regular basis. A business can't sue a club for infringing on its name. I mean WTF. It's like the common sense isn't getting through to him.
JaseC
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(07-24-2010, 01:31 PM)
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Quick, somebody tell EA to make a game with the word 'Grimoire' in the title so they can take down two dicks. :lol
rSpooky
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(07-24-2010, 01:41 PM)
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I still say put him on Ignore and move forward. Keep gathering data on this man and if he pushes on we will push back. Clearly the man is a troll or has a mental issue which makes him unaware in what capacity we are working here( i.e. we are not a business/professional/for profit) even if we were he does not have a case. And since I am sure he be reading this .. hi there.

lets just make our game and not get distracted by this weird individual. if all else fails we will block AUS IP's from the game/site and have people that have a problem with that contact him.
I am going to keep doing my parts.. peace.

Oh and for the man who threatens us.. the bioshock pic is part of the fair use act and has nothing more to do with our game other then being part of the inspiration story for the game as it was made in parody in the origins thread.
Jocchan
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(07-24-2010, 01:42 PM)
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Using that Bioshock photoshop to promote the game? In what universe did that happen?
It's a photoshop made by someone for fun, before the game development even began. I'm not even sure who did, nor who put it on a wiki that - by the way - got abandoned before the game was announced officially. No one used it to promote anything.
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Kong Fisso
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(07-24-2010, 01:48 PM)
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Well, this certaintly took a turn for the entertaining.

The guy should spend less time dickwaving on the internet and more time finishing his pathetic big game developer fever dream by actually releasing the piece of shit.
Jocchan
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(07-24-2010, 02:07 PM)
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I have no idea how that game is, it required quite a lot of detective work to even get to know it exists, but no reason to trash it.

This whole litigation, anyway, is ridiculous because:

1. We're not a company, just a group of unpaid volunteers making a free game for free
2. His trademark was filed in Australia (isn't valid worldwide) and we have nothing to do with Australia
3. His trademark expired in 1998 and was never renewed
4. He trademarked a common use word that's just a part of our name, and is - by the way - used in several commercial games too (Grim Grimoire, Grimoire of the Rift, etc.)
5. We're not profiting from the name Grimoire Assembly Forge in any way
6. We're not profiting from the CafePress account he mentioned, and even if we did we would be profiting off Dudebro, not Grimoire Assembly Forge
7. The Bioshock photoshop is a parody image edit made by someone and not used to promote anything, twisting it into something it's clearly not is pointless

Pretty sure I'm forgetting something. But anyway the picture is kinda clear I guess :p
V_Ben
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(07-24-2010, 02:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

The other thing is, he talks about suing some company called Crystal Dynamics, but that's the difference: Crystal Dynamics is a company; we are not. We're just a bunch of people who have volunteered to make a game together. We made up a name for ourselves that happens to use a word that he uses in his business name. We're essentially a club — we're private citizens who aren't out to make money but just to do an activity (make a computer game) on a regular basis. A business can't sue a club for infringing on its name. I mean WTF. It's like the common sense isn't getting through to him.

uhh, this bit sounds crazy to me;

You are going to change the name of your development team. I began litigation with Crystal Dynamics in 1998 and pursued them to the day of their bankruptcy with court orders and appearance dates right up until their doors closed. We were the ones who required their web host to block their site with a court order.

..Crystal Dynamics (The people who now make Tomb Raider games) are still alive and well. The only other company which goes by that name is a construction company, which I highly doubt he sued. I think he's just crazy. extremely crazy. :lol
Danthrax
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(07-24-2010, 02:19 PM)
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See, I don't even know how to respond to him because I just don't know where to begin. Or if I should just ignore him outright. Or simply warn him that his next e-mail will trigger a call to the Australian authorities for harassment and making threats.

I'm gonna go to sleep; you guys formulate a plan and I'll see you in 6 hours. -_-
Kong Fisso
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(07-24-2010, 02:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I have no idea how that game is, it required quite a lot of detective work to even get to know it exists, but no reason to trash it.

Of course not. But taking into account, that it's spent 10+ years in development (whatever that entails) and is being made solely by a neocon, racist nutcase, I think it's safe to say, that this won't be the best game ever. Odds are we'll never know, seeing how this whole thing reeks of vaporware.

His game's website is not even up, in contrast to his blog.
V_Ben
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(07-24-2010, 02:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

See, I don't even know how to respond to him because I just don't know where to begin. Or if I should just ignore him outright. Or simply warn him that his next e-mail will trigger a call to the Australian authorities for harassment and making threats.

I'm gonna go to sleep; you guys formulate a plan and I'll see you in 6 hours. -_-

Will do. I'll stew on it and see what I can think up.
Jocchan
Ὁ μεμβερος -ου
(07-24-2010, 02:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kong Fisso

Of course not. But taking into account, that it's spent 10+ years in development (whatever that entails) and is being made solely by a neocon, racist nutcase, I think it's safe to say, that this won't be the best game ever. Hard to say if we'll ever know, seeing how this whole thing reeks of vaporware.

His game's website is not even up, in contrast to his blog.

Nineteen years apparently, which makes that Bob guy look like an amateur.
His website, by the way, is sporting a completely different logo (Golden Era Games), which makes it kinda hard for anyone to confuse us with him (you know, one of the most important details in trademark infringement litigations).
shagg_187
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(07-24-2010, 03:31 PM)
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Poor troll is looking for some attention.

That said, I'm looking for attention too! Just completed a song and uploaded it to Dropbox. ;D
rSpooky
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(07-24-2010, 03:40 PM)
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Just realized ..does this now officially makes us industry insiders?? Being sued and all.
shagg_187
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(07-24-2010, 03:42 PM)
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Naa, it makes us Indie! If you're not Indie, FUCK YOU!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617lGZjYyNo
whitehawk
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(07-24-2010, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

Poor troll is looking for some attention.

That said, I'm looking for attention too! Just completed a song and uploaded it to Dropbox. ;D

Which one is it.
Jocchan
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(07-24-2010, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by rSpooky

Just realized ..does this now officially makes us industry insiders?? Being sued and all.

It doesn't, we're still not a company :p
vulva
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(07-24-2010, 05:18 PM)
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Man, Cleve isn't anything to be worried about. He's mildly insane and has no legal grounds anyways. Just have a chuckle at the emails he sends, then move on.
Danthrax
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(07-24-2010, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Happy Phantom

Man, Cleve isn't anything to be worried about. He's mildly insane and has no legal grounds anyways. Just have a chuckle at the emails he sends, then move on.

Yeah we'll try. It's disconcerting to get these harassing e-mails, though.
Last edited by Danthrax; 07-24-2010 at 09:59 PM.
cosmicblizzard
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(07-24-2010, 10:02 PM)
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Well this is definitely not what I expected to come back to after a nice weekend in Atlantic City. Oh well, seems like a minor inconvenience at worst and free publicity at best.
fizzelopeguss
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(07-24-2010, 11:30 PM)
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Cleve is an autist who literally believes that he's the last of the neanderthals (big brain, superhuman strength etc)
shagg_187
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(07-25-2010, 12:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Which one is it.

Noise Pollution :D
V_Ben
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(07-25-2010, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

Noise Pollution :D

wow. I really like it. there's a very retro feel to it, which is awesome. Also, it feels extremely industrial, which is a great fit for certain levels in the game. Awesome job man.

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