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Jocchan
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(07-21-2010, 04:34 PM)
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V_Ben
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(07-21-2010, 04:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

[IMG]http://i31.************/5p28tc.gif[/IMG]

:D
fatigues_gasolini
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(07-21-2010, 04:39 PM)
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Well, you guys have succeeded. My company's firewall blocks dudebro2.com
Jocchan
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(07-21-2010, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by gamerecks

Well, you guys have succeeded. My company's firewall blocks dudebro2.com

IT BEGINS
cooljeanius
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(07-21-2010, 07:56 PM)
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Hey, has anyone else here played Guerilla Bob for iDevices? I've been playing the lite version on my iPod Touch, and it's been reminding me of Dudebro for a few reasons:
• Character design is somewhat similar
• Looks like it's made in Unity
• Both are "dual stick" shooters
• Both are humorous
What do the rest of you think?
Jocchan
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(07-21-2010, 10:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by cooljeanius

Hey, has anyone else here played Guerilla Bob for iDevices? I've been playing the lite version on my iPod Touch, and it's been reminding me of Dudebro for a few reasons:
• Character design is somewhat similar
• Looks like it's made in Unity
• Both are "dual stick" shooters
• Both are humorous
What do the rest of you think?

I did! I found out about this game back in February. At first I thought it was quite similar too, but it's actually really different (which is good) :)
Sill4
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(07-21-2010, 11:03 PM)
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Is it fun? I may have to put it on my iphone. Has anyone tried Alien Swarm yet? It looked pretty similar from the screens I saw.

2010, year of the top-down shooter?
JambiBum
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(07-21-2010, 11:05 PM)
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Since we need more designs for shirts I'm gonna see if I can get my brother to design some stuff if he has time. Guy is magical with graphic design.
cosmicblizzard
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(07-21-2010, 11:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by dentoomw

Just wanted to update everyone that we've officially started the QA process :) Should be an interesting next few days... :D

Also, if anyone has sent me a PM and I have NOT replied, please just resend it again. I have to constantly clear out my inbox since I'm still capped at 50 messages lol :( so I may have read your message but simply forgotten to reply. My apologies if this has happened.

Hmm, thought Dacvak would make a new thread. Guess you guys have enough people without it?
Danthrax
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(07-22-2010, 05:02 AM)
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Yeah, more T-shirt designs would be sweet. I really like the ones we have right now, too. The problem is that we'd need to spend money to upgrade our shop to put multiple designs on the same type of shirt ... right now, I have each design on separate types of T-shirts. And spending money to upgrade the shop kinda defeats the purpose of the shop, especially when we don't get many sales :lol
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 05:59 AM)
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Okay just want some quick feedback. I was messing around and came up with this. I just want to know if it's worth continuing and finishing, otherwise I'll just scrap it.

http://www.box.net/shared/2ozbc7dsjh
Sill4
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(07-22-2010, 06:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Okay just want some quick feedback. I was messing around and came up with this. I just want to know if it's worth continuing and finishing, otherwise I'll just scrap it.

http://www.box.net/shared/2ozbc7dsjh

Dude it's fucking awesome. I can totally see Dudebro and Chicken assaulting Vicious Brontosaurus listening to this.
dentoomw
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(07-22-2010, 06:22 AM)
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Hmm, thought Dacvak would make a new thread. Guess you guys have enough people without it?

We actually have enough from the old thread to not require a new one just yet :)
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 11:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Okay just want some quick feedback. I was messing around and came up with this. I just want to know if it's worth continuing and finishing, otherwise I'll just scrap it.

http://www.box.net/shared/2ozbc7dsjh

It's totally worth it, man.
Extremely badass, as Sill4 said it would work perfectly for act 6-2.

Originally Posted by Sill4

Is it fun? I may have to put it on my iphone. Has anyone tried Alien Swarm yet? It looked pretty similar from the screens I saw.

2010, year of the top-down shooter?

Honestly, I didn't like Guerrilla Bob much. I hear it had a major update, though, so now it may be worth it.
Basically, you (used to) walk through linear levels with a small number of bullet sponge-ish enemies attacking you (3-4 tops at the same time). Kinda fun at first, but it got extremely repetitive fast. Hopefully the update fixed that.

EDIT: Sorry, I should have specified I was talking about Guerrilla Bob, not Alien Swarm.
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Prophet Steve
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(07-22-2010, 11:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Okay just want some quick feedback. I was messing around and came up with this. I just want to know if it's worth continuing and finishing, otherwise I'll just scrap it.

http://www.box.net/shared/2ozbc7dsjh

Although I'm not involved with the project, just want so say: "I love it".

@Jocchan

It's not a very major update, mostly bugfixes as far as I'm aware of. But the game has many mod potential (source code will be made available, tilebased editor, add-on support etc.).
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 12:17 PM)
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I was talking about Guerrilla Bob, should have specified that :D
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 02:33 PM)
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I guess we're being langdell'd:

"GRIMOIRE ASSEMBLY FORGE" is a violation of the trademark brand GRIMOIRE RPG held in Sydney, Australia. This page contains copyright violations for both Bioshock and Grimoire Roleplaying Systems computer game products which constitute digital media theft and this page and it's maintainers have thirty days to remove these materials or they will be prosecuted in a court of law where the trademarked brand is held.

http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, lol at the Bioshock mention (the page is hosting a photoshop made by someone).
John
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(07-22-2010, 02:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Okay just want some quick feedback. I was messing around and came up with this. I just want to know if it's worth continuing and finishing, otherwise I'll just scrap it.

http://www.box.net/shared/2ozbc7dsjh

It's good up until the horn melody comes in, I think.
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 03:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I guess we're being langdell'd:


http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, lol at the Bioshock mention (the page is hosting a photoshop made by someone).

How the hell are we violating Grimoire RPG's trademark. You have to be kidding me :lol
Apoc29
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(07-22-2010, 04:18 PM)
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I can't find anything on Grimoire RPG other than this, and the brand seems to be called "Golden Era Games". Hey if you want to get some infringement action, why don't you bug these guys: http://www.darkgrimoire.com/contact.php
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 04:36 PM)
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Yeah same here, I had a hard time finding anything to do with 'Grimoire RPG'. Some guy could just be messing with us for the hell of it.
rSpooky
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(07-22-2010, 04:43 PM)
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Wel there is this : http://darkgrimoire.com/

But!!

grimoire - 1 dictionary result
grimoire

noun
a manual of black magic (for invoking spirits and demons)
WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
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for GAF we have permision
and the bioshock etc. stuff is all fair use act.

I am not worried, and if not someone messing with us I would love to return the favor to them and put in a counter suit for incomprable damages they did to our game development process. ;)
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Xater
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(07-22-2010, 04:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by rSpooky

Wel there is this : http://darkgrimoire.com/

But!!



for GAF we have permision
and the bioshock etc. stuff is all fair use act.

I am not worried, and if not someone messing with us I would love to return the favor to them and put in a counter suit for incomprable damages they did to our game development process. ;)

Yeah I don't see the problem either. Grimoire is a normal word and it's not like that is the only part o the name. :lol

I just took a look into the forums of this company which is of course empty. There are only some rules ignoring all the typos ad stuff I think we are dealing with some real pros here...

Anyone who is suspected to be from RPGCodex or a regular poster on RPGCodex or has a recognized user name from RPGCodex will be banned outright permanently from posting to this forum. No exceptions to this rule.

:lol :lol :lol
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whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 05:58 PM)
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Alright I made a few changes, but it's still far from done. Although I'm liking how it sounds a lot better now. I cranked up the guitar, made some other minor adjustments and added a part near the end. Opinions?

http://www.box.net/shared/6h5mmz6q3m
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 06:36 PM)
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Apparently this claim comes from Grimoire Roleplaying Systems, some indie developer (I think? they have no online presence) whose website was supposedly a page on a domain that's now expired. I can't find anything about them anywhere.
The fact it's just an edit to a wiki (something anyone can do), with no contact information whatsoever, doesn't look exactly like anything serious... but honestly you never know.
V_Ben
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(07-22-2010, 06:42 PM)
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whoa. this certainly is a crazy thing. Sounds fishy to me :lol
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 06:43 PM)
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Yeah but we aren't infringing anything...
V_Ben
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(07-22-2010, 06:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Yeah but we aren't infringing anything...

thats why it's fishy :lol
bistromathics
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(07-22-2010, 06:44 PM)
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woww :lol
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 06:58 PM)
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Of course we're not infringing anything.

1. The names are very different, the only thing in common is a common word that's just a part of both names Should we sue EA because it's using vowels that are in Grimoire Assembly Forge then?
2. The trademark was apparently filed in Australia (but I can't find it anywhere), we're technically US based (hence the press releases from Cleveland) and the official website is hosted in Italy. No relationship with Australia whatsoever.
3. This company has no online presence. No one could possibly have ever heard of them, so the alleged infringement can't be intentional.
Sill4
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(07-22-2010, 07:56 PM)
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Who the fuck are they going to sue anyways? I'll give them all three of my dollars to drop the case.
bistromathics
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(07-22-2010, 08:55 PM)
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who all is heading up QA again? I've set up a proper 'bugzilla' bug tracker on some remote server space I have. It could be more convenient than using a google doc spreadsheet...it's got a lot of fields and junk we don't need, but the tracking and commenting and logging and attaching and assigning and resolving by user would come in handy

login required is turned off atm so you can check it out without making an account (click 'browse' in the page header). and i can hand over admin account to you guys easily...i've never run one of these before so I don't really know what i'm doin here, just thought I'd give it a shot, lol

http://standard-error.com/bugzilla-3.6.1
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cooljeanius
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(07-22-2010, 10:08 PM)
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This infringement thing reminds me of a few things:
1. What happened to the IP lawyers we had for our team?
2. The wiki needs updating. Maybe I'll do it once this round of QA ends...
whitehawk
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(07-22-2010, 10:22 PM)
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Yeah, did anyone have the Wiki backed up? We need to change it back.
cooljeanius
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(07-22-2010, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by whitehawk

Yeah, did anyone have the Wiki backed up? We need to change it back.

Normally Wikis have history for easy reversion to previous versions.
Danthrax
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(07-22-2010, 10:48 PM)
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Chill the fuck out people holy shit

Look, this guy started e-mailing us at the press account a couple weeks ago. Schuelma and I have been discussing the situation. We've determined he doesn't have a valid claim on us for a variety of reasons.

This is the e-mail I just sent to him:

Originally Posted by me

Cleve,

Firstly, you cannot copyright a name. A name, such as "Grimoire Systems" or "Grimoire Assembly Forge," is trademarked. Only ideas or specific products are copyrighted.

Secondly, to prove a trademark violation, you must show that damages have been done to you. I did a Google search for the word "grimoire" and did not find your website, grimoiresystems.com, within the first 30 pages of the search results. I did, however, find our own website, grimoireassemblyforge.com, on the fifth page, which shows that we have more mindshare than you and that your site would cause confusion with our own, not the other way around. Furthermore, your website does not identify your company as Grimoire Systems at all — rather, you seem to identify it as "Golden Era Games," so visitors to that site would not associate the name "Grimoire Systems" with your game.

In short, people who see the word "grimoire" in the vein of computer games will not likely associate it with you and what you're doing.

Thirdly, "Grimoire Assembly Forge" is not a real company. It's what we named our development group — it's essentially a club name. We have not incorporated ourselves and none of us are getting paid. You cannot sue a group that is not formally incorporated. Furthermore, Dudebro™ II, the game we are creating, will be released for free on the Internet. It will not be sold in any physical store and we won't charge money for it. The game will not compete with yours any more than any other free, independently developed game would.

Please stop harassing us through this e-mail address and stop vandalizing our wikia page.

Thank you.


So be cool, guys, I have the situation under control. I've known about it, I've looked into it, I researched it and I've responded to it. Dudebro™ development continues!

<3 kthxbai



Originally Posted by whitehawk

Yeah, did anyone have the Wiki backed up? We need to change it back.

Yeah I just fixed it a few minutes ago.
Jocchan
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(07-22-2010, 11:06 PM)
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Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.
Danthrax
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(07-22-2010, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.

That's not the vandalization I meant. I meant Cleve deleting the entire front page of the wikia and posting that copyright violation message in large font.

I restored the version with your "outdated" message, plus my own addition pointing people to the website.
schuelma
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(07-23-2010, 12:18 AM)
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Yes, people should relax. If anyone is interested, read this overview..should put any concerns at ease.
Danthrax
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(07-23-2010, 02:26 AM)
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If you want to help:
1. Follow this FAQ: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcs6hh5g_23cgnp39cs
2. PM Danthrax your e-mail to be added to the staff list, Dropbox and the Google Waves
3. Contact your team lead to get assignments
4. Make sure you keep following the waves, this thread, and read the GDD
5. Remember that no one will PM you asking to do X or Y (we're too many), if you need assignments/feedback/direction/info/a beer/whatever just PM your lead
6. Use the IRC channel (more details below) to stay in touch with the team!!!
7. ???
8. PROFIT!



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Dudebro official website: http://www.grimoireassemblyforge.com/dudebro/
Dudebro Wiki: http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
CafePress Store: http://www.cafepress.com/dudebro2



And CHECK YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES because I or another Dudebro volunteer may have PMed you about something important!



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thank you for your attention and have a fantastic day!
Man, trouble makers... :/

Hopefully I get to contribute more stuff soon, I'm loaded with school work (programming, exams, papers).
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 07:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

Chill the fuck out people holy shit

Pretty sure most of our replies were more "haha" than "GRRRR" so this isn't needed :D

Originally Posted by Jocchan

Actually I "vandalized" the wiki some days ago because most pages had heavily outdated, or even completely wrong, information. Updating it would be kinda pointless, we have the website for that.

Many people who don't know about Gaf or the game could find it through Wiki. We need people for crossreferencing Dudebro with similar topics, imo.
Xater
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

That's not the vandalization I meant. I meant Cleve deleting the entire front page of the wikia and posting that copyright violation message in large font.

Well that's mature. :lol
Drkirby
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(07-23-2010, 08:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I guess we're being langdell'd:


http://dudebro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, lol at the Bioshock mention (the page is hosting a photoshop made by someone).

Yeah, there is only a single trademark in the entire Australian Trademark database with the word GRIMOIRE, which is for the subtitle of Final Fantasy Tactics A2.

They are lying, or forgot to actually trademark their name.

But I did find something the company made, they are credited with midi on this site, saying they created it in 1996:
http://www.faqs.org/copyright/the-am...rth-hall-solo/

Yeah, you are being langdell'd

Found this here, so they seem like the exsisted at one time at least:

Computer game graphics
Grimoire Roleplaying Systems
(Arts and Crafts industry)
January 1997 — January 2000 (3 years 1 month)
Supplied over
100 animated sprite characters to Australian client.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/monique-...ton/22/131/A35

Here is there great site from 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/200103070...-grimoire.html

Oh, and here are people in 1997 complaining about them:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....&rnum=6&pli=1#


And while I may of ended up jumping rails to a diffrent company by mistake down the line, if its the same guy, I don't think the people who write for this site care for the man. But since the oldest news, from 2004, has "Cleve left LA for Australia in 1991", I am thinking its this man.

http://rpgcodex.net/newsarchive.php?GameID=288


And this is the newest info for this game

Grimoire to be Released this Fall ( Game news )
posted by VentilatorOfDoom on Mon 05 July 2010, 20:57:15
More info on Grimoire

... and this time it's for real!

Grimoire, the most anticipated RPG for the last few decades, will most likely be shipped very soon. Vaporware developer legend Cleveland Mark Blakemore seems to think so, thus he relaunched his Golden Era Games website.
After five years of having little more than a placeholder, the Golden Era Games web site is back! Looks like we may actually be getting some games released soon so we’re going to need it!
We’re grateful to all our frequent visitors over the years who have been wondering what happened to us. We’ re back!
They're back! Will Grimoire put an end to the misery of nextgen RPG offerings and lead the RPG genre to a new golden age?
Look at these screenshots while you're pondering this question.

This newsitem was brought to you by Mortmal.
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Edit: Oh wait, its that RPGCodex mentioned above. God damn, we are getting legal threats from a guy who has been trying to make an PC RPG for 19 years. Someone should let him know his trademark expired :lol

He does have a new site though: http://grimoiresystems.com/
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Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 08:47 AM)
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Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.
Drkirby
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(07-23-2010, 08:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Internet Batman. Nice detective work Bro.

I love how I found people on usernet complaning about this guy in 1997 :lol

For some reason, I just picture the guy as an Evil version of Victor Ireland.

But it looks like I am far to late for this, since Dan already got this under control.

I find it hard to think it took this guy more then 15 years to make this. We could do it half the time!:



And he paid people over a decade ago to make the sprites.
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Jocchan
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(07-23-2010, 09:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sill4

Many people who don't know about Gaf or the game could find it through Wiki. We need people for crossreferencing Dudebro with similar topics, imo.

I was talking about the Dudebro wiki on Wikia: it had a lot of incorrect and outdated information, and updating it would have been pointless because we have the website to host that very information.
The website is also updated twice a week, so updating the wiki entirely and immediately would have made website updates themselves pointless.
Sill4
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(07-23-2010, 10:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

I was talking about the Dudebro wiki on Wikia: it had a lot of incorrect and outdated information, and updating it would have been pointless because we have the website to host that very information.
The website is also updated twice a week, so updating the wiki entirely and immediately would have made website updates themselves pointless.

Oh I forgot about that. Yea it really is just extra baggage at this point.

I didn't get shit done today due to hype and gushing over all of the new Reach info.

Did this yesterday, quick and sloppy, just like the afternoon I was conceived. It's a totally original idea and has never ever been done before in the entire history of media/sarcasm-


Back of shirt finishes the quote.
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John
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(07-23-2010, 05:15 PM)
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Dude.
V_Ben
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(07-23-2010, 05:29 PM)
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liking the poster :D

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