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Legend of Zelda Mafia |OT| A Lynch to the Past
- Thread starter Sawneeks
- Start date
Nope, other than my role blocking it doesn't seem like anything else has happened to me.
While claiming this wouldn't be believed anyway, we can assume that Ty4on hit town when he handed out the bomb. They knew that a confirmed Ty would be the most likely kill, so instead of risking passing the bomb to another town, they simply tossed it to him.
AbsolutBro
Member
Uh, like most mornings I posted and then went to make breakfast. Sorry I was hungry? I guess?
And like most left I think, I'm ordinary town.
AbsolutBro
Member
Or AM I?
I am.
okay it's not quite the same, but it was still the first thing that popped in my head
Damn this game has a lot of ordinaries.
UNVOTE
Ok, who's next?
Terra
Magnum
Can we get a complete set of ordinaries who have received no items?
AbsolutBro
Member
I mean, I thought that too, but consider we've got lost 5 so far in a twenty person game:
Doctor - Sorian
Watcher - Kawl
Lover1 - CzarTim
Lover2 - Natiko
Item Giver / Innocent Child - Ty4on
AND we know there's a Serial Killer in the mix.
Oh yeah I forgot the lovers. Still on the low side, but I guess the item giver is supposed to make up for that?
AbsolutBro
Member
Maybe? I mean, he was basically two roles in one player.
You looking for my general thoughts on the matter or do ya wanna me to RP scum POV or something?
This seems too safe a play to me. It would have no real gain in it. Why not treat the bomb as a delayed vigishot and give da bomb to someone who you thought was scum?
But how then to explain the single kill and the bomb ending up with Ty? am confuse
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Go to sleep: no posts.
The day I decide to actually sleep in: lots of posts.
Of course.
Since it's mass claim time. Ordinary.
The day I decide to actually sleep in: lots of posts.
Of course.
Since it's mass claim time. Ordinary.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Oh, I show up and everything suddenly goes quiet, I see how it is!
/s
No I was being lazy and wanted you to do the math for me 😃
I want to know if we can lynch scum or it has to be the SK today. I guess we're safe either way.
Scum wouldn't give the bomb to Ty
Town would have claimed having the bomb today
It is a mystery
Assuming scum kill. SK kill, scum kill:
3-2-2 / 4-1-2 on n5
t,t - 1-2-2 / 2-1-2
same.t - 2-2-2 / 3-1-2
t,n - 2-1-2 / -
t,sk - 2-1-2 / 3-0-2
n,t - 2-1-2 / 3-0-2
same.n - 3-1-2 / -
n,sk - 3-0-2 / -
s,n - 3-1-1 / -
s,sk - 3-1-1 / 4-0-1
The specific scum lynch into two town deaths scenario puts us into a place where the SK's vote, in the best case, will decide if the game will continue or not. I am assuming the SK can win with scum but not with town (all threats to town etc.). Thus, they should vote with scum to lynch town. If they read the scum correctly, scum and SK win. If they don't, well, more possible scenarios.
Town cannot win without killing the remaining threats in correct order I think. Scum first, SK last. I'd go with calling this a mylo, even though that ain't technically true.
3-2-2 / 4-1-2 on n5
t,t - 1-2-2 / 2-1-2
same.t - 2-2-2 / 3-1-2
t,n - 2-1-2 / -
t,sk - 2-1-2 / 3-0-2
n,t - 2-1-2 / 3-0-2
same.n - 3-1-2 / -
n,sk - 3-0-2 / -
s,n - 3-1-1 / -
s,sk - 3-1-1 / 4-0-1
The specific scum lynch into two town deaths scenario puts us into a place where the SK's vote, in the best case, will decide if the game will continue or not. I am assuming the SK can win with scum but not with town (all threats to town etc.). Thus, they should vote with scum to lynch town. If they read the scum correctly, scum and SK win. If they don't, well, more possible scenarios.
Town cannot win without killing the remaining threats in correct order I think. Scum first, SK last. I'd go with calling this a mylo, even though that ain't technically true.
Based on the NK targets we've seen, the SK probably has a lone survivor win con
I never get why people keep thinking this will save them. If it did, Blarg would be a GAFia Master.
MagnumBoy20xx
Neo Member
Alright, so there was only one kill last night, ynnek7 claims to have blocked Juan, and we're doing a mass roll claim? If I missed any other important developments, please inform me of them.
As for my role, I am an ordinary townie.
As for my role, I am an ordinary townie.
MagnumBoy20xx
Neo Member
I mentioned kyan, but my phone used its stupid autocorrect.
AbsolutBro
Member
Because unless Sawneeks neglected to send me a PM, I didn't get one?
AbsolutBro
Member
I was number 2 on his scum list, why would he give me an item?
AbsolutBro
Member
lol found this while I was looking into *Splinter and Kyan
Yeah, Ty4on would totes be passing me an item last night.
Both of those posts are from day 4, the day after he passed you an item
Also you searched Ty4on posts to look into me and Kyan?
No, you searched Ty4on's posts to find the breadcrumb that led me to you.
AbsolutBro
Member
So your argument is that he passed me an item, and then immediately thought I was scum afterwards?
AbsolutBro
Member
I did not search Ty4on's posts. I went back to the end of the last day phase, to see the discussion after my "Top 3" experiment. That post was there. I get the feeling I'm on the right track at this point though, looking into you and Kyanrute.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Care to Share? Or did I miss the post where you did?
Essentially, yes. Although I wouldn't say "immediately", his scum read on you ramped up throughout day 3.
He passed you an item, regretted it, claimed so he wouldn't have to give out any more items, then asked Ynnek to block you so you couldn't use the item he gave.
I didn't find a specific breadcrumb, but then again I didn't even look yet. From Ty's focus throughout the day it became obvious to me where his last item went.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
I must be an idiot then, because I did not get that impression at all.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Way to be town man...
AbsolutBro
Member
We will start with this post from Kyan. It's longer than I would like to quote, but I will bring the relevant parts out. I linked the post so you can see them in context though.
"While Splinter's alignment is still bit hazy, I do not really see a good reason for scum to do what he did."
is telling. *Splinter's alignment at this point isn't "still bit hazy", it's completely unknown.
It's also important to note, I asked *Splinter about this clear:
He never answered.
What really caught me eye though, and I mentioned it earlier, was this:
There is nothing at this point to clear *Splinter of being the SK, but Kyan does. Why? My guess? It's a mental slip because *Splinter is one of his scum buddies.
When I call him on it? He could have just said "whoops, my bad, you're right." But no, he doubled down. First he tried to brush it off, then off handedly dismiss it with "better targets out there".
When I pressed him on it he just got more defensive.
Remember when we did my little experiment? And I commented I needed to reread Kyan because I thought it was odd no one mentioned him? Kyan's answer:
I have mentioned Kyan all of twice until the experiment. Once in a D1 read list of "why speculate on Ty4on's PR" and then this:
But apparently, that's enough to "not be surprised it's [me] who brings him up".
And so now, during a crucial day, *Splinter comes out of nowhere with "you lied to us", when Kyan's neck is on the line. He backed Kyan's call for a mass role claim after Kyan got called out for being RBed on a night with one kill. But wants you to think he's above suspicion:
I will be afk for a bit, but I will try to be on mobile.
We start off with just a bit of "well maybe" and defense. This is to set *Splinter up as reliable to Nin, whom *Splinter had just "cleared". This clear means little if *Splinter is Scum; he knows Nin is either town or the SK (who isn't going to argue against being cleared as town). This line in particular:
"While Splinter's alignment is still bit hazy, I do not really see a good reason for scum to do what he did."
is telling. *Splinter's alignment at this point isn't "still bit hazy", it's completely unknown.
It's also important to note, I asked *Splinter about this clear:
He never answered.
What really caught me eye though, and I mentioned it earlier, was this:
There is nothing at this point to clear *Splinter of being the SK, but Kyan does. Why? My guess? It's a mental slip because *Splinter is one of his scum buddies.
When I call him on it? He could have just said "whoops, my bad, you're right." But no, he doubled down. First he tried to brush it off, then off handedly dismiss it with "better targets out there".
When I pressed him on it he just got more defensive.
Remember when we did my little experiment? And I commented I needed to reread Kyan because I thought it was odd no one mentioned him? Kyan's answer:
I have mentioned Kyan all of twice until the experiment. Once in a D1 read list of "why speculate on Ty4on's PR" and then this:
But apparently, that's enough to "not be surprised it's [me] who brings him up".
And so now, during a crucial day, *Splinter comes out of nowhere with "you lied to us", when Kyan's neck is on the line. He backed Kyan's call for a mass role claim after Kyan got called out for being RBed on a night with one kill. But wants you to think he's above suspicion:
I will be afk for a bit, but I will try to be on mobile.
Zelda Fact of the Day #12: Did you know there is a secret room in A Link to the Past called the Chris Houlihan Room? It contains 45 blue rupees and is accessible in both the SNES and GBA versions of the game. It is named that because Chris Houlihan was a contest winner in Nintendo Power to have your name included in the game! Now you know!
The Vote Tool is currently not working so I will be counting the Votes manually until it is back.
Current Vote Count:
AbsolutBro (2):
*Splinter
Kyanrute
Majority is 5
Day 5 ends in:
The Vote Tool is currently not working so I will be counting the Votes manually until it is back.
Current Vote Count:
AbsolutBro (2):
*Splinter
Kyanrute
Majority is 5
Day 5 ends in:
ok absolut chooses to fight woohoo
but zzzz
hazy ok linguistics imma not bother
then the pointless sk line that was already explained in million or so posts and that number is not an overestimation at all you can use that as an argument against me absolut no need to thank me
when i pressed me LOLOLOL good good but no
it is enough to bring you up because as you concluded, nobody besides you cared about me beyond shade throwing before the amazing scumread post of yours
ok so this post was not worth even writing i should've just shitposted instead
but zzzz
hazy ok linguistics imma not bother
then the pointless sk line that was already explained in million or so posts and that number is not an overestimation at all you can use that as an argument against me absolut no need to thank me
when i pressed me LOLOLOL good good but no
it is enough to bring you up because as you concluded, nobody besides you cared about me beyond shade throwing before the amazing scumread post of yours
ok so this post was not worth even writing i should've just shitposted instead
Kyan is a gracious Kyan, for he could've just given you a shitpost or a factual post that shows you for the scum you are but NO!
he is do both
all hail kyan gracious kyan hail kyan
This is because town needs to vote in a united front to win and I know some might not understand my shitposts. I know this because I don't understand them either so I'll entertain this.
1st Absolut goes to showcase his skill in the art of English language instead of attacking the actual point of the sentence - the fact that there is no point for scum to use a copshot on townies or themselves. I like colorful language, do forgive me if I do not use the absolutely correct term all the time. There is absolutely nothing telling about using "hazy". You are arguing semantics.
The SK part I have already explained. Old argument that never made sense.
The two mentions Absolut mentions are the mentions I am referring to when I said I was not surprised that he brought me up. Like he concluded with his grand analysis, most people were not openly considering me as scum. At best, they were content with some amounts of shade throwing. Just read the thread again if you do not believe me. I've had it easy since day two. Absolut's mentions were notable because he went farther with them than most.