The fact that a woman of her pedigree and expertise isn't a great candidate is just a sad reality of modern American politics.
LolHow could I forget the Clinton campaign starting this birther shit that went on for years.
It is surprising since it's blatantly false right wing propaganda garbage.Surprised to see someone here acknowledge that.
It wasn't Clinton or her campaign. You've been fake news'd.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/
And this is a major part of how we lost.It is surprising since it's blatantly false right wing propaganda garbage.
Clinton is a bad retail politician, but fuck off, Joe Biden, you're the last person who should talk.
Joe Biden would be nothing but a sad joke with two pathetic excuses for presidential primary campaigns if not for the fact that 8 years of being Barack Obama's foil papered over most of his more serious flaws.
Many Sanders backers are often there because of 'charisma' and 'likeability' and not because of policy or positions.
Than why didnt he run?
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It wasn't Clinton or her campaign. You've been fake news'd.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/
It wasn't Clinton or her campaign. You've been fake news'd.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/
Not sure what's the point of saying that now.
Lol
It is surprising since it's blatantly false right wing propaganda garbage.
Pretty much.I think Sanders backers would have had just as much distaste for him
That's the problem. Rust belt voters most likely didn't read up on the candidates and blindly hoped Trumps rhetoric was just bluster and that he'd grow up. "He gonna bring back da coal jobs, fox news!! Woooo, build a wall" and all that dumb shit. Not to mention the known white women that publicly stated that they wouldn't vote for a woman and just flat out voted for a misogynist that looks at them as either trophies or just things to grab and now their reproductive rights are being dissected by a group of old crusty fetus chewing Republican douche bags.Hillary wasn't a great candidate, but the reasons why were more or less out of her hands. If you take away the decades of slander and misrepresentation to look at her policies and experience, she's one of the most qualified candidates that has ever run for the presidency.
Many Sanders backers are often there because of 'charisma' and 'likeability' and not because of policy or positions.
I like how he thought she wasn't a great candidate, but decided not to run or to try backing someone he thought would of been a great/better candidate. No offense to the guy, but I still would have ran if I thought I was a great candidate compared to my colleague, even if a family emergency came up.
I don't understand why all these big named people after Hillary lost are now saying "yeah, I figured she wasn't a good candidate". We had a clear person to back against Trump with the rise in populists and he would of been better specifically for the Rust Belt states and independents.
Oh well. I just don't get why say it now, not backing anyone during the primary as if you are not half responsible for it lol.
His son died.Than why didnt he run?
Clinton is a bad retail politician, but fuck off, Joe Biden, you're the last person who should talk.
Joe Biden would be nothing but a sad joke with two pathetic excuses for presidential primary campaigns if not for the fact that 8 years of being Barack Obama's foil papered over most of his more serious flaws.
Why do people want to believe that hillary would be so irresponsible as to doubt obamas birth place?
Any ways, fuck Hilary though. Why run a seemingly reluctant misanthrope 2008 primary loser in the general? Why??
I like Biden a lot. He would have beat Trump. Oh well.
I wasn't talking about Sanders. If you are a Sanders backer that would be more okay with Biden than Hillary, then you are not about policy or positions, you are about 'likeability'.Lol. What? Sanders ran his entire campaign on policy and positions. Free public college tuition. Single-payer healthcare. Anti-TPP. Higher minimum wage. New Glass-Stegal.
Characterizing Hillary as a misanthrope is an indication of your hatred for her.Why do people want to believe that hillary would be so irresponsible as to doubt obamas birth place?
Any ways, fuck Hilary though. Why run a seemingly reluctant misanthrope 2008 primary loser in the general? Why??
I like Biden a lot. He would have beat Trump. Oh well.
The media treats it like a popularity contestAmerican voters are really childish when it comes to voting.
instead of voting on credientials and experience; they rather vote on charisma and personality
He is right, and I think he is saying this to plant the seeds for a run in 2020.
He is right, and I think he is saying this to plant the seeds for a run in 2020.
I wouldn't even base it on that. Trump was a petty vengeful fucking archaic meme tier douche bag of an asshole with no motherfucking scruples that would stoop low enough to publicly insult and tease a handicapped writer, someone with more credentials than him to run for office and still found a way to stoop lower than that. Trump got voted for by certain people just frankly because he was the dude with an (R) next to his name and put up support blinders because of it and that's not even going into how ignorant, racist, homophobic, "fuck you got mine" and whatever else you can consider the more aggressive Trump supporters are.American voters are really childish when it comes to voting.
instead of voting on credientials and experience; they rather vote on charisma and personality
Wasn't her or he campaign. Just racist white clinton supporters.
Yeah that's the problem with our election system. It rewards charisma over capability.She's too heavy on the patronizing, and simply generally unlikable, to me. He clarified and said she'd be a good president, but not a good candidate. I agree 1000%.
I wasn't talking about Sanders. If you are a Sanders backer that would be more okay with Biden than Hillary, then you are not about policy or positions, you are about 'likeability'.
As much as I like Joe, he already ran for president twice and it didn't pan out. And in a year where Hillary struggled to prove she was a progressive, Biden was to the right of Hillary.
too old, but i guess its never too old to drop another L in a primary
I like Biden but I hope not. Not to be ageist but he's just too old. Jason Kander or somebody else young needs to the nominee.
A large part of politics, beyond actual political competence, is being charismatic. Hillary was a good politician but she had almost 0 charisma.
Last election was basically a loudmouthed jock versus a bookworm, and surprise, people went for the boisterous idiot.
American voters are really childish when it comes to voting.
instead of voting on credientials and experience; they rather vote on charisma and personality
Even Rachel Maddow acknowledged that the Clinton campaign leaked that photo of Obama to the press.Wasn't her or he campaign. Just racist white clinton supporters.
The media treats it like a popularity contest
Most watch the media
If nobody covered Trump 24/7 the right wouldn't have been so obsessed with some dumb fucking idiot.