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maxcriden
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(09-13-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Edit: the games are not graphically retouched.

Originally Posted by joedick

OP, you mention updated graphics but I think these are the unaltered arcade games. They are updated compared to NES versions, but it looks like they are as they were originally released in the arcades.

My mistake, sorry all. I misunderstood the video. Thank you for the correction.

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Original OP (edited):

VS Mario Bros. first up, September 27.

VS SMB
VS Balloon Fight
VS Ice Climbers
VS Pinball
VS Clu Clu Land
VS Punch-Out!! was teased also.

are all to come, with MP functionality. It wasn't clear to me if online functionality is included. Didn't seem like it though.

Hamster was shown as the dev.

Each seem to be an individual release. No word on pricing yet.

This seems like a new take on VC.

Will update with very brief footage.
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NeOak
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(09-13-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Oh shi-
Oersted
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(09-13-2017, 11:29 PM)
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Oh shizzle
Geno Breaker
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(09-13-2017, 11:29 PM)
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This is dope. I hope M2 is doing the emulation. Nintendo isn't great with this stuff.
Hero_of_the_Day
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(09-13-2017, 11:29 PM)
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So, like, a virtual... arcade.
Hayama Akito
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VS SMB on a console is big news for me! I love that version.
Dark Ninja
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(09-13-2017, 11:30 PM)
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The arcade version of Punch-Out!! is like a completely different game.
Alpha_eX
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(09-13-2017, 11:30 PM)
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It bothers me that these will be their own game icon, rather than a single one with a collection. Weird route to go.
TheDinoman
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(09-13-2017, 11:30 PM)
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No Arcade Donkey Kong? Lame.

Cool to see Punch-Out!! Arcade though.
maxcriden
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(09-13-2017, 11:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alpha_eX

It bothers me that these will be their own game icon, rather than a single one with a collection. Weird route to go.

All the more reason to hope for folders!

Originally Posted by TheDinoman

No Arcade Donkey Kong? Lame.

Weird to exclude it for now, but surely to come at some point.

Edit: I'm wrong, see EmCee's post below.
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(09-13-2017, 11:31 PM)
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If online will buy all
Stumpokapow
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(09-13-2017, 11:32 PM)
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I assume Popeye is excluded for license reasons?
Shotgun Kiss
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(09-13-2017, 11:34 PM)
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I was annoyed that Nintendo kept pushing NES games, and I've wanted them to announce N64 and/or Gamecube games.

They actually went backwards. Christ. Why is a proper VC service beyond them?
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(09-13-2017, 11:36 PM)
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But no Donkey Kong since that's not possible! Unless they'll use the NES version for some reason.

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

I assume Popeye is excluded for license reasons?

Wouldn't count on it, no.
Geno Breaker
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(09-13-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shotgun Kiss

I was annoyed that Nintendo kept pushing NES games, and I've wanted them to announce N64 and/or Gamecube games.

They actually went backwards.
Christ. Why is a proper VC service beyond them?

Nothing wrong with the arcade versions. They have some nice twists and they've never been rereleased before.
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(09-13-2017, 11:41 PM)
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Wonder what this means, if anything for VC. I think switch is a real cool place for arcade games though (even though these are nes ports). It's too bad it missed out on things like the X-Men Arcade game, The Simpsons Arcade game, tmnt, and even Scott pilgrim last generation.
SatoAilDarko
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(09-13-2017, 11:42 PM)
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This is cool.

Hopefully though they also have a regular VC and upgrade fees for those games.
maxcriden
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(09-13-2017, 11:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by erlim

Wonder what this means, if anything for VC. I think switch is a real cool place for arcade games though (even though these are nes ports). It's too bad it missed out on things like the X-Men Arcade game, The Simpsons Arcade game, tmnt, and even Scott pilgrim last generation.

I'm personally taking it to mean this is the only VC we get till NES early 2018 as part of the online service, and then a while before anything more.
Narpas Sword0
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(09-13-2017, 11:44 PM)
Between this and Neo Geo getting its own branding I feel like VC is gone for good :(
OrbitalBeard
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(09-13-2017, 11:47 PM)
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Nintendo has never released these outside of arcades. This is awesome!
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Punch-Out! Arcaaaaaaaaade! I need it!
frankie_baby
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(09-13-2017, 11:49 PM)

Originally Posted by maxcriden

All the more reason to hope for folders!



Weird to exclude it for now, but surely to come at some point.

There's legal problems with arcade donkey kong
T-0800
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(09-13-2017, 11:49 PM)
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Release all the arcade games. All of them.
KingdomHeartsFan
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(09-13-2017, 11:50 PM)
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If this gets a physical release with all the games in one package I'll bite.
Ninja Dom
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(09-13-2017, 11:52 PM)
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You don't know how happy this makes me.

Mario Bros this month.

But where's Donkey Kong, Jr & 3??

EDIT: Forgot the Ikegami Tsushinki saga behind it.
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(09-13-2017, 11:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Geno Breaker

This is dope. I hope M2 is doing the emulation. Nintendo isn't great with this stuff.

Hamster is doing the emulation.
And all the Neo Geo games that have been releasing on Switch are also part of their Arcade Archives collection.
RionaaM
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(09-13-2017, 11:52 PM)
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Never played any of the arcade versions, this could be interesting. How different is SMB to the NES one?
joedick
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(09-13-2017, 11:52 PM)
This is such great news! Is it actually called VS. Mario Bros as it says in OP? Did they make an enhanced NES version or is it the original arcade game coming?
OrbitalBeard
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(09-13-2017, 11:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by RionaaM

Never played any of the arcade versions, this could be interesting. How different is SMB to the NES one?

Lots of little changes throughout. It's definitely worth playing if you're a fan of the original game.
woopWOOP
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(09-13-2017, 11:53 PM)
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Neat

I want Donkey Kong 3 and the full experience of being devoured by giant flies every time I die
Blues1990
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(09-13-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Surprised that Donkey Kong isn't included.
jph139
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I'm interested, depending on the price. Would be cool to play stuff I've never experienced like Punch-Out!! and so on.

The fact we'll (probably) never get Donkey Kong stings though.
Balb
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(09-13-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Can't wait for Donkey Kong arcade to finally come out. I'm sure there are some rights issues they're still trying to work out but it's gonna be amazing.
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(09-13-2017, 11:55 PM)
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I would have preferred a physical collection but still, this is great.
EmCeeGramr
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(09-13-2017, 11:55 PM)
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Regarding Donkey Kong


Nintendo has never rereleased it (outside of the inclusion in that one DK64 level) because they probably don't actually own the rights to it.


Many of Nintendo's earliest arcade games, Donkey Kong included, were programmed by an outside company named Ikegami Tsushinki when Nintendo themselves didn't really have many in-house programmers. When Nintendo reverse engineered the code to make Donkey Kong Jr. by themselves, Ikegami Tsushinki sued Nintendo and argued that they owned DK's programming. They settled out of court.
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(09-13-2017, 11:56 PM)
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As much as I liked the other announcements (Funny enough, the brother and I were talking Monday, "Wouldn't it be cool if they made Doom for Switch?"), I felt this was brilliant to join with Hamster. A new way to play these classics, and way cheaper than repro carts for the Vs. series.

Hopefully. They can get the third parties along (Vs. Castlevania, Vs. Megaman 3) and maybe the shooting games as well (Vs. Duck Hunt, etc)
Dr. Worm
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That's one way to please retro fans without stepping on the toes of the Classic Minis.
Hero_of_the_Day
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(09-13-2017, 11:57 PM)
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Have they already updated the eShop with arcade archives symbols, or have those always been there?

Ninja Dom
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Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr

Regarding Donkey Kong


Nintendo has never rereleased it (outside of the inclusion in that one DK64 level) because they probably don't actually own the rights to it.


Many of Nintendo's earliest arcade games, Donkey Kong included, were programmed by an outside company named Ikegami Tsushinki when Nintendo themselves didn't really have many in-house programmers. When Nintendo reverse engineered the code to make Donkey Kong Jr. by themselves, Ikegami Tsushinki sued Nintendo and argued that they owned DK's programming. They settled out of court.

Yup, great reminder!

Originally Posted by Hero_of_the_Day

Have they already updated the eShop with arcade archives symbols, or have those always been there?

Been there a while now.

EDIT: Didn't Rare reprogram the Donkey Kong arcade in DK64 from scratch (rather than emulate) to avoid the Ikegami Tsushinki drama?
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Jazzem
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(09-13-2017, 11:58 PM)
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This was such a surprise! I assumed they'd never bother re-releasing these, aye it's clever for them to partner with Hamster on them.

So excited for Punch-Out, always wanted to play that! Desperately wish we'd get the original Donkey Kong but aye that's likely still a legal issue :(
Lupin the Third
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Donkey Kong won't happen, same with DK Jr. and really early Nintendo cabinets because they are not owned by Nintendo. Nintendo partnered with Ikegami Tsushinki for DK1 and the like, then reverse-engineered its code to make DK Jr. They got their hinders sued for the shenanigans and ((lost the rights to DK1's arcade version and the others)).* Of course, they still own the IP and the decent NES ports.

I understand DK1 is in DK64 because Rare made basically a from-scratch recreation of the game without utilizing the original code at all, or something to that effect.

*Technically this part (()) is my speculation since it was settled out-of-court but since those things have never been re-released it's pretty much everyone's conclusion.
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OrbitalBeard
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Originally Posted by Hero_of_the_Day

Have they already updated the eShop with arcade archives symbols, or have those always been there?

They've always been there.
MrSaturn99
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This is pretty awesome. Maybe I'll nab VS. Balloon Fight.

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr

Regarding Donkey Kong


Nintendo has never rereleased it (outside of the inclusion in that one DK64 level) because they probably don't actually own the rights to it.


Many of Nintendo's earliest arcade games, Donkey Kong included, were programmed by an outside company named Ikegami Tsushinki when Nintendo themselves didn't really have many in-house programmers. When Nintendo reverse engineered the code to make Donkey Kong Jr. by themselves, Ikegami Tsushinki sued Nintendo and argued that they owned DK's programming. They settled out of court.

Never knew this, thanks.
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(09-13-2017, 11:59 PM)
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Imagine a Nintendo console where Super Mario Bros VS is playable, but the NES original is not. Crazy.
NMFried
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Really hoping this doesn't replace older Virtual Console offerings. I feel like VC is a goldmine Nintendo has yet to really tap into.
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Originally Posted by Narpas Sword0

Between this and Neo Geo getting its own branding I feel like VC is gone for good :(

Yeah, VC is dead. Buy expensive ROMboxes instead! Which I've totally done and will continue to do, lol.
Narpas Sword0
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(09-13-2017, 11:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Lupin the Third

Donkey Kong won't happen, same with DK Jr. and really early Nintendo cabinets because they are not owned by Nintendo. Nintendo partnered with Ikegami Tsushinki for DK1 and the like, then reverse-engineered its code to make DK Jr. They got their hinders sued for the shenanigans and lost the rights to DK1's arcade version and the others. Of course, they still own the IP and the decent NES ports.

I understand DK1 is in DK64 because Rare made basically a from-scratch recreation of the game without utilizing the original code at all, or something to that effect.

The NES verison of Donkey Kong is shit
Busaiku
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(09-14-2017, 12:00 AM)
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Wasn't the Donkey Kong arcade port in that Wii bundle?
Ninja Dom
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Originally Posted by Narpas Sword0

The NES verison of Donkey Kong is shit

3DS has Donkey Kong Classic (eShop) which is the NES version with the extra missing level that the NES never got. It's alright.
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Originally Posted by OrbitalBeard

Lots of little changes throughout. It's definitely worth playing if you're a fan of the original game.

Cool, I'll probably get it then.

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