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Phionoxx
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(10-07-2017, 08:29 AM)
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Dumb question potentially but I've read through the OP and last few pages and still don't know.

With Movie pass is it possible to purchase tickets in advance for reserved seating theaters? Or are you limited to having to physically be present at the box office on the day of the screening to reserve your seat and buy a ticket.

I've been spoiled by Fandango and am now used to buying reserved seats 3 to 5 days in advance so I can sit in a good spot.
katsubento
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(10-07-2017, 11:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Phionoxx

Dumb question potentially but I've read through the OP and last few pages and still don't know.

With Movie pass is it possible to purchase tickets in advance for reserved seating theaters? Or are you limited to having to physically be present at the box office on the day of the screening to reserve your seat and buy a ticket.

I've been spoiled by Fandango and am now used to buying reserved seats 3 to 5 days in advance so I can sit in a good spot.

You can't buy days ahead of time.
Zackat
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(10-07-2017, 02:36 PM)
I got my card today. It still says it is processing in the app though. Is that normal or do I need to troubleshoot?
Living the Dream
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(10-07-2017, 02:37 PM)
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Got my card today after ordering back in August. App still says Processing. Can I use it?
Darkness
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(10-07-2017, 03:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Living the Dream

Got my card today after ordering back in August. App still says Processing. Can I use it?

Originally Posted by Zackat

I got my card today. It still says it is processing in the app though. Is that normal or do I need to troubleshoot?



Mine said processing up until I actually used it the first time.
Living the Dream
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(10-07-2017, 03:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Darkness

Mine said processing up until I actually used it the first time.

Awesome, thanks!
Modest Mauser
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(10-07-2017, 03:18 PM)
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Yay got it :)
RPGCrazied
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(10-07-2017, 03:23 PM)
Even if only 2D that is a steal. Ticket prices here for 2D are close to $9. My sister would love this, she goes to the movies all the time.
Kurt Angle
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(10-07-2017, 03:56 PM)

Originally Posted by RPGCrazied

Even if only 2D that is a steal. Ticket prices here for 2D are close to $9. My sister would love this, she goes to the movies all the time.

problem is sometimes there are only 3d and imax screenings of big movies available on opening week.

for example yesterday me and my friend wanted to test out his movie pass on blade runner. we both got out of work late so weíre looking late screenings. after 10 it was imax only. all regular show times end after 7/8pm.....so we had to cancel and reschedule it for today cause we want to test out his pass (he got it this week and hasnít used it yet)

it doesnít work for ďhey, you free? blah blah is out, letís go nowĒ type of situations. cause you have to plan in advance, time it according to the theaters schedule and availability and not yours......which isnít always possible. so i think iím passing on this unless they add more options
ShadowKingpin
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(10-07-2017, 04:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dartastic

Sigh. I bought my pass like, a week ago or so. I've been reading this thread. I'm not gonna get this shit for months, am I.

This would be correct.
NimbusD
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(10-07-2017, 04:16 PM)
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For people having problems at certain theaters that 'should' work... You going to the booth or using the machines to get a ticket? Go the the machines, if the funds are added on moviepass end, there's no reason it shouldn't work. Booth people who say they can't take it are bsing
tearsintherain
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(10-07-2017, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by KyleCross

In that instance you'd be able to tell the cashier "I want this much on this card, then I'll pay the rest with this" and tell her the typical movie ticket price.

I'm not all that interested in doing this. I don't find IMAX special, just a bigger screen (and my local IMAX has some annoying imperfections on theirs) and 3D is often just gimmick nonsense. I just was curious with how the process works on how'd they know.

People are sort of making assumptions on the data that the Mastercard debit card network is giving MoviePass - simply the amount, location, date/time of transaction, and category of transaction. I don't think anyone has flat out said they know exactly what data is being sent and here it is.

I remember some guy on slickdeals bragged about how he had 2 MP cards and would use one for buying the ticket and the second for buying popcorn/soda at the theater. 2-3 weeks later he posted that his cards got banned from MP. So they can apparently track that sort of thing down, either by the amounts not matching or by the meta-data having a difference between a ticket and concession. Or the guy could have been trolling and none of it happened, its really hard to tell.

It would be great to have some debit network metadata guy tell us exactly what sort of data gets sent across. Maybe the name of the movie the person bought and the time is also sent, I sort of doubt it, but if it does then MP is quietly sitting on all that data and could ban people who buy the "wrong" ticket.
LogicStep
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(10-07-2017, 08:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Living the Dream

Got my card today after ordering back in August. App still says Processing. Can I use it?

Yes, the app will ask to activate it when you go to use it. Put in the numbers even if they don't show up and you're good to go.
BTA
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(10-07-2017, 08:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by tearsintherain

People are sort of making assumptions on the data that the Mastercard debit card network is giving MoviePass - simply the amount, location, date/time of transaction, and category of transaction. I don't think anyone has flat out said they know exactly what data is being sent and here it is.

I remember some guy on slickdeals bragged about how he had 2 MP cards and would use one for buying the ticket and the second for buying popcorn/soda at the theater. 2-3 weeks later he posted that his cards got banned from MP. So they can apparently track that sort of thing down, either by the amounts not matching or by the meta-data having a difference between a ticket and concession. Or the guy could have been trolling and none of it happened, its really hard to tell.

It would be great to have some debit network metadata guy tell us exactly what sort of data gets sent across. Maybe the name of the movie the person bought and the time is also sent, I sort of doubt it, but if it does then MP is quietly sitting on all that data and could ban people who buy the "wrong" ticket.

I mean, that situation wouldn't really need metadata or anything to be detected as fraud.

1. I'm assuming both cards had the same billing address.
2. Both cards were frequently used at the same location.
3. Both cards were frequently used at vaguely the same time.

None of this is necessarily shady. Though 1 definitely could be if it was registered to a single person's name and not just different people in the same household. Then you have...

4. One of the cards always was charged a lower amount than it was credited.

And that's what would push it over the edge. Even if you consistently switched up which card was being used for what, do that enough and you're probably getting looked at.
Zoe
(10-07-2017, 09:03 PM)
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It's definitely possible that box office transactions are flagged differently, especially when you take movie eateries into account.
JesseZao
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(10-07-2017, 09:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kurt Angle

it doesn’t work for “hey, you free? blah blah is out, let’s go now” type of situations. cause you have to plan in advance, time it according to the theaters schedule and availability and not yours......which isn’t always possible. so i think i’m passing on this unless they add more options

What would you have done otherwise? Just show up to the theater and ask for a ticket to a showing that is starting in 10 minutes expecting there to be one? Looking up showtimes is now considered a burden?

I don't understand how something so simple can be so hard for people. I hadn't been going to more than 3-4 movies a year before this thing and that is only after (advance) reserved seat tickets became a thing.

Somehow, I was able to adjust with same day ticketing because I pay less than the price of one ticket a month. It really doesn't take much time to lookup local theater showtimes and most places should have an app at this point.

Really though, if you don't like the deal now, I don't think it's reasonable to expect it to get better. The only improvement to expect would be a group/family plan.

Originally Posted by tearsintherain

People are sort of making assumptions on the data that the Mastercard debit card network is giving MoviePass - simply the amount, location, date/time of transaction, and category of transaction. I don't think anyone has flat out said they know exactly what data is being sent and here it is.

I remember some guy on slickdeals bragged about how he had 2 MP cards and would use one for buying the ticket and the second for buying popcorn/soda at the theater. 2-3 weeks later he posted that his cards got banned from MP. So they can apparently track that sort of thing down, either by the amounts not matching or by the meta-data having a difference between a ticket and concession. Or the guy could have been trolling and none of it happened, its really hard to tell.

It would be great to have some debit network metadata guy tell us exactly what sort of data gets sent across. Maybe the name of the movie the person bought and the time is also sent, I sort of doubt it, but if it does then MP is quietly sitting on all that data and could ban people who buy the "wrong" ticket.

Unless the concession price matches the ticket price, it'll be pretty obvious to them.
Sean
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(10-07-2017, 09:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by katsubento

You can't buy days ahead of time.

There might be a workaround actually, but I haven't tried it though. The AMC Theatres kiosk lets you purchase tickets like 3-4 days in advance.

So in theory you could head to the theater, pick a screening from today on MoviePass and check in, have the funds loaded to your card, and then on the kiosk just select a screening from Monday or Tuesday instead of today. Have to be sure the prices match up though etc..
monchi-kun
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(10-07-2017, 10:14 PM)
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HMNY stock was around $6 a few weeks ago, now itís trading at $15. Whatever this MoviePass is itís working.
KyleCross
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(10-07-2017, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sean

There might be a workaround actually, but I haven't tried it though. The AMC Theatres kiosk lets you purchase tickets like 3-4 days in advance.

So in theory you could head to the theater, pick a screening from today on MoviePass and check in, have the funds loaded to your card, and then on the kiosk just select a screening from Monday or Tuesday instead of today. Have to be sure the prices match up though etc..

Doesn't this cross into the whole "Not buying what you should be buying" territory we're talking about? I really wish we knew more.
Kimawolf
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(10-07-2017, 10:18 PM)
Blade runner 2049 imax showing as available!
robotrock
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(10-07-2017, 10:19 PM)
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using moviepass to see blade runner everyday from now on. I'm going to save this movie.
CatPee
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(10-07-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by katsubento

You can't buy days ahead of time.

I experimented with my local theater while I was at work nearby. It is possible to load funds on the card by checking in to a movie and loading funds on the card, then pre-purchase tickets for a future showing. It's also possible to buy yet another ticket for the same future showing if you wait for the next day and check in once again. I was even able to buy the tickets via my theater's phone app, so I never even set foot in the theater proper. I was able to use one card to get both myself and my girlfriend tickets to see IT while she was waiting on her card.

It's a system that works well and ensures compatibility at a lot of locations, but it's pretty exploitable. I'm anticipating that once the new registration shitstorm dies down, they'll get on implementing more restrictions.
bender
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(10-07-2017, 10:27 PM)
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Going to try and see IT today using Moviepass.
Sean
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(10-07-2017, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by KyleCross

Doesn't this cross into the whole "Not buying what you should be buying" territory we're talking about? I really wish we knew more.

Itís s grey area imo. Youíd be buying a ticket for the same movie and same price, just going on a different day. I guess itís technically against the TOS but seems harmless tbh. I donít think thereís any way they could even tell.
JesseZao
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(10-07-2017, 11:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sean

Itís s grey area imo. Youíd be buying a ticket for the same movie and same price, just going on a different day. I guess itís technically against the TOS but seems harmless tbh. I donít think thereís any way they could even tell.

Location tracking would be the downfall there. They used to have you take pictures of the tickets you bought. I think they removed that before the price drop. I could see them tightening up the loopholes in a few months, but I feel like all they care about at this point is explosive growth.
Big Blue
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(10-07-2017, 11:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kurt Angle

problem is sometimes there are only 3d and imax screenings of big movies available on opening week.

for example yesterday me and my friend wanted to test out his movie pass on blade runner. we both got out of work late so weíre looking late screenings. after 10 it was imax only. all regular show times end after 7/8pm.....so we had to cancel and reschedule it for today cause we want to test out his pass (he got it this week and hasnít used it yet)

it doesnít work for ďhey, you free? blah blah is out, letís go nowĒ type of situations. cause you have to plan in advance, time it according to the theaters schedule and availability and not yours......which isnít always possible. so i think iím passing on this unless they add more options

I mean you're just being plain lazy. Period.
Kimawolf
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(10-07-2017, 11:38 PM)
Would people pay a higher monthly premium for imax theatres included? Like 14.99 a month or 19.99?
Roberto Duran
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(10-07-2017, 11:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kimawolf

Would people pay a higher monthly premium for imax theatres included? Like 14.99 a month of 19.99?

Yes. I paid $20 today for IMAX to watch Blade Runner.
fade_
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(10-07-2017, 11:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Darkness

Mine said processing up until I actually used it the first time.

Probably because the countdown to charge for the 2nd month doesnt start until you actually have the card?
brianjones
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(10-08-2017, 01:04 AM)
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finally got my card today!!

ordered 8/29
Mortemis
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(10-08-2017, 02:24 AM)
Finally got my card, just in time for some blade runner. :)
Acrylic7
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(10-08-2017, 02:29 AM)
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still no card :p
RastaMentality
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(10-08-2017, 02:43 AM)
i wonder how long itíll take to be able to see star wars with moviepass in big cities since you canít get advance tickets. i guess you could go in the morning before a night screening and get a ticket.
Jailer of Hope
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(10-08-2017, 02:49 AM)
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Used this for the first time to watch Blade Runner and it worked great. I used a ticket kiosk in the theater lobby too.
TAJ
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(10-08-2017, 03:11 AM)
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There are still movies I want to see but I'm reluctant to go to the theater. I think that Blade Runner 2049 traumatized me.
Oni Jazar
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(10-08-2017, 03:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by RastaMentality

i wonder how long itíll take to be able to see star wars with moviepass in big cities since you canít get advance tickets. i guess you could go in the morning before a night screening and get a ticket.

Popular movies usually are on multiple screens and have showtimes like every half hour. The last few times I saw big movies on opening weekend it wasn't even full.
keenerz
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(10-08-2017, 03:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oni Jazar

Popular movies usually are on multiple screens and have showtimes like every half hour. The last few times I saw big movies on opening weekend it wasn't even full.

Depends on where you live, in SF the theaters are all always packed full on opening weekend, sometimes even second weekend too. Just gotta get lucky.
ShadowKingpin
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(10-08-2017, 03:48 AM)
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Has anyone used their pass on 2D IMAX? Wanting to try it on Blade Runner tomorrow.
fr0st
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(10-08-2017, 04:16 AM)
Just signed up.

How long does it usually take for the card to arrive since it says 2-3 weeks
Sean
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(10-08-2017, 04:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by JesseZao

Location tracking would be the downfall there. They used to have you take pictures of the tickets you bought. I think they removed that before the price drop. I could see them tightening up the loopholes in a few months, but I feel like all they care about at this point is explosive growth.

How would location tracking be the downfall? MoviePass knows the GPS location and time when you check-in on their app, but that's all. After you perform the transaction in their app, they're completely blind. It's impossible for them to know which movie and showtime you selected on the kiosk at the theater.

The only way they can sorta figure things out is if there's a price discrepancy. But if you check in to Blade Runner on a Sunday for $14.50 but then use the kiosk to buy a ticket for Blade Runner on Monday or Tuesday for the same $14.50 price instead, it will look completely normal on their end.

Requiring photos of ticket stubs like they did before is the only way they can sort of clamp down on this loophole, but with the massive user base they have now (probably close to a million subscribers?) that seems impractical to police. They can't even reply to customer support emails, so I doubt they'd be able to inspect the authenticity of millions of ticket stubs.
katsubento
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(10-08-2017, 05:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by fr0st

Just signed up.

How long does it usually take for the card to arrive since it says 2-3 weeks

You'd be pretty lucky to get it in that time, unless things have changed.
PHOENIXZERO
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(10-08-2017, 05:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by fr0st

Just signed up.

How long does it usually take for the card to arrive since it says 2-3 weeks

It's going to be 30 days for me on Monday and there's people who subscribed in August that still haven't received their card. You'd be lucky to actually receive it in two to three weeks.
Compbros
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(10-08-2017, 05:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by fr0st

Just signed up.

How long does it usually take for the card to arrive since it says 2-3 weeks


I ordered on the 18th of September, mine came today.
Beer Monkey
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(10-08-2017, 06:12 AM)
I used the MP to see Blade Runner 2049 in Atmos last night. Atmos is not typically an upcharge, so keep your eye out!
The Illiterati
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(10-08-2017, 06:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Big Blue

I mean you're just being plain lazy. Period.

Is there a version of the pass that will see the movie for me and formulate my opinion on it based on metacritic average? Thanks.
Fast Forward
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(10-08-2017, 06:38 AM)

Originally Posted by fr0st

Just signed up.

How long does it usually take for the card to arrive since it says 2-3 weeks

In my case, it was about that: 2-3 weeks.

I can ONLY speak for myself.
lifeexpectancy
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(10-08-2017, 06:41 AM)
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Got my card a few weeks ago. Have used it twice already. When I check in for a movie at my local theater, it seems as if it puts $11 on the card give or take.

Two tickets is only like $14 or so.

So I can see a movie with my wife for like 3 bucks and change. Every day if I please. Once a week is enough though as we are picky with movies. Still, this baby paid for itself on the first movie we went to, so even ONE movie a month will still make it worthwhile.
trs1080
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(10-09-2017, 06:29 AM)
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I used this to see IT at a Cinemark and Blade Runner at an AMC, worked perfectly. I did sign up for AMC Premier and the place I went to only had regular and large sizes, and I got the free upgrade. That's way too much fucking popcorn!!
KyleCross
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(10-09-2017, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShadowKingpin

Has anyone used their pass on 2D IMAX? Wanting to try it on Blade Runner tomorrow.

I just did because for whatever reason the time the app showed for normal 2D wasn't right with the next showing being over an hour from then, but the IMAX was in 10 minutes so I said "Screw it." I had to pay $3.10.

ALWAYS cross check the app times with the theatres times before going everyone.
Luke_Wal
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(10-10-2017, 02:54 AM)
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I noticed when I saw Kingsman the other day that the self serve kiosk at my theater (a Cinemark) allowed you to buy pre-sale tickets for Thor Ragnarok. Is there anything to stop me from going onto the app, saying Iím seeing Blade Runner, and using that money to pre-buy a Thor ticket?

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